Anybody Have Free To Air Tv ? Interested ?

GN ERGY

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A friend of mine turned me on to this a year and a half ago. You buy a receiver, dish and a lnb ( low noise booster ) about a $300 investment and you get D--h network for FREE. Check out these two sites and you will get an idea. DssEvolution or index
You download a program and load it into the receiver and presto satellite tv. No more costs or monthly fees. You get the pay per view movies and the $50 fights also.
Any of you guys already have this, what do you think?
Tarey D.
 
A friend of mine turned me on to this a year and a half ago. You buy a receiver, dish and a lnb ( low noise booster ) about a $300 investment and you get D--h network for FREE. Check out these two sites and you will get an idea. DssEvolution or index
You download a program and load it into the receiver and presto satellite tv. No more costs or monthly fees. You get the pay per view movies and the $50 fights also.
Any of you guys already have this, what do you think?
Tarey D.

Just what everybody needs to do, pirate Dish Network. :rolleyes:
 
It's the norm here...my buddy does it & it's been around for years. Best $300 ever spent on home !
 
so if i have dish network can i ude that?or do i buy the other stuff?


I'm not the expert, it's my buddy. But I'll tell ya what I know...u can't use the reciever that dish provided u. U need some reciever that has been modified (unlocked/decoded). He sometimes buys them off ebay(unblocked 1s). They are then modified. If u have dish already u can reuse the antenna (dish). The round part that faces the dish (don't know the name) can't be reused. After all the parts are ready he finds the place where the dish is to be placed, usually were there's the best signal. the signal is found with some device that he has...Don't know the name either like I said I'm not the expert. I'll ask him for some more 411. If he gives it to my I'll let u guys know, He's kind of secretive on this. Ohh BTW, u know that we all pay according to our internet speed rt ? Well he has some modified modems that all u need to do is call ur cable provider & tell them that u want the slowest internet option (cheapest). Then u unplug their modem & plug the modified 1 & boom it runs full speed. How does 5.2 -6.0 sound !! :eek: (at least in my area, could be more in other places) :eek: He's an electronics & computer freak !! I tell him if the feds get a hand on u ...u will never see daylight again ! :eek: :biggrin:
 
Ya know, it just doesn't seem too bright to ADVERTISE that you want to pirate satellite broadcasts- in facts, it seems kinda stupid to me.
 
Go to DSSEVOLUTION.com and register like you do here, then do a little reading. You can't use the old D--h receiver. You buy a receiver that has memory in it to download an encryption decoder program (bin file). It all depends what lnb, low noise booster, that is what receives the signal that you catch with your dish, what size dish you need. I have a Coolsat 5000 receiver, weingard dish and a Invacom quad lnb. You don't have to be hooked up the phone line or the internet. That is when you have a bunch of direct tv receivars and you rent them to your friends.
Tarey D.
 
Go to DSSEVOLUTION.com and register like you do here, then do a little reading. You can't use the old D--h receiver. You buy a receiver that has memory in it to download an encryption decoder program (bin file). It all depends what lnb, low noise booster, that is what receives the signal that you catch with your dish, what size dish you need. I have a Coolsat 5000 receiver, weingard dish and a Invacom quad lnb. You don't have to be hooked up the phone line or the internet. That is when you have a bunch of direct tv receivars and you rent them to your friends.
Tarey D.
legal or not?..back in the day i had the good stuff,but kept going out so gave it up...that was some time ago,but your saying this is legal?if not i definatly would ask to pull this post for your own good(pm me the info ;) )they may just pull it?...it would be like selling dope on the internet lol?...well they do that already...
 
legal or not?..back in the day i had the good stuff,but kept going out so gave it up...that was some time ago,but your saying this is legal?if not i definatly would ask to pull this post for your own good(pm me the info ;) )they may just pull it?...it would be like selling dope on the internet lol?...well they do that already...

Of course it's not legal and he knows it.
 
Legal as can be as long as you dont resale.I have a setup like this in my house and it works great.Be careful buying the box's and make sure theyre from authorized dealers and not knock off's.

Dish Network sucks compared to Direct Tv but free is free and you get PPV as well.Only downside is no DVR or HD programming and the initial install can be a PITA,even with the correct equipment.

If anyone is interested,send me a PM and I will fill you in on what you need.The Coolsat and Pansat are not the best recivers IMO
 
Legal as can be as long as you dont resale.I have a setup like this in my house and it works great.Be careful buying the box's and make sure theyre from authorized dealers and not knock off's.

Dish Network sucks compared to Direct Tv but free is free and you get PPV as well.Only downside is no DVR or HD programming and the initial install can be a PITA,even with the correct equipment.

If anyone is interested,send me a PM and I will fill you in on what you need.The Coolsat and Pansat are not the best recivers IMO


Lemme understand- a legitimate company is OK with you pirating the same service they offer for sale? I call BS on that. You're stealing-plain and simple.

Show me where it's legal, and OK with Dish Network.
 
Not legal gentlemen

Trust me on this one. Each state has specific wording, I read the illinois statute a while back, and it says something along the lines of theft of a broadcasted signal. The statute is so broad that it allows prosecution of satellite piraters.
 
If it were illegal,then theyd go after the companies making the box's.Simple as that.

Dave,you act like you know it all but would think youd get the hint that you didnt when you caused Scot W's car to pop a HG.:rolleyes:

Dish,unlike Direct TV,cannot afford to pay someone to scramble the signal on a daily basis,they can just have someone come in and do it every few months.Its a signal youre grabbing out of the air,just like your local TV broadcasts via rabbit ears.

I know how to set em up.If yall do,lets continue this conversation...

And if it were illegal,itd fall under FEDERAL law,not state.If youre selling the box's active or selling the service of unscrambling,then yes,its prosecutable at the state/federal level.
 
And if it were illegal,itd fall under FEDERAL law,not state.If youre selling the box's active or selling the service of unscrambling,then yes,its prosecutable at the state/federal level.

Drew, keep on topic. According to FEDERAL LAW, you are a thief:

47 U.S.C. 605. Unauthorized Publication or Use of Communications


[SIZE=+1]47 U.S.C. 605.[/SIZE] Unauthorized Publication or Use of Communications
§ 605. Unauthorized Publication or Use of Communications
(a) Practices prohibited
Except as authorized by chapter 119, Title 18, no person receiving, assisting in receiving, transmitting, or assisting in transmitting, any interstate or foreign communication by wire or radio shall divulge or publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning thereof, except through authorized channels of transmission or reception, (1) to any person other than the addressee, his agent, or attorney, (2) to a person employed or authorized to forward such communication to its destination, (3) to proper accounting or distributing officers of the various communicating centers over which the communication may be passed, (4) to the master of a ship under whom he is serving, (5) in response to a subpena issued by a court of competent jurisdiction, or (6) on demand of other lawful authority. No person not being authorized by the sender shall intercept any radio communication and divulge or publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of such intercepted communication to any person. No person not being entitled thereto shall receive or assist in receiving any interstate or foreign communication by radio and use such communication (or any information therein contained) for his own benefit or for the benefit of another not entitled thereto. No person having received any intercepted radio communication or having become acquainted with the contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of such communication (or any part thereof) knowing that such communication was intercepted, shall divulge or publish the existence, contents, substance, purport, effect, or meaning of such communication (or any part thereof) or use such communication (or any information therein contained) for his own benefit or for the benefit of another not entitled thereto. This section shall not apply to the receiving, divulging, publishing, or utilizing the contents of any radio communication which is transmitted by any station for the use of the general public, which relates to ships, aircraft, vehicles, or persons in distress, or which is transmitted by an amateur radio station operator or by a citizens band radio operator.
(b) Exceptions
The provisions of subsection (a) of this section shall not apply to the interception or receipt by any individual, or the assisting (including the manufacture or sale) of such interception or receipt, of any satellite cable programming for private viewing if--
  • (1) the programming involved is not encrypted; and
    (2)
    • (A) a marketing system is not established under which--
      • (i) an agent or agents have been lawfully designated for the purpose of authorizing private viewing by individuals, and
        (ii) such authorization is available to the individual involved from the appropriate agent or agents; or
      (B) a marketing system described in subparagraph (A) is established and the individuals receiving such programming has obtained authorization for private viewing under that system.
(c) Scrambling of Public Broadcasting Service programming
No person shall encrypt or continue to encrypt satellite delivered programs included in the National Program Service of the Public Broadcasting Service and intended for public viewing by retransmission by television broadcast stations; except that as long as at least one unencrypted satellite transmission of any program subject to this subsection is provided, this subsection shall not prohibit additional encrypted satellite transmissions of the same program.
(d) Definitions
For purposes of this section--
  • (1) the term "satellite cable programming" means video programming which is transmitted via satellite and which is primarily intended for the direct receipt by cable operators for their retransmission to cable subscribers;
    (2) the term "agent", with respect to any person, includes an employee of such person;
    (3) the term "encrypt", when used with respect to satellite cable programming, means to transmit such programming in a form whereby the aural and visual characteristics (or both) are modified or altered for the purpose of preventing the unauthorized receipt of such programming by persons without authorized equipment which is designed to eliminate the effects of such modification or alteration;
    (4) the term "private viewing" means the viewing for private use in an individual's dwelling unit by means of equipment, owned or operated by such individual, capable of receiving satellite cable programming directly from a satellite;
    (5) the term "private financial gain" shall not include the gain resulting to any individual for the private use in such individual's dwelling unit of any programming for which the individual has not obtained authorization for that use; and (6) the term "any person aggrieved" shall include any person with proprietary rights in the intercepted communication by wire or radio, including wholesale or retail distributors of satellite cable programming, and, in the case of a violation of paragraph (4) of subsection (e) of this section shall also include any person engaged in the lawful manufacture, distribution, or sale of equipment necessary to authorize or receive satellite cable programming.
(e) Penalties; civil actions; remedies; attorney's fees and costs; computation of damages; regulation by State and local authorities
  • (1) Any person who willfully violates subsection (a) of this section shall be fined not more than $2,000 or imprisoned for not more than 6 months, or both.
    (2) Any person who violates subsection (a) of this section willfully and for purposes of direct or indirect commercial advantage or private financial gain shall be fined not more than $50,000 or imprisoned for not more than 2 years, or both, for the first such conviction and shall be fined not more than $100,000 or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both, for any subsequent conviction.
    (3)
    • (A) Any person aggrieved by any violation of subsection (a) of this section or paragraph (4) of this subsection may bring a civil action in a United States district court or in any other court of competent jurisdiction.
      (B) The court--
      • (i) may grant temporary and final injunctions on such terms as it may deem reasonable to prevent or restrain violations of subsection (a) of this section;
        (ii) may award damages as described in subparagraph (C); and
        (iii) shall direct the recovery of full costs, including awarding reasonable attorneys' fees to an aggrieved party who prevails.
      (C)
      • (i) Damages awarded by any court under this section shall be computed, at the election of the aggrieved party, in accordance with either of the following subclauses;
        • (I) the party aggrieved may recover the actual damages suffered by him as a result of the violation and any profits of the violator that are attributable to the violation which are not taken into account in computing the actual damages; in determining the violator's profits, the party aggrieved shall be required to prove only the violator's gross revenue, and the violator shall be required to prove his deductible expenses and the elements of profit attributable to factors other than the violation; or (II) the party aggrieved may recover an award of statutory damages for each violation of subsection (a) of this section involved in the action in a sum of not less than $1,000 or more than $10,000, as the court considers just, and for each violation of paragraph (4) of this subsection involved in the action an aggrieved party may recover statutory damages in a sum not less than $10,000, or more than $100,000, as the court considers just.
        (ii) In any case in which the court finds that the violation was committed willfully and for purposes of direct or indirect commercial advantage or private financial gain, the court in its discretion may increase the award of damages, whether actual or statutory, by an amount of not more than $100,000 for each violation of subsection (a) of this section. (iii) In any case where the court finds that the violator was not aware and had no reason to believe that his acts constituted a violation of this section, the court in its discretion may reduce the award of damages to a sum of not less than $250.
  • (4) Any person who manufactures, assembles, modifies, imports, exports, sells, or distributes any electronic, mechanical, or other device or equipment, knowing or having reason to know that the device or equipment is primarily of assistance in the unauthorized decryption of satellite cable programming, or direct-to-home satellite services, or is intended for any other activity prohibited by subsection (a) of this section, shall be fined not more than $500,000 for each violation, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years for each violation, or both. For purposes of all penalties and remedies established for violations of this paragraph, the prohibited activity established herein as it applies to each such device shall be deemed a separate violation.
    (5) The penalties under this subsection shall be in addition to those prescribed under any other provision of this subchapter. (6) Nothing in this subsection shall prevent any State, or political subdivision thereof, from enacting or enforcing any laws with respect to the importation, sale, manufacture, or distribution of equipment by any person with the intent of its use to assist in the interception or receipt of radio communications prohibited by subsection (a) of this section.
(f) Rights, obligations, and liabilities under other laws unaffected
Nothing in this section shall affect any right, obligation, or liability under Title 17, any rule, regulation, or order thereunder, or any other applicable Federal, State or local law.
(g) Universal encryption standard
The Commission shall initiate an inquiry concerning the need for a universal encryption standard that permits decryption of satellite cable programming intended for private viewing. In conducting such inquiry, the Commission shall take into account--
  • (1) consumer costs and benefits of any such standard, including consumer investment in equipment in operation;
    (2) incorporation of technological enhancements, including advanced television formats;
    (3) whether any such standard would effectively prevent present and future unauthorized decryption of satellite cable programming;
    (4) the costs and benefits of any such standard on other authorized users of encrypted satellite cable programming, including cable systems and satellite master antenna television systems;
    (5) the effect of any such standard on competition in the manufacture of decryption equipment; and (6) the impact of the time delay associated with the Commission procedures necessary for establishment of such standards.
(h) Rulemaking for encryption standard
If the Commission finds, based on the information gathered from the inquiry required by subsection (g) of this section, that a universal encryption standard is necessary and in the public interest, the Commission shall initiate a rulemaking to establish such a standard.

Wordy, but clear and to the point. Up to 10k per violation/ 6 moths in jail for a user, up to 100k /5 years per violation for pirating for financial gain, and up to $500k/5 years for box manufacturers/sellers/distributors.

Comment?
 
Dave,you act like you know it all but would think youd get the hint that you didnt when you caused Scot W's car to pop a HG.:rolleyes:

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I'm not sure where you got that info you lieing piece of garbage,
but I haven't had anything to do with the actual tuning his car.

I thought we had gotten rid of you and your ways over a year ago, but I see your back, and up to your same old garbage.

As a matter of fact I believe I'll let scot see this post, and let him tell the truth of the matter.

You my boy have been called out.
 
Dave,you act like you know it all but would think youd get the hint that you didnt when you caused Scot W's car to pop a HG.:rolleyes:
Drew! I don't know where you heard that Dave caused the HG to blow but your information couldn't be farther from the truth! I don't like to point fingers and if i choose not to point fingers i don't think you should! especialy if you were not even there! So, please refrain from coments like that if you wern't even around to whitness anything and all your going by is rumor..
 
Amazing. Mr. Gn ergy, you've returned.

You still 0we me $50 or one complete throttle body.
You sent the other guy $100 for the two wrong throttle bodies but never sent mine. Make good on your offer.
 
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