Doest matter what it is, respect the fact that fast cars come in all shapes and sizes, some ugly, some cool and some detined for greatness (GN). Each has their own medicine. Gn's are really good in 1/4, and WRX is good in the twisties. Who cares, run it or shut it, NO excuses. There is always someone faster outBuikGN87 said:I had to comment on this thread.Owning both cars. . heres the deal.I love my GN and I love my STi. This is my 2nd 87GN.Running 12.8's with DR's and 13 flat on the TA's.I went from a car with the least traction to a car with the best traction. Complete opposites in the own right.
A warmed over GN (Turbo Buick) for the t-type guys will stay or beat a stock STi. Like written the STi is way harder to drive and frankly isnt a drag car period. With AWD the trap speed suffers. .feels like a brake between shifts. . and having to shift into 5th at the end of the 1/4 mile. Also 0-60 requires a shift into 3rd mind you. Lots of shifting. . losing 10ths doing it. The GN is just a blast. . espeically with the clutch switch to launch. Powerbrake. .to spool and let off brake. . mash gas down. . computer shifts at 5,000 for ya.. .nice shift kit. Running low 13's.
My 87GN was $18,800 brand new. . capable of hitting 13.8 stock (October weather and hooking up) but more like 14.2 in the summer . Doesnt brake or handle all that good. . drum brakes in rear. . C'mon. . cant drive in the rain without wrecking it. Now the 87GNX with 300HP was $29,995 in 1987!!! and ran 13.3's stock. . just like my 04STi . .sticker $30,995. 17 years newer. . AWD, Brembo's that can stop you and 10 other cars behind you. 13" rotors,(ABS/EBD . . .Center Diff (DCCD). . Air bags. .tops out at 147 stock. .and will hit a .91 on the skid. and 10X more pollution controls. . .A real dash board ( not laim like my 87GN's ). My STis 2.5 litres=150 cubic inches. GN 3.8 litres=231 cubes. So basically the STi makes 75hp per cylinder (stock) on same pump gas. Im running mild tune which is reflased ECU (Cobb AP) and 3" catted D/P. .and putting out a sweet 350HP& 385lbs with a flat 4. Must give credit where credit is due. The Buick is still "Bad to the Bone" and ill always have my GN. . highlty respected and the STi is gaining respect as you read this. I know id think twice about messing with a Turbo Buick in my STi. . when my Buick is resting through these Upstate, NY winters. . I take out the rice aka: $30,000 snowmobile and have a blast. . thats what its all about. :biggrin: I have fun with both. . just as many looks in both. . but the all black paint and chrome rims. . orange parking lights. . .still sends chills through my spine. My STi is more boy racer. . flashy. .spoilers. . 4" hood scope. . HID's. .I/C sprayer. . and ironing board on back.
BuikGN87 said:Thats funny. . .STi slower than stock turbo Buick. Next youll tell me that the GN's. . say the quickest year 87 . . not 86 with the chrome on the grill. . will also beat the AWD GMC Syclone right?
Read Motor Trend? just tested the 2006 STI . .so you know it ran a 13.0 flat. Fact. . STi has a better HP-weight ratio. . how do you like those apples???
Fact: Japanese cars outlast american cars. . due to better quality. So how did your non clear coat paint hold up. . over the years? Also the 3.8 turbo with the plastic timing chain teeth and inadequate oil pressure are good for 60-100,000 miles if your lucky. If the PCV didnt pressurize the pan and blow out the GM rope type rear main. On the other hand. . Japanese. . and unique boxer engine will run for 200,000 +miles. Subaru,Porsche and BMW motorcycles use the horizontally opposed design. . whats that tell you? Smaller package delivers more punch then 3.8V-6!. . lower center of gravity too. (thats right. . your car goes 1,320 ft in a perfectly level dry paved track)
My STi's AWD is standard. . .the limited slip diff was an option on the Turbo Buick. . code (G 80) I believe. . where you going with that? 1 wheel peel.. .245HP / 355 lbs going to A single 215/65 rear tire. Talk all you want about power this and that. . .power is nothing without traction. Im hooking up on 100% of the time.
ps Bryan. .read this shootout. . STi spanks 400HP RWD GM V8 :Read this and weep
BuikGN87 said:
Quick6'n'-K.C. said:
, so that would be a bad idea). Now, the clutchs can and do go out fairly easily, depending on the driver. Mine lasted 30k miles with over 50 times down the 1/4 mile, and I ride the clutch longer than most b/c in an AWD car it is better to destroy your clutch than your transmission. I beat the piss outta my 341awhp STi, launches, road rallies, breaking the tires loose from a roll, etc.. and the trans felt like it did from day one.
