Time to go Stage II!

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OK. What's Tony's main reason for not accepting my terms? He wants to stick to the very first challenge. Fine by me. Take it or leave it.
 
He'll have to answer that. My impression, for you making those rules was so you could find some sort of "loophole" where his car won't meet one of them and you can save face for not racing him after you called him out. Instead of making all those rules, just make sure it's his car vs your car. No rules, just those two cars, racing each other.

Tony offered to give you $10,000 just for showing up. What are you going to offer to cover his expenses for coming to you?
 
You guy's are ruthless but funny as hell! I'm sure glad I don't have a fast car so I can fly under the radar and keep my dignity intact. :D BTW, it will be good to see you all at BG this year. FWIW, I'd toss $1k in the pot to if it helps Don and Tony's grudge match actually happen.:rolleyes:

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Having a fast car has nothing to do with it. Donny has proven that ;) It looks like everyone wants it to happen. Between my offer for a free racing venue, Gene's offer for gas money, your offer for $1K, and Tony's GIANT offer, why wouldn't this happen? I look forward to meeting you at BG, I'm sure we'll have something to chat about :D
 
I think EVERYONE needs to go back and reread the original offer. The one that Tony wants to stick to.
 
Ok how about this offer, 10,ooo to you just to show up at a my track. another 10,000 to win. If my car fails anything on that list....... I forfeit the 10,000. You walk away with 20,000


seems like he accepted your second offer (the one with the list last night) ^^^^^
 
He'll have to answer that. My impression, for you making those rules was so you could find some sort of "loophole" where his car won't meet one of them and you can save face for not racing him after you called him out. Instead of making all those rules, just make sure it's his car vs your car. No rules, just those two cars, racing each other.

Tony offered to give you $10,000 just for showing up. What are you going to offer to cover his expenses for coming to you?
You completely missed the reason for me coming up with the list. I wanted to make sure I would be racing Tony's car and not someone elses. I think I tried to explain that in more than one post.
 
You as a man last night opened your mouth and made this offer to me.....
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OK. Since you don't want to come down to show me just to be helpful, why don't we make it a match race when I get the car back together. 10.5-15Ws. No other rules. My track. 500 to the winner.

Me as a man accepted your offer.... and simply asked you how much. Today you put rules into it and proceded to call me names because I said YOUR offer was no rules !!! I will honor what I said last night.... that i would race you what are you willing to honor ??
Here it is people. This was quoted from one of Tony's posts. You want the original conditions? You got it. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
You completely missed the reason for me coming up with the list. I wanted to make sure I would be racing Tony's car and not someone elses. I think I tried to explain that in more than one post.

No need for any lists. The race is your 224ci car vs Tony's TSO legal car. Why do you think he would need to bring another car? Based on past performances, he has you covered by around 8 tenths and 15 mph. The biggest stumbling block I see is you making it worth it for Tony to make the drive. He certainly made it worth it for you to come to him. $10000 should cover your expenses even if your tow vehicle has a slipping transmission with 30% drivetrain losses.
 
Ahh, so there it is. You are going to hide behind the $500 amount? I'm pretty sure Tony never agreed to that, that's why you raised it to $1000 and Tony said make it $10,000. Depending on what you offer for travel, it doesn't appear like you want to race him has much as he wants to race you.
 
Ahh, so there it is. You are going to hide behind the $500 amount? I'm pretty sure Tony never agreed to that, that's why you raised it to $1000 and Tony said make it $10,000. Depending on what you offer for travel, it doesn't appear like you want to race him has much as he wants to race you.
Over and over again, Tony wanted to stick to the original challenge. He even quoted it in his own post. If you have a problem with it, you'd better talk to Tony about it.

And please don't come back and say you want to change something. :rolleyes:
 
I just went back and re-read it. Tony agreed to the TERMS but never agreed to the AMOUNT. Why else would you have raised it to $1000? Then Tony told you it had to be much higher then that just to cover costs. Heck, Tony even agreed to race you with your rules. You are sooo transparent. If you are not afraid to race him, then all that's left is to negotiate the amount and make this happen.
 
It's really very simple. I'm just scared. The rest is just BS.

I wouldn't presume to represent him. Unlike us, Tony was working and didn't have time to post. I was just trying to help you get your wish. You were pretty adament how you wanted to race him. My only purpose was to try and negotiate an agreement between the two of you so this race could happen. I don't think there's a person on this board that doesn't want to see that.
You stated "take it or leave it". Did you review the previous posts? TONY SAID HE WOULD RACE YOU. All that you guys had left to do is work out the money. If you are retreating back to the $500 amount, which Tony never agreed to, then you have really shown your true colors and you don't really want to race him.
 
Wow! I'd drag my shit anywhere in the country for $10,000! And I know I would have no chance for the other $10,000.

I agree it would be cool to see this happen.
 
Wow! I'd drag my shit anywhere in the country for $10,000! And I know I would have no chance for the other $10,000.

I agree it would be cool to see this happen.

That seems to be the general consensus, John. That's why I think we can make this race happen. See you in BG.
 
I'm sitting here a little perplexed. Cal. Are you trying to step in and inject yourself as the promoter of this possible match race? :confused:
 
Don, I will extend the offer of for the $1000 I was going to give you to show up to Bowling Green to show up and race against Tony out this way. No stipulations to this money other than stage next to Tony and it is yours. I know you have had other offers too and I would bet your fuel will paid for or close to it. I had an idea tonight as well while I was fixing the washing machine. I found $3.57 in the washing machine. I will add any found money to the $1000 between now and the race. I am figuring that by the time you finally race Tony (if ever), my contribution to the race will considerable. Right now I am at $1003.57 but I have a rebate from a laptop I bought for $50 coming any day. Rather than blowing it on something silly like going to the movies with the family or saving it, I will set it aside for you.

Just to keep this straight, found money means:
Money found unexectedly (obviously)
rebates (when I remember to send them in, that's how thwy get you)
money owed to me for over a year and finally collected (good luck)
scrap money when I clean up the yard around the shop (huge)
my kids allowances when they don't pick up sticks (even huger)
tips I recieve from customers (not so huge, but once in a while)
discounts on my car insurance (my driving record is pretty damn good)
 
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