lost all gears, any guesses?! pics attached

[1987boosted]

Yesterday I got new wheels and tires mounted. After about fifteen miles transmission started slipping under load. Thought I was going crazy, so I punched it again, lost all gears, no reverse, no od, nothing! Pulled transmission, looking down the input shaft i see a rubber seal and what appears to be something broken. On a good note the stance is sweet now with the new rims. Transmission is a pts extreme street. Any input is appreciated on what could have happened. I couldn't help posting a pic with the new wheels, and suspension, it's been a long road getting here.. Thanks for any help..

 

[Chuck Leeper]

Pump looks to be broken. Pics are blurry, so I can't be sure.
Could also be the input shaft is wrung off, or the stator support is toast.
Time to pull the ft pump out, and take a look.
What does the drive snout on the converter look like?

 

[1987boosted]

Convertor looks perfect, the first pic is just gasket material that looks to have twisted from somewhere in there, second appears to be a piece of steel from something that is close to input shaft, sorry for the blurry pictures, phone pictures are not too hot

 

[Chuck Leeper]

Convertor looks perfect, the first pic is just gasket material that looks to have twisted from somewhere in there, second appears to be a piece of steel from something that is close to input shaft, sorry for the blurry pictures, phone pictures are not too hot

Could be a chunk of the pump....

 

[1987boosted]

Would a pump falling apart cause no gears except neutral??

 

[pdzz]

Broken nub off the forward drum would be my guess. Been there a couple of times..

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[pacecarta]

thats what happens when the converter isnt properly shimmed from the flywheel when needed , except for stock converter on a stock flywheel almost every aftermarket converter needs some shim between converter and flywheel to maintain the pump engagement

looks like youll need a new pump

 

[Ktbregal]

How do u know how much shim to use, sorry for hijack!

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[1987boosted]

thats what happens when the converter isnt properly shimmed from the flywheel when needed , except for stock converter on a stock flywheel almost every aftermarket converter needs some shim between converter and flywheel to maintain the pump engagement

looks like youll need a new pump

I am curious as well, as the car has never had shims installed. How do you determine shim spacing?

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[delcowizzid]

if its anything like a 350 behind a chev you should be able to pull the converter towards the motor OUT of the trans and up to the flexplate around 1/8 to 3/16" use a drill bit to measure the gap to the flexplate with torque convertor hard in the box

 

[Chuck Leeper]

Would a pump falling apart cause no gears except neutral??

Yep. No fluid flow, means no clutch engagement...
It's too late now, but you could have checked it by checking fluid level w/ engine off. Then check again running. Did the level go down??Yes = pump running. No = no pump action.

 

[pacecarta]

push converter back away from flywheel (against pump) , measure clearance from converter pad to flywheel

you want the converter to be off the pump a minimum 1/16" but no more than 3/16" ,
so if you measure less than 3/16" at flywheel just slide it to the flywheel and bolt it up ,
if more than 3/16" add a shim (hardened washer) to get clearance just under 3/16"

quick checker is a nickle and a dime stacked .. if they slide in and have room to go you should use a shim

 

[black84]

Yep. No fluid flow, means no clutch engagement...
It's too late now, but you could have checked it by checking fluid level w/ engine off. Then check again running. Did the level go down??Yes = pump running. No = no pump action.

Its to late? So the tranny has to be rebuilt? I think this is what happended to mine. I had a few gears go out and barely made it home, that was 9 years ago. It leaked out all the tranny oil in my garage one day when I turned the car on. I just now started fixing it... LOL

 

[1987boosted]

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Took the pump out and replaced.. See below for pump taken apart..

 

[notacarlo]

Were you with the car for the entire wheel tire swap? No shop joyrides.

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[1987boosted]

Yes, it had nothing to do with Firestone complete care, plus I know everyone there, and even then.. It was going to fail eventually.. Learned on this one

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[1987boosted]

Plus this is my cars favorite spot! On jack stands and me complaining on that last bolt..

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[1987boosted]

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And I forgot to post my cars favourite spot! When it stays put, it runs!

 

[1987boosted]

Yep. No fluid flow, means no clutch engagement...
It's too late now, but you could have checked it by checking fluid level w/ engine off. Then check again running. Did the level go down??Yes = pump running. No = no pump action.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, I never realized it needed to be shimmed, I truly appreciate you taking the time to post. It was installed in 2002 without shims. Lasted a long time, but it's starting to make allot more power, so that may have something to do with it. Thanks a ton. I'll update once I put oil in it next weekend..

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[RmvBfrFlght]

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And I forgot to post my cars favourite spot! When it stays put, it runs!

Same exact spot my car is at Although after I get the lawn mowed it'll be back on it's feet.

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