They are both faster than what most of us drive. They are both faster than most who own them can handle. Comparing numbers of what other people do with the cars is pointless. Just because it runs low 12's, mid 11's, whatever, doesn't mean it'll do it with you behind the wheel. The consumer will vote with their dollars, which is all that really matters, so let's just be happy that we have so many wonderful choices these days for that extra $60 large we all have laying around. We'll talk about these days 20 years from now and say, "remember when that 200mph Mustang came out" or "Remember when they actually developed a Camaro on the 'ring." While we are all federally mandated to drive whatever generic, eco-, safety-mobile that probably won't even let you actually drive yourself. The moral is, just enjoy your good, old-fashioned, drive WITH a cable and not a wire, Turbo Buick.