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You mean 1 aluminum head car. All other Tsm cars are about the same mph.
OFFICIAL 2014 TSM RULES DISCUSSION
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I am here from time to time. I say no changes.
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So do we need to vote on if we need to vote?
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A. No changes
B. Vote on changes
Post up or PM your vote to me
B. Vote on changes
Post up or PM your vote to me
tom robison
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Sack, are you the man in charge of tsm now or is jw?
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Still JW
tom robison
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I was just wondering if you had taken the class over.
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Are you a newbie here? That question made you sound like one 
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I'm just trying to help
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I hope that reply was not intended for me.Are you a newbie here? That question made you sound like one
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It was. Why did you think Jason quit running it? Sack is his go to guy. Personal assistant
tom robison
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That's why the question was asked, not everybody knows these things.
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Sack has a real good personality so Jason speaks through him
I vote for no changes.
-Weights are good as seen by the two top performing cars at BG..(within .1-.15 ET avg)
I've run both 71 turbo @ 3450 and 67 turbo @ 3350 to prove that point. Identical times with both combos (8.81 BG 2012 - 8.81 BG 2013)
John Plog went 8.96 with a big wheelie with irons at ~3260, little less wheelie and it will be 8.80-8.90 range.
Walt J went 9.20s, Randy A has been 9.20s, etc at heavier weight.
-Exhaust removal, wastegate changes, or 4 bolt turbos will increase power... alot.. IT WILL make cars faster than they are now.
Keep full exhaust and wastgate into DP
Keep three bolt Buick style housing rule to limit exhaust wheel size
-The "Turbo Plug" was supposed to be shipped back to me from Sully but I still haven't seen it. I do have the rings for the 71/67 compressor wheels if needed.
The only limit we have right now in the class is the exhaust housing/wheel combination. Remove that, you remove BP and make more HP..
I've tested so many different things to prove to myself that the rules/weights are pretty dang close, and they are..
That's my opinion based on facts, Carry on.
Sack thanks for leading this discussion... I told you what would happen
FYI if you want your fastest time updated PLEASE email timeslip info to turbostreetmodified @ gmail.com
-Weights are good as seen by the two top performing cars at BG..(within .1-.15 ET avg)
I've run both 71 turbo @ 3450 and 67 turbo @ 3350 to prove that point. Identical times with both combos (8.81 BG 2012 - 8.81 BG 2013)
John Plog went 8.96 with a big wheelie with irons at ~3260, little less wheelie and it will be 8.80-8.90 range.
Walt J went 9.20s, Randy A has been 9.20s, etc at heavier weight.
-Exhaust removal, wastegate changes, or 4 bolt turbos will increase power... alot.. IT WILL make cars faster than they are now.
Keep full exhaust and wastgate into DP
Keep three bolt Buick style housing rule to limit exhaust wheel size
-The "Turbo Plug" was supposed to be shipped back to me from Sully but I still haven't seen it. I do have the rings for the 71/67 compressor wheels if needed.
The only limit we have right now in the class is the exhaust housing/wheel combination. Remove that, you remove BP and make more HP..
I've tested so many different things to prove to myself that the rules/weights are pretty dang close, and they are..
That's my opinion based on facts, Carry on.
Sack thanks for leading this discussion... I told you what would happen
FYI if you want your fastest time updated PLEASE email timeslip info to turbostreetmodified @ gmail.com
tom robison
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Sack thanks for leading this discussion... I told you what would happen
What happened?
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What happened?
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I didn't quit... I just stopped arguing with you
Steve wanted to help and he is helping..
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Dude I thought we were tight!!! Are you saying that Sack likes to argue?I didn't quit... I just stopped arguing with you
Steve wanted to help and he is helping..
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If you go back to page one, I proposed changes.
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My intent was to discuss this early so people have time over the winter to make changes if needed. I'm helping with a local car and he is waiting to buy parts based on the rules.
RYAN GRAVES
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This makes sense. Rebuilding my car, does not look like it will fit TSM. Has 109, but 4 bolt 71. No exhaust and gated to atmosphere, and going to be light!! Outlaw TSM TTFMF. lol. Would be nice to see TSM align with some local and national rules. I Have never raced any TSM, but did local X275 race, would like to though. Good luck to all..
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