Radar detectors and Laser

[GNBRETT]

Neither you or I have established our expertise so I will just ask again and include all the stuff you keep ignoring...My googleing simply provided mfr specs that shows somebody here is wrong about some things. I would not expect the fine TB.C members to just take my word for it because I typed it and posted it on the message board...like you did.

How do you know? This is the second [make that thrid] time I asked you this - why do you not answer?

Perhaps you do not answer for the same reason you chose to ignore challenges I made in my last post calling you on the accusations and conclusions YOU MADE.

Now are you gonna take responsibility for those comments YOU MADE or will you keep digging?

Here it is again:

I am sorry that google enabled me to so quickly supply information from the manufacturer that confirms what I have already said, and I never said K is more sensitive then Ka so no embarrassment there - well at least on my part.

So show us where I confused LIDAR with Radar since you also accused me of some failure there. And while you are at it, please do tell how you know so much about my certifications, or lack there of.

The "copy and paste from the Internet" defense is only good when you do not have anything substantial to say; although the National Radar Defense thing in a speed gun thread was kinda funny. However, when one chooses such a defense it would be better directed at a copy and pasted blog, not specifications from the mfr. Or are we to understand that you know more about the laser and radar guns the engineers that design and build these things?

Let me try again. I speak from personal experience while experimenting on the highway. That's how I know. Can you say that? I didn't think so.

 

[Blown&Injected]

Let me try again. I speak from personal experience while experimenting on the highway. That's how I know. Can you say that? I didn't think so.

When was the first time you put your hands on a radar gun?

So you are a street cop. That hardly makes you an Electrical Engineer and certainly has not established how you know what my experiences are or how you have come to conclusions about it.

What type of speed detection devices do you use? I would like to know what one has that 10 mile range.

So Brett - where did I say K is more sensitive then Ka? I just checked and I did not see that any of my posts were edited so it is all there for everybody to see.

 

[Blown&Injected]

Let me try again. I speak from personal experience while experimenting on the highway. That's how I know. Can you say that? I didn't think so.

And for the record - that was you first try, not a "try again", but I will try again.

So where did I confuse LIDAR with Radar as you claimed? Like I said, I have not edited anything in or out of my posts so it is all still there for you and everybody else to see.

 

[GNBRETT]

I have been trained by the countries leading experts at IPTM with over (80) hrs. of Radar/Laser instruction and over (200) hours of accident reconstruction as well as (13) years of practical experience on our accident investigation team as a supervisor in New Englands 2nd largest Police Department. That's how I know about speed and traffic related offenses.

I walk the walk. You just talk it. Your beating a dead horse and way out of your league on this subject. This is like me arguing with Cal Hartline on how to tune an XFI. You can read the instruction manual of the XFI but until you get it on the dyno and track with practical experience it really dosent mean D!ck!

 

[Blown&Injected]

I have been trained by the countries leading experts at IPTM with over (80) hrs. of Radar/Laser instruction and over (200) hours of accident reconstruction as well as (13) years of practical experience on our accident investigation team as a supervisor in New Englands 2nd largest Police Department. That's how I know about speed and traffic related offenses.

I walk the walk. You just talk it. Your beating a dead horse and way out of your league on this subject. This is like me arguing with Cal Hartline on how to tune an XFI. You can read the instruction manual of the XFI but until you get it on the dyno and track with practical experience it really dosent mean D!ck!

I thought this was about LIDAR and Radar???

Nice try but we are not talking about traffic offences we are talking about your magic 10 mile speed gun and about how you keep failing to take responsibility for the lies you have posted in this thread.

BTW about 13 years ago I worked for a firm that used radar guns in commercial applications. So yes I do have experience with radar guns - never even got close to a LIDAR gun but that does not mean I can't learn about the range of the gun. So are we to believe your experience as a cop changes the range of a radar and laser guns?

I bet an expert tuner reads the manual to the products at least the first time they as they become acquainted with the equipment...I also bet if the manual said the device is designed for 4,000 feet maximum, they would not try to make it work in an application calling for 52,800 feet - but then a tuner is not a cop that is above the laws of physics - LOL

 

[GNBRETT]

I thought this was about LIDAR and Radar???

Nice try but we are not talking about traffic offences we are talking about your magic 10 mile speed gun and about how you keep failing to take responsibility for the lies you have posted in this thread.

BTW about 13 years ago I worked for a firm that used radar guns in commercial applications. So yes I do have experience with radar guns - never even got close to a LIDAR gun but that does not mean I can't learn about the range of the gun. So are we to believe your experience as a cop changes the range of a radar and laser guns?

I bet an expert tuner reads the manual to the products at least the first time they as they become acquainted with the equipment...I also bet if the manual said the device is designed for 4,000 feet maximum, they would not try to make it work in an application calling for 52,800 feet - but then a tuner is not a cop that is above the laws of physics - LOL

The horse is not only dead, it's been buried!

 

[Blown&Injected]

So Brett - where did I say K is more sensitive then Ka? I just checked and I did not see that any of my posts were edited so it is all there for everybody to see and where did I confuse LIDAR with Radar as you claimed?

You say you "walk the walk" so when you gonna take responsibility for your claims?

 

[GNBRETT]

Now the horse is rotting....

 

[Blown&Injected]

I guess you really do not walk the walk as claimed.

By your reply, can we assume that you are conceding on your word on those issues too?

Beginning to wonder what, if anything you claim is true.

 

[GNBRETT]

You lost the debate because you brought nothing to the debate. It's over. Get over it. The End......

 

[Blown&Injected]

Now don't get like South Park's Cartman and take your ball and go home just because you got busted telling lies about me and your 10 mile speed gun. Some of the audience still has popcorn - you can't go now.

Come on say just one more illogical stupid thing - this isjust getting fun.


Why don't you google some more police jobs so you can find some more official sounding qualifications to cut and paste on to the message board.

 

[ARL]

Quit Bickering!

Come on Dudes, quit bickering. My 4 kids don't bicker back and forth like this.
Bottom line, some detectors work, some don't. I don't know of any cop to clock a car at the distances that have been mentioned. And I sure would not clock cars that are packed together. Best clocks are car by themselves, This is when detectors aren't work a damn. Bottom line, dont speed, you wont get stopped, If u do, dont be an a$$, You may get a break, And if you are driving your GN, You may get asked to pop the hood!

 

[Blown&Injected]

Good idea - I'm headin' back to the tech section

 

[SS_Sean]

I guess you really do not walk the walk as claimed.

By your reply, can we assume that you are conceding on your word on those issues too?

Beginning to wonder what, if anything you claim is true.

When u sit behind the radar/lidar as a trained person I will listen. I repect what you suggest, and I'm sure you have some good ideas, but there is no experience or training there. What has been going on just trying to dispel some myths and provide some education, but it has turned into some weird, ugly thing. If you dont have any training or education on the use of the various systems out there then you are just a subjective speculator. And armchair athelete. An instigater. A trouble maker. If you have specific, real-world information to provide to folks, to assist people in being safe, saving money, and saving lives, that's cool. But you do not. You are an internet warrior. Until you have experience or training to provide to assist people then you are an internet hero, armed with your google powers. Go back to your friends in the policital board where you appear to be a somewhat intelligent being on these topics of conteporanius bullpucky. Until then those folks who have been there and done that will continue to offer sound advice, without bias, and attempt to help people without big brother making a buck. For any folks who are interested in truth and real help/suggestions, send me a pm. I am always about giving folks information/truth. If you would like real information the please send me a message. And that is the facts...

B&I, stop. You are beginning to sound really silly, sir.

 

[Blown&Injected]

I will stop when you stop making challenging comments claiming I am the trouble maker. I am not the liar here! And calling me sir after you tell me off will not earn you a break.

One need not have ever even seen a radar gun to know 10 miles is BS and so are the lies that your colleague has been caught telling here.

So please tell me what I said that is incorrect here!

I said about this, in about this order:

RD's are 99% useless in my area because it is all instant on.

I called BS on 10 mile range and that the speed detection device will calculate speed before the RD will alert.

And then I demanded your buddy to show me where I said the things he claimed I said.

Somewhere in there I posted specs directly from the MFR - not my claims - the maker of what is supposed to be the best gun out - their specs on max range.

So now where is the good info coming from? If I am so wrong I beg you to show us all what it is.

 

[salvageV6]

Wearing a badge, being a moderator, being a politician, being a used car salesman, being a business owner, doesn't necessarily stop you from bending the truth a bit or a lot.

Facts always rule excepting in the OJ case.

Human nature at work here.

Cover those B.S. tracks with insults, now who's silly. :biggrin:

Out of popcorn here.

The truth in this thread can be spotted 10 miles away.

Reminds me of an alky. thread or two.

 

[V6UnderPressure]

I used to have the Escort passport 8500? I now use and prefer a Valentine one, and I got nailed Ohio the other day with Laser, just as I came over a hill. Nothing you can do there. I passed two officers with laser while going through there. A couple years ago I was through Ohio and they used laser as well. Ohio is bad and although a few people warned me about it, I thought I would be safe. The V1 has never let me down with Radar. Sometimes I've picked up the 5-0 at up to 2 miles in advance. But laser is such an instantaneous burst, one shot of the trigger and they got you. Have to really rely on your eyes. Contrary to what someone else said though, the laser does not have to be directed only at you for your detector to pick it up. Some "good" detectors pick it up, I know this because when I picked it up I was doing in the upwards of 90mph and I wasn't the one pulled over. I am now looking into a jammer. However, I do not use my radar detector to aid me in breaking the law. I always like having peace of mind while driving in case I end up daydreaming and all of a sudden am cruising 20mph over the speed limit. My V1 keeps me honest....most of the time.:biggrin:

 

[turbo39151]

Simplicity...

Don't speed. It's that easy.

I used to have the top of the line detectors and while they did save me a few times, I noticed that if I relied on the detectors I got lazy (ie: not watching out for the police hiding and waiting for my dumb arse to speed by). There's the whole time and distance stuff that no detector will beat... (the old fashioned way)

When I pulled the detector out of the car, I was ever more vigilant because I did not have some electrical gizmo warning me every other second. Since that time, I put the car on cruise and keep it reasonable. If I need to dust someone it's quick and painless (for me at least ) and of course I bring it back down to the proper limits as soon as the deed is done- and it's rare these days anyway.

Last time I had someone tailgate me in the dark, I was in Austin and I just pulled away from the car. They rode up on me again- like almost on my bumper- so I dusted them- It was not pretty. Turns out it was the popo; police cruiser pulled next to me and turned on the lights, waived, gave thumbs up and told me to slow down and let me go... Sometimes the Gods do look down upon us with favor.

Keep it safe out there.

 

[turboc87gn]

I have a passport 8500 and it works great and has saved me many a ticket you have to remember the averave officer is not a crack shot at working his equipment radar laser or otherwise... if you are gonna speed be smart about im an expedite truck driver and theres plenty you can do if you gotta fly..for one use the right lane two try to find someone else speeding and let them roll about an eighth to a quarter mile in front of you high end detectors will pick up laser if the cop shoots the car in front of you i watched it happen i want speding at the time and the cop was on an overpass there weas only one car in front of me the laser went off i thought he was shooting me until the other car was past him then my trusty passport went off again letting me know that the officer was shooting at me then and the other car the first time...Ive also seen my detector goin off and on then off then on and the cop was shooting traffic and was sitting almost a mile in front of me he wasnt shooting a mile down the road he shooting close at what he could see ive even had and officer doing it while rolling the same direction as me like two cars ahead off on off on my point is there are tecniques that will fool radar detectors but most officers wont utilize them and combined with common sense the better detectors can help you stay ticket free more times than not...also did i mention the new ones will show you where traffic cameras are too lol just my 2c....

 

[falcon_325]

horizon...

10 miles? I don't know jack about radar guns, but I know the distance to the horizon for a six foot man is only a couple of miles. Even 20-30 feet up on an overpass might be 6-7 miles. I would think that you would have to see the target to hit it with a laser or radar. I could be wrong...