Alky Control Or E85?
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vacuum 6
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Oh now we are talking about the "super fast guys". Maybe you need to review post #1. Here I'll make it easy for you.
Anyway you have a innovative design however until you start selling kits at a good $$$$...alky is easy and proven period!
What "kit" are you looking for? Just call up Eric (TurboTweak) and buy a chip. No kit necessary until your pushing the car into the 10's.
blackmonte
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BRAD_PADGETT
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REMEMBER!
The world moves on OIL which makes gasoline, diesel and kerosene.
E85 is made by the GOVERNMENT. No Govt. payments-No E85.
Even Ford, GM and Chrysler quit making cars that use E85.
Availability of E85 is only going to get harder because nobody is going to use it and nobody is stupid enough to put in the equipment to pump it.
I will take the time to tune with gasoline and meth. rather than screw around looking for an E85 station all the time. My 2 cents. Brad
The world moves on OIL which makes gasoline, diesel and kerosene.
E85 is made by the GOVERNMENT. No Govt. payments-No E85.
Even Ford, GM and Chrysler quit making cars that use E85.
Availability of E85 is only going to get harder because nobody is going to use it and nobody is stupid enough to put in the equipment to pump it.
I will take the time to tune with gasoline and meth. rather than screw around looking for an E85 station all the time. My 2 cents. Brad
They quite making E85 cars????
What about all of these from every manufacturer???
E85 Vehicles
I must be really far out of the loop?
Fact is more and more and more E85 gas stations are popping up. Go look up the E85 locator.
The above post is exactly why there is so much false information about E85 on the net.
What about all of these from every manufacturer???
E85 Vehicles
I must be really far out of the loop?
Fact is more and more and more E85 gas stations are popping up. Go look up the E85 locator.
The above post is exactly why there is so much false information about E85 on the net.
I saw your mommy kissing santa claus!:biggrin:
I just did this and found 36 places within 200 miles of my home. Not to bad but I hope it gets better.:smile:
I'm actually suprised there were that many in Texas to be honest but thats not bad at all!!!
Like Grumpy said earlier, at this point in time it's more of a Midwest fuel. BUT....It is spreading quickly. My mom lives in AZ and can find it at two stations on one block in her town.
turboc87gn
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The 80s are high z..Erics site says mids tens or even faster is possible with the 80s has anyone had any experience with them? I got those and the matching chip from turbotweak i cant use them yet cause i have to buy a gas tank and install my double pumper and hotwire...
pontiac69fb
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1. Yes you have to refuel with e-85. However you also have to refill alky as well as 93.
2. The e-85 will provide a cooler charge so it will provide more power all across the powerband.
3. Completely false majority of cars that I have seen from big block, small bock, to turbo imports make the same if not more power on $2 dollar a gallon e-85 than $7-$15 dollar a gallon 110-116 octane race fuel. And 30psi on the street is not needed well that's your opinion, I for one wouldn't mind being set on kill mode on the street.
4. Yes as a general I agree one should do thorough research before changing any component on their car.
5. How so when you can find E-85 for $2.00 a gallon and I would venture a guess that 93 is hovering around $3 a gallon and also don't forget to factor in the alky cost. So the extra cost of $1.50 to $2 per gallon for alky and 93 would come into play in comparing the mpg loss with e-85. In summary this answer is it depends on how much mpg you lose by using e-85.
6. Please don't confuse e-85 with race fuel. E-85 is readily available at most pumps in my area.
7. I'm sure people said the same thing when people first heard about the alky injection kits. Why should I run alky I've yet to see a fast alky car all the fastest cars I've seen are running av gas.
8. 100% false e-85 is a very clean fuel, hence why it is more environmentally friendly. I have seen the heads and intake ports of many imports who have ran e-85 and they looked so clean you could practically eat off of them.
It doesn't really matter to me if people want to run e-85 or not, to each his own. But please don't spread ignorance and misconceptions.
GNVYUS 1
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Not sure how I missed this thread but Alky and E85 are the best things to come down the pipe for FI cars over the last 5 years. They're like Pizza and Beer, you need both at the party.
Why choose when you can use both and go beyond most racegas fuels at a fraction of the cost?
Yes, it's not easy or maintance free. This type of setup is not on the KISS album.:biggrin:
EX, I just installed a new fuel pump and now the alky motor is wussing out on me. :frown:
BEATAV8 is a great example of how an intercooler, E85 and alky will go as far as you probably have the nuts to push a 109 (except for Surej who's like 30psi on pump and alky). Need more, go Rockett Brand E85 at 112 octane (117 octane equivalent) and see how far you can bury the needle on the 30psi gauge.
I used to be 93, FMIC and single alky with 23 degrees = 22psi (23psi after preturbo)
Now it's E85, no FMIC, twin alky, preturbo and 25 degrees = 25psi
(I had it up to 28psi but in 3rd it got a bit of knock and my wallet was yelling up through my ass to shut it down)
IMO, the debate will eventually be about if the intercooler is necessary for street cars with the Alky/E85 combo. My CAS V2 paid for my E85 conversion.
Why choose when you can use both and go beyond most racegas fuels at a fraction of the cost?
Yes, it's not easy or maintance free. This type of setup is not on the KISS album.:biggrin:
EX, I just installed a new fuel pump and now the alky motor is wussing out on me. :frown:
BEATAV8 is a great example of how an intercooler, E85 and alky will go as far as you probably have the nuts to push a 109 (except for Surej who's like 30psi on pump and alky
). Need more, go Rockett Brand E85 at 112 octane (117 octane equivalent) and see how far you can bury the needle on the 30psi gauge.I used to be 93, FMIC and single alky with 23 degrees = 22psi (23psi after preturbo)
Now it's E85, no FMIC, twin alky, preturbo and 25 degrees = 25psi
(I had it up to 28psi but in 3rd it got a bit of knock and my wallet was yelling up through my ass to shut it down
)IMO, the debate will eventually be about if the intercooler is necessary for street cars with the Alky/E85 combo. My CAS V2 paid for my E85 conversion.
The fuel injector is located above the intake runner. Its about 3-4 inches from the valve. Thats not a lot of time to perform "any" cooling.
Most Methanol race cars either use carbs or the EFI ones also mount injectors way up stream for the cooling.
This is the advantage blow-through's have over efi is the cooling.
That old ATR 7th injector may be a neat way to increase cooling.
ME.. no E85 stations for many many miles. Even if I had access to it, doubt I would use it. The current success of meth systems has gone up many fold over the past 10+ years.
Most Methanol race cars either use carbs or the EFI ones also mount injectors way up stream for the cooling.
This is the advantage blow-through's have over efi is the cooling.
That old ATR 7th injector may be a neat way to increase cooling.
ME.. no E85 stations for many many miles. Even if I had access to it, doubt I would use it. The current success of meth systems has gone up many fold over the past 10+ years.
Doesnt bother me. I'm not against E-85, race gas, xylene, etc.. Everybody needs to make their beds and lie in them.
Its just a decision a person makes related to the potential they want from a particular set of situations to affect their circumstance.
jasjamz
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Julio, you can say it till you are blue in the face. They will never learn until they try it. The alky results and test have many threads on here. There is an E-85 section also. I don't see the need to continue this debate.
You guys will not get the same results someone else has unless you buy their car turn key! Now, if you mix two fuels and have good results that you are happy with good for you. If you want to use one fuel and tune for that have at it.
Oh and Dr. Boost. I'm mixing E-85 110 and alky. Be ready chump!
You guys will not get the same results someone else has unless you buy their car turn key! Now, if you mix two fuels and have good results that you are happy with good for you. If you want to use one fuel and tune for that have at it.
Oh and Dr. Boost. I'm mixing E-85 110 and alky. Be ready chump!
I run alky on mt TTA, and E-85 on my supra. i like the E85 better, however my car is fitted with a flex fuel sensor and a bunch of other gadgets so i can just drive the car fill up whatever fuel i want and the ecm does the rest. i even have a gauge that displays exactly how much ethanol is in the tank! that being said E-85 with the addons is much better IMO, yea you use more fuel and need a bigger fuel system but at 2.05 a gallon you cant go wrong!
