I got tan ones from a Camaro SS and if you didn't know these cars you'd think they were the stock seats. The 98-02 set way better and they are a lot lighter. Even when a TTA was new the press commented about how uncomfortable the seats were. The 4th gen seats also set a little lower, so you have more head room. I swapped a slightly smaller Grant GT steering wheel too, so it's night and day easier to get in and out of the car plus you don't have the upper spokes from the stock steering wheel blocking the gauges. These were both excellent upgrades IMO, and it doesn't look any different than stock to the casual observer.