oil additives? i'm not convinced.

i will give you a simple logical response to this question--------to answer why you should or should not add any zddp to your older cars oil is simple--------if you are using oil that is rated and designated for use in new cars the answer is an ablolute yes if you really want to protect it--------modern oil is specifically formulated for newer engines that have been designed from the ground up to use oil with less zddp--------your engine was designed by engineers that knew that the level of zddp in the oil you would be buying would be the same as it had been since the early 50's---------they could not have envisioned the large scale reductions that were the result of tighter emission controls--------if you are spending the extra money to buy specialized oils that are formulated for older engines with extra zddp there is no need to add the extra zddp as long as the amount is actually adequate and you can trust the manufacturer---------i have been accused of creating a scare for the sake of profit by marketing ZddPlus--------nothing could be further from the truth-------fact is that i first sourced large quatities of zddp for my personal fleet of TR's after doing serious research into the issue-------it was later at the suggestion of others that i go to the bother of marketing it as an additive for others-----------i could see how someone might be led to believe i made this up but it would be hard to believe that all the oil companies followed suit---------since most of the nascar and other racing teams either use Joe Gibbs or Valvoline racing oil with extra zddp or add zddp in the form of ZDDPlus it is a far reach to believe these companies jumped on an empty bandwagon--------the facts are, that used in proper amounts, ie about 1800-2000 there are no negative side effects from using zddp in oil----------it does not clog orifices, gum valves, foul spark plugs or ruin O2 sensors-------i can create buildup on ring lands if used in excessive amounts IF the engine has excessive blowby but if thats the case you need a rebuild anyway---------it does reduce catylic convertor life--------- thats why oil companies are contuining to reduce the zddp---------for a while it was considered wise to use diesel formulated oils since they usually contained higher amounts of zddp-------aside from the fact that they also had other additives that made them less than perfect for high performance gasoline engines even the newer formulations of diesel oil have much lower amounts of zddp--------and this fall when the newer GF-5 SN passenger car oils come out the protection for older cars will be reduced even more--------if you think that the same govt that brought you the "cash for clunkers" program really gives a darn about your 80's turbo regal i suggest you think again--------is it different than any other product???---------there is no mystery------its not a new invention-------its been around for many decades--------it is not a new miracle additive like is sold on tv-------opinions????--------whats to need---------how about some common sense???-------look at the facts instead of some ex racer on TV hawking some additive by running his car around the desert without oil because he used some miracle additive---------the auto parts stores are full of miracle additives that do little to nothing yet people by them by the millions--------none of these miracle additives have ever been important enough for any company to actually consider using them in oil formulations or for car companies to require their use for warranty reasons ----------humans are so gullible and illogical----------the lottery proves it everyday-----------read the tech papers on the ZddPlus website------those are not sales brochures but honest technical papers written by dedicated engineers that are also old car lovers..................RC

Good stuff Mr. Clark!!
 
Anyone wondering if they need an oil additive for our older engines just remember that "Cash for Clunkers" was just the beginning, what cars it failed to remove from the roads, the fuel and oils we are left with to use today will complete the mission of "Forcing" everyone to purchase a newer car/truck, if you haven't noticed our governments ability to spend "Your" money whether you wanted to or not, think very hard, when have you ever seen a successfull "Savings Program" run by our government???
They have zero interest in protecting anything from yesterday, buy new, buy today, then buy it again another day, Keep greasing the wheels of government taxation, it's been working for them for decades.

Kevin.
 
Blackstone Article Analysis

ZDDWhat? Reply

We read the Blackstone Labs November 2010 newsletter article titled “ZDDWhat?” with some interest, given the amount of research we have done at ZPlus on the subject, as well as our interaction with Blackstone Labs in the past. Unfortunately, Mr. Stark has a basic assumption that the lubrication requirement for every engine is the same. In addition there are flaws in some of his statements. Although we have used Blackstone Labs in the past for inexpensive used oil analysis, we are not aware of an engineering division in that company which performs lubrication and materials research.

We analyzed Mr. Stark’s article, and have the following comments to make on the various points:


1) Ryan Stark: “This first part of the problem seems to stem from an EPA mandate that all oil companies either reduce or eliminate ZDDP from their oils. While I’m sure the EPA mandates a lot of things, if they are telling the oil companies to get rid of this additive in their oils, the oil companies don’t appear to be listening”.

ZPlus: This is a common misconception of people who have not researched the history of ZDDP use in PCEO (Passenger Car Engine Oil). The fact is that the EPA has not mandated any ZDDP reduction specifically in any regulations which have been delivered to the automotive industry. What they HAVE done is to mandate the service life of pollution control systems on vehicles, and catalytic converter service life can potentially be shortened by the use of oil with high levels of ZDDP. In response, automotive engine manufacturers have worked with oil companies through the API (American Petroleum Institute) and ILSAC (International Lubricant Standardization and Approval Committee) organizations to reformulate oils with lower ZDDP levels, thereby increasing catalytic converter service life. In order to utilize this oil with lower ZDDP levels, one main remediation has been to redesign the engines using roller cam followers to help eliminate the flat tappet wear issue. The flat tappet lifter has become as rare in a modern car as a carburetor. The oil industry, in order to keep the proven anti-wear characteristics of ZDDP in the oil formulation, have also responded with a less volatile formulation of ZDDP which liberates less free phosphorus during it’s action.


2) Ryan Stark: “Is a lack of ZDDP really a problem for flat-tappet engines? My first inclination would be to say no, and that’s because 99% of all piston aircraft engines don’t use that additive in their oil. Most aircraft engines are air-cooled, so they tend to run hot and due to this, they require the use of ashless oil. That simply means that when the oil burns, it must burn completely and not leave any ash behind. Aircraft engines are mostly flat-tappet engines and they seem to get along just fine without ZDDP”.

ZPlus: The need for ZDDP in flat tappet engines is a complex function depending on valve-spring pressure, rocker ratio and service rpm range. The relationship is easy to understand once the factors are determined. Lubricants operate by forming a film which separates the load bearing interface. Depending on the relative speed of these surfaces to each other and the load on them, they can have a full oil film separation or one where the asperities (peaks) on each surface interact through the oil film, which is called boundary lubrication.

The function of a valve spring in a non-desmodromic valve system is to return the valve to its closed position when the cam follower is on the closing half of the valve cycle. The spring rate chosen is determined by the mass of the valve train which it is controlling and the service RPM range. The higher the valve train mass or RPM range, the higher the spring rate needed to ensure adequate valve control. Airplane engines are a special case much like stationary generator engines, where the RPMs do not cyclically increase at a 3:1 or 4:1 ratio or more between shifts frequently as do automotive engines. They are gradually brought up from idle to a relatively low RPM of 2500 RPM or so. Lower RPM engines like airplane or truck diesel engines have much lower valve spring rates than do higher revving street or performance engines. This means that the corresponding requirement for ZDDP is much lower for them.

There is much excellent research which shows the relationship between ZDDP and these other factors which is readily available. Here is a short list of engineering white papers documenting ZDDP research at major laboratories:
“Popular Mechanisms for the Functionality of Lubricant Additives (1)”
“Cam and Lifter Wear as Affected by Engine Oil ZDP Concentration and Type (2)“
“The History and Mechanisms of ZDDP (3)”
“Friction Behavior of ZDDP Films in the Mixed, Boundary-EHD Regime (4)”
Even a paper: “How Much ZDP is Enough? (5)” oft quoted by ZDDP and cam wear skeptics, shows clearly the efficacy of ZDDP, although the minimum amount needed is disputed.

This research and documentation is conducted by researchers with far more experience with engine lubrication design than either Blackstone Labs or ZPlus, and conclusively shows the historic performance of ZDDP in flat tappet engine design. Studying these papers and other research as we have done here at ZPlus also shows the specific ZDDP requirement to be modulated by engine design and usage parameters. For instance, a high-performance engine with 400 pound seat pressure valve springs may have been designed to operate up to 6000 RPM. If this engine’s RPM range is limited to 3000 RPM, it can achieve the same valve performance with 100 pound valve springs, because the maximum force needed to control the valve train decreases by the square of the velocity change. In this example, the cam/lifter lubrication regime may indeed change from boundary to full hydrodynamic. In a hydrodynamic regime, ZDDP would not enter the equation, since it is only activated in boundary lubrication regimes. To make an undelimited statement such as he does, Mr. Stark shows a lack of understanding of lubrication as it applies to the cam/lifter interface. The use of ZDDP is hardly spurious; it is backed up by 70 years of real-world automotive industry experience with engine lubrication.


3) Ryan Stark: “The magazine Popular Mechanics recently did an article on this and they showed a picture of a camshaft with one lobe worn down to nothing. I have my doubts about this because if there really was a problem with the oil, wouldn’t it affect all of the camshaft lobes and not just one? I don’t pretend to know all there is to know about camshaft design and surface hardness, but I know enough to reason that all of the lobes and tappets are lubricated by oil, and if the oil was indeed substandard, then wouldn’t it affect all of the lobes the same way?”

ZPlus: Although we have no reason to doubt his ability to process oil tests, based on the July 2010 newsletter, it seems as if Mr. Stark has little overall experience rebuilding engines or analyzing cam failures. There are many reasons why wear rates of different cam lobes on a cam would be different, and any mechanic who has actually used a dial indicator to measure lift on a cam will tell you that just about EVERY used cam shows differing amounts of wear on different lobes on a cam. This is caused by both differing wear mechanisms and differing lifter foot pressures. The lifter centerline is offset from the cam lobe centerline, and the cam lobe is tapered along the cam axis to induce spin, which greatly reduces wear. If you watch the lifters in an engine as it runs, you will notice that they often spin at differing rates, due to cam-to-lifter alignment factors. These same factors that cause differing rates of lifter spin also can affect lifter foot and cam lobe wear. The factors affecting the wear mechanisms include: lifter bore alignment variation from one lifter position to another (the #3 exhaust lifter bore position error in the GM 109 block 6-cylinder API cam test engine is a good example, and a reason it was chosen for this test), the position of each lobe in relationship to windows in the block through which the lubricant splash from the crank enters, and hardness differences between lobes. The factors affecting the lifter foot pressure include actual spring rate differences, spring height differences and valve seat height differences. The net effect of different wear mechanisms and lifter foot pressures can cause a differential wear rate between the cam lobes as great as 10-15%.

Cam lobes are case hardened to a depth between 100uM (0.004”) and 500uM (0.020”). Wear on this hardened surface is usually very gradual and although maximum lift slowly decreases, the wear is largely compensated for by hydraulic lifters. However, once the wear on the most worn lobe breaks through the case hardening, further wear on this lobe alone is extremely rapid. This means that when a person notices a cam induced engine problem, this catastrophically worn lobe will likely be far more worn than the next most worn one, even though they may have been wearing at only 10% different rate initially. An uneducated observer could possibly interpret this as only one lobe being worn. Examination of these cams as we have done here using dial indicators shows that one cam lobe may be catastrophically worn, but inevitably the others are worn as well. How many lobes look catastrophically worn is often merely an indication of how soon the cam was removed from service after a problem was noticed.


4) Ryan Stark: “Since this is my experiment, I decided to use my own engine at a guinea pig. Back in 2004 I rebuilt the GM 350 engine in my 1984 Chevy ¾ ton pick-up truck. The rebuilding process didn’t quite go as planned (see our July 2010 newsletter) but the engine has been running well since then and since it has flat tappets, I thought it would be a good engine to test”.

ZPlus: In choosing a low-performance truck engine which was fully broken-in, and which is mainly used at low RPMs (like the aircraft engines he compares it to), Mr. Stark chose an engine with potentially minimal ZDDP requirements. Merely having flat tappets does not indicate anything specific regarding ZDDP requirements. It is entirely possible that a broken in low-performance engine driven at low RPMs like Mr. Stark’s could survive being operated with low or no ZDDP levels.

The asperities (peaks of a surface finish) are tallest when an engine is newly built, and they have not been worn down. This means that there is the most metal-to-metal contact on initial start-up. Once the engine is broken in, the oil film thickness can be quite thin and yet still eliminate metal-to-metal contact in many engine systems. The cam and lifter interface is the one boundary lubrication system in an engine which is most susceptible to damage due to metal-to-metal contact. As previously discussed, medium to high-performance engines or engines which frequent higher RPMs regularly place enough pressure on the cam to lifter oil film to allow the two surfaces to enter a boundary lubrication condition. This is when the need for ZDDP comes into play. As you increase spring pressure or RPMs, the amount of ZDDP in the oil needs to increase to raise the rate of antiwear film growth to match the wear rate.


Conclusion: The bottom line analysis of Mr. Stark’s article is that it contains conclusions based on a single data point. The only valid conclusion he can make is that his particular engine, once broken in, does not stress out the cam to lifter oil film enough to need the antiwear protection of ZDDP under his particular driving conditions when using one type exotic aeronautic oil. There is little about his experiment that translates to widespread automobile engine conditions, let alone high-performance applications. There are 70 years of engine manufacturers specifying oil with ZDDP as an anti-wear agent which argue that many automotive engines do need ZDDP to mitigate excessive cam wear. If Mr. Stark had researched the subject more fully before designing his experiment, he would, as others have, gotten entirely different data and conclusions. Following the Scientific Method he espouses, reputable research is always peer reviewed, not just retested. Peer review in this case would consist of petroleum and automotive industry testing laboratories performing a set of carefully designed and orchestrated tests on cams and lifters of varying geometries and with varying ZDDP concentrations. Then an analysis would be designed to extract the ZDDP specific information from the wealth of data which would be generated. Fortunately for us, this has already happened, and is documented in many papers which attest to the efficacy of ZDDP at reducing cam to lifter wear in IC engines. I hope that Mr. Stark will read these if he is truly interested in the subject.

For precise, traceable testing, we as well as most other oil industry companies use one of the accredited industrial laboratories like SWRI (South West Research Institute). SWRI’s Automotive Engineering Division (the Fuels and Lubricants Research Division and the Engine, Emissions and Vehicle Research Division) is certified to ISO 9001:2008 "Quality Management Systems - Requirements," accredited to ISO/IEC 17025:2005 "General Requirements for the Competence of Testing and Calibration Laboratories" and certified to ISO 14001:2004 “Environmental Management Systems.” The Fuels and Lubricants Research Division has also achieved Ford Tier I status for providing engineering services. This tier of laboratory performs basic research on oil formulations for the API (American Petroleum Institute), as well as engine lubrication design for the major automotive manufacturers. SWRI has a history of having been the test bed for the development of many of the API test sequences by which all API-certified oil must be tested. Of course, you would expect a lot when you pay upwards of $100-$1000 per test, and in the years we have used SWRI we have not been disappointed yet. Much research into the use of ZDDP in API-approved engine oils has been conducted at SWRI. API GF-3 licensing (in place when flat-tappet cams were still in common use) requires a cam wear test ASTM Sequence VE, but this test is waived if the oil being tested contains at least 0.08% (800ppm) of phosphorus in the form of ZDDP (6). This shows how much confidence the API has in the anti-wear performance of ZDDP.

Blackstone Labs is a consumer-oriented oil analysis laboratory, and as such has experience using a PCS (Plasma Coupled Spectrometer) unit which was designed to analyze engine oil. Their laboratory claims to follow standard ASTM test methodology for oils; however they do not claim to be industry certified for oil formulation, lubrication system design nor automotive engine design as are the major laboratories. Their claimed expertise is limited to the testing and analysis of consumer engine fluids. We have used Blackstone labs in the past for testing of used oil and concentrates, and they have performed well when testing the oil. They were initially unable to accurately test concentrates such as our ZDDPlus™ without our guidance to accurately perform dilutions, but then, they do not claim to have expertise in this area. Our experience with them does indicate to us that they are less of a research laboratory than they are a competent used oil testing shop.

It is instructive that research performed at SWRI helped establish the parameters by which ZDDP is formulated into modern oils, yet Mr. Stark at Blackstone Labs would conclude there is no need for it based on a home-spun experiment with no controls. We would think long and hard before seriously considering the off-the-cuff comments of Mr. Stark over the volumes of research performed by the petroleum and automotive industry.



References:
1 Nicholas J. Mosey, Tom K. Woo, Department of Chemistry, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada, N6A 5B7 and Martin H. Müser, Department of Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada, N6A 5B7, “Popular Mechanisms for the Functionality of Lubricant Additives,” (2005)
2 Loren G. Pless, and John J. Rodgers, “Cam and Lifter Wear as Affected by Engine Oil ZDP Concentration and Type,” SAE pub 770087 (1977)
3 Spikes, H., Tribology Section, Department of Mechanical Engineering, Imperial College, London SW7 2AZ, UK, “The History and Mechanisms of ZDDP”, Tribology Letters, Vol. 17, No. 3, (October 2004)
4 Giuseppi Tripaldi, Antonio Vettor Enincherchi SpA, and Hugh Spikes, Imperial College of Science, “Friction Behavior of ZDDP Films in the Mixed, Boundary-EHD Regime” ISSN 0148-7191, (1996)
5 Robert M. Olree and Michael L. McMillan, “How Much ZDP is Enough?,” SAE pub 2004-01-2986, (2004)
6 API Publishing Services, 1220 L Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20005, “Engine Oil Licensing and Certification System,” API 1509, (2007)
 
For years I have used an additive called CLM,which is a copper and lead mixture in a light oil. The particles are small enough to flow thru an oil filter.

I always thought stuff like this was just a hoax until I witnessed the demonstration.

A small group of friends of the HD shop I went to were invited to witness the test and bring a quart of our fav oil to test.

The testing equipment consisted of an electric motor with an ammeter,an oil trough and a steel bar that a torque wrench could be affixed to. A cylinder from a cone wheel bearing was the contact point.

Crank on the torque wrench,and watch the ammeter until the elect motor stalled.

Some oils did better than others. Amsoil did the best. Quaker State and Wolfs Head did the worse.

With the additive,the torque wrench could be maxxed out without motor stoppage. Then,the oil trough was removed. With just plain oil coating the bearing,the motor would quickly stop. With additive,it took awhile.

The idea behind the stuff is that it fills the microscopic pits and voids in friction surfaces. Being the copper and lead are soft,the small particles conform.

Only a few ounces are needed every other oil change AFTER the engine is broken in.

Been using this stuff since the '80s.
 
I think my skepticism is warranted in this case seeing as how almost all big name oil additives(slick 50, prolong, zmaxx, etc) have been sued by the FTC and lost for making false claims about their product. is anyone NOT using this product?

Skepticism is warranted because there is so much BS out there. Indeed the BS is so thick that if one were to raise the BS flag on everything, they would be right most of the time.

I believe there is one thing that seems to have been left out of the talk on this topic. So many of the snake oils make some pretty lofty claims such as no oil is even needed after this treatment, to rebuild your engine while you drive.

The ZDDP is not claiming it will help one lose weight and get rich, it just claims to replace the stuff missing from the oil, that was in the oil, when our engines were made.

But then what if a GN engine were built with roller cam and rockers - there are certainly some HP engines today, designed with today's oil, that have been racking up lots of miles...
 
CLM Debunked

For years I have used an additive called CLM,which is a copper and lead mixture in a light oil. The particles are small enough to flow thru an oil filter.
I always thought stuff like this was just a hoax until I witnessed the demonstration.
A small group of friends of the HD shop I went to were invited to witness the test and bring a quart of our fav oil to test.
The testing equipment consisted of an electric motor with an ammeter,an oil trough and a steel bar that a torque wrench could be affixed to. A cylinder from a cone wheel bearing was the contact point.
Crank on the torque wrench,and watch the ammeter until the elect motor stalled.
Some oils did better than others. Amsoil did the best. Quaker State and Wolfs Head did the worse.
With the additive,the torque wrench could be maxxed out without motor stoppage. Then,the oil trough was removed. With just plain oil coating the bearing,the motor would quickly stop. With additive,it took awhile.
The idea behind the stuff is that it fills the microscopic pits and voids in friction surfaces. Being the copper and lead are soft,the small particles conform.
Only a few ounces are needed every other oil change AFTER the engine is broken in.

Been using this stuff since the '80s.


CLM Debunked

Amateur oil additive enthusiasts often have pet theories about how their favorite additive works. Unfortunately for them, tribological action occurs at the molecular scale, and is not easily discerned without specialized instrumentation and testing. Fortunately for them, this testing HAS been done, and the results are incorporated into the best oils available today.

In their patent application 5245721, the designers of CLM claim it has: “Small, spherical metal particles (99%<20 microns) such as copper and lead, 33-55% naphthenic oil, 4-6% paraffinic oil, 35-45% chlorinated paraffin, and 5-20% metal powders or soaps together with minor proportions of the anti-oxidant/anti-wear agents and a sufficient amount of grease to maintain the metal powders in suspension .”

In the first place, NO ENGINE OIL SHOULD CONTAIN ANY PARTICLE OF ANY SHAPE OR SIZE LARGER THAN THE MINIMUM CLEARANCES IN THAT ENGINE. The reason for this is easily understood by studying the clearances in an engine under load.
Although the design static clearances in connecting rod and crankshaft main bearings are in the 0.001” to 0.003” range, under load they deflect off center and can be as little as 0.00004” (1 micron). These bearing systems are designed to be fully hydrodynamic mode bearings, and particles entering the bearing gap under load that are larger than the oil film will cause damage to the bearing insert, the journal, or both. In addition, many of the better oil filters have significant filtering capabilities in the 5-20 micron range. Use of this additive with these filters will result in much of the added metal powder being trapped in the filter, potentially reducing flow.

The use of a Timken Machine outside of a laboratory to demonstrate an oil additive’s anti wear characteristics is a common and misleading ploy which many have fallen for. This test merely gives one aspect of a lubricant’s performance, and the lubricant must also conform to all other applicable engine oil standards, which chlorinated paraffins do not. A chlorinated paraffin metalworking fluid (many of which have been phased out), for example, will give excellent results on a Timken machine, but is entirely unsuitable for use as an engine lubricant additive. Modern internal combustion engine oil formulations have eliminated chlorinated hydrocarbons of all sorts since the 1930s when they were shown to have long-term corrosive effects on engine parts due the corrosive chlorine that they release when heated. Their statement that their specific additive tested to be non-corrosive is in direct contradiction to the fact that they included chlorinated paraffin. The mechanism by which chlorinated paraffin works as an anti-wear agent, is pressure-induced heat liberates chlorine which bonds with steel to form FeCl2, an anti-wear film bonded with the metal. When this process occurs in the presence of moisture as is found in the sump of automobiles, highly corrosive hydrochloric acid is formed. If they claim in their testing that there was no chlorine released from the additive, then their test did not actually cause the additive to operate as an anti-wear additive. In this case, why would they include chlorinated paraffin in the formulation in the first place?

The best evidence you can find that this product is ineffective is provided by the patentees themselves in the patent application. They claim that the additive can decrease friction so significantly that the fuel mileage increased from 22.6 to 30.0MPG in one test (33%), and from 13.8 to 17.9MPG in another (30%). There are two easily understood proofs to reject this claim:

1) A gallon of gasoline, when combusted in an average engine releases 132,000,000 joules of energy which is spent as follows:
20% becomes useful motive energy., 50% is eliminated in the exhaust, 20% is conducted into the cooling system, and 10% of the total energy converted by friction into heat and passed into the cooling system. This means that on average, 13,200,000 joules of energy per gallon are wasted by frictional heating.
The gasoline usage in their first test dropped from 2.88 gallons to 2.17 gallons per hour. This is a claimed saving of 0.71 gallons, or 93,720,000 joules. Of the initial 2.88 gallons used, 38,016,000 joules of energy were spent per hour overcoming friction. So, they are claiming that their additive eliminated nearly 2.5 times as much frictional energy as the engine has total? Hmmm, this is obviously impossible, but let’s look at their other test.
The gasoline usage in their second test dropped from 4.71 gallons to 3.63 gallons per hour. This is a claimed saving of 1.08 gallons, or 142,560,000 joules. Of the initial 4.71 gallons used, 62,172,000 joules of energy were spent per hour overcoming friction. So, in this second test they are claiming that their additive eliminates nearly 2.3 times as much frictional energy loss as the engine has in total? I think I can safely discount their mileage increase claims at this point. Even if their additive actually eliminated ALL friction in the engine, the mileage would only increase by 10%.

2) If the energy budget calculations didn’t sway you, then consider this: The US government’s watchdog; the EPA has raised the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFÉ) standard continuously, from 18MPG in 1978 to 30.2 in 2011. If the average fuel economy of a manufacturer's annual fleet of car and/or truck production falls below the defined standard, the manufacturer must pay a penalty, currently $5.50 USD per 0.1 MPG under the standard, multiplied by the manufacturer's total production for the U.S. domestic market. This has cost the manufacturers hundreds of millions of dollars each over the last thirty years. If there was a single ‘silver bullet’ which could raise fuel efficiency by even one percent, it would be MANDATED, not merely adopted by all manufacturers. Many millions of dollars have gone into engine efficiency improvements, some of which have netted less than one percent efficiency increase.

Oil price conspiracy theorists aside, this technology would have been adopted as standard since its invention if it had any merit, so we can only conclude that it lacks merit. Furthermore, since we have established that the claims are intentionally false, why would you believe ANYTHING the inventor claimed? Add to this that the two claimed mechanisms of operation are both dangerous and have been eliminated from engine oils for over 50 years, and you get the picture.

Snake oil anyone?
 
so is this additive only for older engines? or should you also use it with new engine builds??
 
Thanks for the great write-up Richard. That Timken machine demo has been around for decades, being used by just about every snake oil sales demo around. You see them at car shows, county fairs, etc. etc. I like to call them the "slick 50 crowd". Everybody knows who they are, and that Timken machine demo has been debunked at just about every turn.
I guess there are a new crop of "believers" every decade or so. Probably what keeps the likes of slick 50, CLM, etc. in business ripping people off for so many decades.
 
I appreciate your input on my comment. Your informative post is duly noted. Perhaps I'm wrong or mislead by the friction test I took part in.

One if my daily drivers is an '87 Buick Century that I got at 162,000 with a loud engine knock. Today it has 295,xxx. I still get asked if it is a diesel. It still gets it's dose at every other oil change.

The Harley shop owner who has sold it to me over the years builds his own engines,and swears by the stuff. At 100,000mi he tore his personal bikes engine down. The engine showed very little wear. Less than average,according to him.

As far as him making $$ of it.. You've got to ask for it. He won't bother explaining things to skeptics.

I've been contemplating using a 50/50 dose of it and the ZZDP in my GN. Since I just got it in July,I haven't put any additives in it.

In summary,I have yet to have an oil related issue with all of my old junk. ...from my '60s Harley....to my mowers....to my old 3 1/2hp Montgomery Wards mini-bike with a shaved head and runs on 100LL AvGas hauling my 210lb frame around at wot. lol. So,until I see a negative for using it,I'll continue.

Besides,if my 295,000mi '87 Century with woodpeckers in the oil pan blows up when I stop the CLM,I'll be kicking myself.
 
CLM Debunked

Amateur oil additive enthusiasts often have pet theories about how their favorite additive works. Unfortunately for them, tribological action occurs at the molecular scale, and is not easily discerned without specialized instrumentation and testing. Fortunately for them, this testing HAS been done, and the results are incorporated into the best oils available today.

In their patent application 5245721, the designers of CLM claim it has: “Small, spherical metal particles (99%<20 microns) such as copper and lead, 33-55% naphthenic oil, 4-6% paraffinic oil, 35-45% chlorinated paraffin, and 5-20% metal powders or soaps together with minor proportions of the anti-oxidant/anti-wear agents and a sufficient amount of grease to maintain the metal powders in suspension .”

In the first place, NO ENGINE OIL SHOULD CONTAIN ANY PARTICLE OF ANY SHAPE OR SIZE LARGER THAN THE MINIMUM CLEARANCES IN THAT ENGINE. The reason for this is easily understood by studying the clearances in an engine under load.
Although the design static clearances in connecting rod and crankshaft main bearings are in the 0.001” to 0.003” range, under load they deflect off center and can be as little as 0.00004” (1 micron). These bearing systems are designed to be fully hydrodynamic mode bearings, and particles entering the bearing gap under load that are larger than the oil film will cause damage to the bearing insert, the journal, or both. In addition, many of the better oil filters have significant filtering capabilities in the 5-20 micron range. Use of this additive with these filters will result in much of the added metal powder being trapped in the filter, potentially reducing flow.

The use of a Timken Machine outside of a laboratory to demonstrate an oil additive’s anti wear characteristics is a common and misleading ploy which many have fallen for. This test merely gives one aspect of a lubricant’s performance, and the lubricant must also conform to all other applicable engine oil standards, which chlorinated paraffins do not. A chlorinated paraffin metalworking fluid (many of which have been phased out), for example, will give excellent results on a Timken machine, but is entirely unsuitable for use as an engine lubricant additive. Modern internal combustion engine oil formulations have eliminated chlorinated hydrocarbons of all sorts since the 1930s when they were shown to have long-term corrosive effects on engine parts due the corrosive chlorine that they release when heated. Their statement that their specific additive tested to be non-corrosive is in direct contradiction to the fact that they included chlorinated paraffin. The mechanism by which chlorinated paraffin works as an anti-wear agent, is pressure-induced heat liberates chlorine which bonds with steel to form FeCl2, an anti-wear film bonded with the metal. When this process occurs in the presence of moisture as is found in the sump of automobiles, highly corrosive hydrochloric acid is formed. If they claim in their testing that there was no chlorine released from the additive, then their test did not actually cause the additive to operate as an anti-wear additive. In this case, why would they include chlorinated paraffin in the formulation in the first place?

The best evidence you can find that this product is ineffective is provided by the patentees themselves in the patent application. They claim that the additive can decrease friction so significantly that the fuel mileage increased from 22.6 to 30.0MPG in one test (33%), and from 13.8 to 17.9MPG in another (30%). There are two easily understood proofs to reject this claim:

1) A gallon of gasoline, when combusted in an average engine releases 132,000,000 joules of energy which is spent as follows:
20% becomes useful motive energy., 50% is eliminated in the exhaust, 20% is conducted into the cooling system, and 10% of the total energy converted by friction into heat and passed into the cooling system. This means that on average, 13,200,000 joules of energy per gallon are wasted by frictional heating.
The gasoline usage in their first test dropped from 2.88 gallons to 2.17 gallons per hour. This is a claimed saving of 0.71 gallons, or 93,720,000 joules. Of the initial 2.88 gallons used, 38,016,000 joules of energy were spent per hour overcoming friction. So, they are claiming that their additive eliminated nearly 2.5 times as much frictional energy as the engine has total? Hmmm, this is obviously impossible, but let’s look at their other test.
The gasoline usage in their second test dropped from 4.71 gallons to 3.63 gallons per hour. This is a claimed saving of 1.08 gallons, or 142,560,000 joules. Of the initial 4.71 gallons used, 62,172,000 joules of energy were spent per hour overcoming friction. So, in this second test they are claiming that their additive eliminates nearly 2.3 times as much frictional energy loss as the engine has in total? I think I can safely discount their mileage increase claims at this point. Even if their additive actually eliminated ALL friction in the engine, the mileage would only increase by 10%.

2) If the energy budget calculations didn’t sway you, then consider this: The US government’s watchdog; the EPA has raised the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFÉ) standard continuously, from 18MPG in 1978 to 30.2 in 2011. If the average fuel economy of a manufacturer's annual fleet of car and/or truck production falls below the defined standard, the manufacturer must pay a penalty, currently $5.50 USD per 0.1 MPG under the standard, multiplied by the manufacturer's total production for the U.S. domestic market. This has cost the manufacturers hundreds of millions of dollars each over the last thirty years. If there was a single ‘silver bullet’ which could raise fuel efficiency by even one percent, it would be MANDATED, not merely adopted by all manufacturers. Many millions of dollars have gone into engine efficiency improvements, some of which have netted less than one percent efficiency increase.

Oil price conspiracy theorists aside, this technology would have been adopted as standard since its invention if it had any merit, so we can only conclude that it lacks merit. Furthermore, since we have established that the claims are intentionally false, why would you believe ANYTHING the inventor claimed? Add to this that the two claimed mechanisms of operation are both dangerous and have been eliminated from engine oils for over 50 years, and you get the picture.

Snake oil anyone?

wow. very informative reading. thats alot of knowledge. way above my paygrade. thanks mr. clark
 
Richard,

I'm not too technically inclined when it comes to oil chemistry. I purchased my Turbo Buick with 11,850 original miles and I'm positive that the previous owner never used ZDD Plus. Is it too late to start using ZDD and how can I tell if my camshaft lobes have already started to wear down?

Also with regards to the cat. how many miles? would it take before the cat. is effected by the ZDD and how would I know that its time to replace the cat.?

Thanks in advance.
 
Richard,

I'm not too technically inclined when it comes to oil chemistry. I purchased my Turbo Buick with 11,850 original miles and I'm positive that the previous owner never used ZDD Plus. Is it too late to start using ZDD and how can I tell if my camshaft lobes have already started to wear down?

Also with regards to the cat. how many miles? would it take before the cat. is effected by the ZDD and how would I know that its time to replace the cat.?

Thanks in advance.

when did you pruchase the low mileage car???? remember that until about 4 years ago virtually all oil on the market had more than enough zddp to adequately protect your car------there was really no need to add zddp till the API sequence SL oil came out and then it wasn't too serious------the newer SM sequence made it very important and this spring i believe SN is due to hit the shelves--------that will be a really bad time for older cars with owners that don't heed this advice--------its only the miles since then that are likely to have any negative effect----------its probably not too lat e to start using zddp just like its never too late to stop smoking--------early wear is not easy to spot but it is clear when it reaches the later stages-------usually the car will idle well but run poorly if you push it hard-------as for the cat???? remember this was in the oil when our cars were made------the older cats in a GN are not as sensitive to Phosphorus as the newer ones are------and what do you care about most your cat or your engine-------which costs more to replace?????---------besides do you really care about your cat------gut the thing and be done with it--------your turbo will thank you
 
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