Some interesting military stuff...

[TURBOTWIN2]

WHAT DO LEE MARVIN, CAPTAIN KANGAROO AND MR. ROGERS HAVE IN
COMMON?

You Would Never Have Guessed

Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 as age 76 , which is odd,
because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27 ) His death reminded me of the following story.

Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried
in a grave alongside 3- and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery .
His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else.
Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the
heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing
answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps
experiences. In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee
Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Crossat Iwo Jima There is only
one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor!

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he
credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee
Marvin Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you
were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ...and that during the
course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

"Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross
for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting
shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But,Johnny, at
Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the Cross
the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in
comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his
troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by,
with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target
of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than
one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.

That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off
Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me,
lying on my belly on the litter and said, "Where'd they get you Lee?"
"Well Bob... if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"
Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew.

The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain
Kangaroo."

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on
PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least
suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr.
Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five
confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to
cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small
arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat.

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and
therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating
the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in
life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his
quiet wit and charm.

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about
their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect
and the freedoms that we all enjoy.

Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.
Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on
your side if anything ever happened.

Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With
encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr.Rogers.

 

[turbo nasty]

Not quite the truth

Lee marvin

snopes.com: Captain Kangaroo and Lee Marvin

Mr. rogers

snopes.com: Mister Rogers

 

[TURBOTWIN2]

Dam, shot down in flames!
Next, you're gonna tell me there's no Santa Claus.
Made for a good story though.

Never mind.

 

[turbo nasty]

:biggrin: I actually was surprised as well

 

[charlief1]

There were many of the "hollywood" elite that were in combat and it is a shame that we forget them. Audie Murphy is just one of them and they should be recognized as HEROES, every one of them. This is ashamed by those of us that have searved but it IS true. Once the Viet Nam era came into the picture we had liberals that downplayed what has happened and Jayne Fondle (spelled it that way for a reason btw) did her sh!t we should have hung her for it. I'm sorry if this offends any of you but I did my time as did my father before me. Mine was easy compaired to his.

 

[SS_Sean]

I realize the story isn't true and it's a shame someone felt the need to slander Lee's true story. I don't care if Lee was a corpsman, or a rifleman on the front, or a pfc slopping sh!t-on-a-shingle onto marine trays in the mess hall. He served in the great war and he is a hero from start to finish.

 

[benoitthegr8]

An email I recieved just today, on a different note....

THIS WAS WRITTEN BY A SOLDIER IN IRAQ.

Okay, I need to rant. I was just watching the news, and I caught part of
a report on Michael Jackson . As we all know, Jackson died the other day.
He was an entertainer who performed for decades. He made millions, he
spent millions, and he did a lot of things that make him a villian to many
people. I understand that his death would affect a lot of people, and I
respect those people who mourn his death, but that isn't the point of my
rant.

Why is it that when ONE man dies, the whole of America loses their minds
with grief. When a man dies whose only contribution to the country was to
ENTERTAIN people, the Amercian people find the need to flock to a memorial
in Hollywood , and even Congress sees the need to hold a "moment of
silence" for his passing?

Am I missing something here? ONE man dies, and all of a sudden he's a
freaking martyr because he entertained us for a few decades? What about
all those SOLDIERS who have died to give us freedom? All those Soldiers
who, knowing that they would be asked to fight in a war, still raised
their hands and swore to defend the Constitution and the United States of
America . Where is their moment of silence? Where are the people flocking to their graves or memorials and mourning over them because they made the
ultimate sacrifice? Why is it when a Soldier dies, there are more people
saying "good ridence," and "thank God for IEDs?" When did this country
become so calloused to the sacrifice of GOOD MEN and WOMEN, that they can
arbitrarily blow off their deaths, and instead, throw themselves into
mourning for a "Pop Icon?" I think that if they are going to hold a moment
of silence IN CONGRESS for Michael Jackson, they need to hold a moment of
silence for
every service member killed in Iraq and Afghanistan . They need to
PUBLICLY recognize every life that has been lost so that the American
people can live their callous little lives in the luxury and freedom that
WE, those that are living and those that have gone on, have provided for
them. But, wait, that would take too much time, because there have been so
many willing to make that sacrifice. After all, we will never make millions of dollars. We will never star in movies, or write hit songs that
the world will listen too. We only shed our blood, sweat and tears so that
people can enjoy what they have.

Sorry if I have offended, but I needed to say it. Feel free to pass this
along if you want.

Remember these five words the next time you think of someone who is
serving in the military; "So that others may live..."


Isaac

Only two people have ever effectively given their lives for you. Jesus
Christ and The American G.I. One died for your sins, the other died to
give you freedom.

 

[we4turbo]

at least Georgia thanks them

Killed in action the week before, the body of Sergeant First Class John C. Beale was returned to Falcon Field in Peachtree City , Georgia , just south of Atlanta , on June 11, 2009 . The Henry County Police Department escorted the procession to the funeral home in McDonough , Georgia . A simple notice in local papers indicated the road route to be taken and the approximate time.

http://blip.tv/play/AYGJ5h6YgmE

 

[Rodimus_Prime]

The war in Iraq has never had anything to do with American freedom in any way shape or form. If anything its oppressed the American taxpayer with a huge bill for nothing in return.

If you choose to sacrifice your life for a people (not US citizens) that will not hesitate to stab the US in the back at first chance, its your own mistake. Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you.

Its no different than Vietnam, no business being there, waste of human life and taxpayer money all in the name of "stopping the spread of communism'. Same song and dance just substituted with "terrorism".

Its all political fear mongering to trick people into thinking that theres actually a purpose. It's not Team America World Police, let the rest of the world deal with its own problems theres more than enough piling up here that aren't being addressed. You know things like social security, hell with all the money wasted in Iraq they could have fixed that, you know for people that actually are retired and fought in a war that actually had something to do with American freedom.

Think anyone else would lift a finger to help this country in a time of need? Forget about it. This country is too concerned with its PR and public image that it ignores the concerns of its own citizens. When the Tsunami hit there were American ships there the next day. When Katrina hit ppl were dying in the streets for days before anyone ever showed up. Where were the soldiers sacrificing anything for those people?

 

[TURBOTWIN2]

The war in Iraq has never had anything to do with American freedom in any way shape or form. If anything its oppressed the American taxpayer with a huge bill for nothing in return.

Speaking of huge bills with nothing in return, are you aware of the current & future looting of the American treasury?

If you choose to sacrifice your life for a people (not US citizens) that will not hesitate to stab the US in the back at first chance, its your own mistake. Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you.

I don't think any soldier CHOSE to sacrifice his life.

Its no different than Vietnam, no business being there, waste of human life and taxpayer money all in the name of "stopping the spread of communism'. Same song and dance just substituted with "terrorism".

I agree, but why are we escalating in Afghanistan again?

Its all political fear mongering to trick people into thinking that theres actually a purpose. It's not Team America World Police, let the rest of the world deal with its own problems theres more than enough piling up here that aren't being addressed. You know things like social security, hell with all the money wasted in Iraq they could have fixed that, you know for people that actually are retired and fought in a war that actually had something to do with American freedom.

Do you actually think the current powers in Washington, D.C. care about Social Security?

Think anyone else would lift a finger to help this country in a time of need? Forget about it. This country is too concerned with its PR and public image that it ignores the concerns of its own citizens. When the Tsunami hit there were American ships there the next day. When Katrina hit ppl were dying in the streets for days before anyone ever showed up. Where were the soldiers sacrificing anything for those people?

Blame the Governor & Mayor for Katrina.

Thanks for ruining some good posts.

 

[charlief1]

What I want to say and where this thread is located don't go together. I'll let some one else beat you up. If you've never served you'd never understand, and that's a sad fact.

 

[SS_Sean]

The war in Iraq has never had anything to do with American freedom in any way shape or form. If anything its oppressed the American taxpayer with a huge bill for nothing in return.

If you choose to sacrifice your life for a people (not US citizens) that will not hesitate to stab the US in the back at first chance, its your own mistake. Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you.

Its no different than Vietnam, no business being there, waste of human life and taxpayer money all in the name of "stopping the spread of communism'. Same song and dance just substituted with "terrorism".

Its all political fear mongering to trick people into thinking that theres actually a purpose. It's not Team America World Police, let the rest of the world deal with its own problems theres more than enough piling up here that aren't being addressed. You know things like social security, hell with all the money wasted in Iraq they could have fixed that, you know for people that actually are retired and fought in a war that actually had something to do with American freedom.

Think anyone else would lift a finger to help this country in a time of need? Forget about it. This country is too concerned with its PR and public image that it ignores the concerns of its own citizens. When the Tsunami hit there were American ships there the next day. When Katrina hit ppl were dying in the streets for days before anyone ever showed up. Where were the soldiers sacrificing anything for those people?

Were you standing in the airport spitting on the returning GI's? Sounds like it. God bless America and her troops no matter the war, or the politics involved!!

 

[benoitthegr8]

The war in Iraq has never had anything to do with American freedom in any way shape or form. If anything its oppressed the American taxpayer with a huge bill for nothing in return.

If you choose to sacrifice your life for a people (not US citizens) that will not hesitate to stab the US in the back at first chance, its your own mistake. Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you.

Its no different than Vietnam, no business being there, waste of human life and taxpayer money all in the name of "stopping the spread of communism'. Same song and dance just substituted with "terrorism".

Its all political fear mongering to trick people into thinking that theres actually a purpose. It's not Team America World Police, let the rest of the world deal with its own problems theres more than enough piling up here that aren't being addressed. You know things like social security, hell with all the money wasted in Iraq they could have fixed that, you know for people that actually are retired and fought in a war that actually had something to do with American freedom.

Think anyone else would lift a finger to help this country in a time of need? Forget about it. This country is too concerned with its PR and public image that it ignores the concerns of its own citizens. When the Tsunami hit there were American ships there the next day. When Katrina hit ppl were dying in the streets for days before anyone ever showed up. Where were the soldiers sacrificing anything for those people?

The fact that you have your own opinion and can type it from your home freely without any type of prosecution or recourse may just be the ideology behind some of those people who have died that you don't feel sorry for... If you are so passionate in you feelings and will not stand behind the troops surely you have the conviction of words to stand in front of them. Most likely not i would bet my paycheck on. Your welcome for spilling my own American blood on foreign soil, I'm glad you exercise your freedoms without any clue in the galaxy as to why you might even have them....

OIF Veteran

By the way we mobilized troops to support Katrina

 

[need boost]

The war in Iraq has never had anything to do with American freedom in any way shape or form. If anything its oppressed the American taxpayer with a huge bill for nothing in return.

If you choose to sacrifice your life for a people (not US citizens) that will not hesitate to stab the US in the back at first chance, its your own mistake. Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you.

Its no different than Vietnam, no business being there, waste of human life and taxpayer money all in the name of "stopping the spread of communism'. Same song and dance just substituted with "terrorism".

The war in Iraq has never had anything to do with American freedom in any way shape or form. If anything its oppressed the American taxpayer with a huge bill for nothing in return
REALLY, I quess that was an american that crashed the planes into the twin towers ?? and the nothing you get in return is being able to sleep at night without one crashing into your house and killing your family, I would say that is a lot more than nothing!
Don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you.
I don't think there is a soldier anywhere that would want your feeling sorry for them, they are protecting your right to feel whatever you want!
Its no different than Vietnam, no business being there, waste of human life and taxpayer money all in the name of "stopping the spread of communism'. Same song and dance just substituted with "terrorism"
Not even going here but to say my dad came home with 6 bullets in his legs to idiots at the airport bitching at him, they should have been shot is the way I feel about it!!!!!! He didn't want to go, none of them did but they did and thats the way they get treated when they get home?? If they wanted to bitch they should have been doing it at the goverment, Not the soldiers that had to do what they said !!!! And Jane fonda should have been hanged at a public hanging !

AND to those that served and still serve THANK YOU for keeping my family safe! Daniel Ray

 

[Rodimus_Prime]

Where's Osama?

Let him go and take out Saddam who had nothing to do with it. The guys who crashed the plane weren't from Iraq either btw.

Iraq never had anything to do with 9/11, Bush merely used it to take military action and the American people were so desperate for revenge they bought into it until now when people see it for the lie that it is.

Theres nothing worse than dying in a meaningless war, thats the real sad thing here. It's also sad that people don't make better choices and pay the price with thier own life. Everyone has a choice, I wouldn't ever give one drop of spit for Iraq or their people much less give my life for them.

Blind following of your leaders or orders has led to some of the greatest horrors in the history of mankind.

 

[TURBOTWIN2]

Rodimus, I didn't really like the some of the stuff, the previous administration did. I really, really don't like a lot of what the current administration is doing or attempting to do.
I believe Bush started us down the Road to destruction and Obama has continued the same path under accelaration.
Where do you stand on this current administration?

Your chance to exercise your First Amendment rights, guaranteed by the U.S. Soldier.

 

[Rodimus_Prime]

I think its a bit early to tell. The economy wasn't screwed up in 6 months, I don't expect it to be fixed in that amount of time. I'm not a fan of the spend a ton of money and being wasteful that seems to be going on. I think the entire GM thing was handled wrong.

The good thing is there hasn't been any new wars started or attacks. North Korea and Iran are a far greater threat than Iraq or Afghanistan ever will be.

I'm not a fan of this global economy. 50 years ago this country was self sustaining. Everything wasn't made in China. It had some focus, it wasn't worried about what the rest of the world would think and being so damn PC. It led by example not by posture. JFK said we're going to the moon and to hell with anyone or anything else that gets in the way and it was done. Instead of "country first" being a campaign slogan, it should be the goal of everyone in political office.

 

[benoitthegr8]

Theres nothing worse than dying in a meaningless war, thats the real sad thing here. It's also sad that people don't make better choices and pay the price with thier own life. Everyone has a choice, I wouldn't ever give one drop of spit for Iraq or their people much less give my life for them.

Blind following of your leaders or orders has led to some of the greatest horrors in the history of mankind.

So your saying that People who make a decision to serve their country voluntarily during a war have made a poor choice? With that said I can sum up in the event of a draft it's ok? Enjoy your freedoms and opinions no matter how idiotic they are.... please pay your taxes so I may still protect your freedoms and in the event of a draft please run to Canada.... I would not like to serve in combat side by side anyone with your typing ability but lack of sacrifice.... UNSUBSCRIBED

 

[Audie1]

Where's Osama?

Let him go and take out Saddam who had nothing to do with it. The guys who crashed the plane weren't from Iraq either btw.

Iraq never had anything to do with 9/11, Bush merely used it to take military action and the American people were so desperate for revenge they bought into it until now when people see it for the lie that it is.

Theres nothing worse than dying in a meaningless war, thats the real sad thing here. It's also sad that people don't make better choices and pay the price with thier own life. Everyone has a choice, I wouldn't ever give one drop of spit for Iraq or their people much less give my life for them.

Blind following of your leaders or orders has led to some of the greatest horrors in the history of mankind.

Maybe Iraq did not have any direct connections with 9/11.......but the pic I received several years back (from a friend that was in Iraq) tells us that Sadam was over joyed about the attack. I'm sure that the painting on the Bill Board below, was not put up without Sadam's OK.........I can't say that I agreed with everything that Bush Jr's Administration did, but as a former US Army Soldier (SFC/E7-16R40) I went where ever I was directed to go, and did whatever we had to do. It doesn't really matter what our Military Personnel are tasked to do, as it all boils down to us "Fighting for the Right's and Freedom's that you enjoy today"..........Had our Military been weak, we would be under the rule of some A-Hole, and we would probably be "HileHitlering" even today, with little or No Rights..............So I for one Thank God that I am an American!

 

[ROYAL_6]

Where's Osama?
Let him go and take out Saddam who had nothing to do with it. The guys who crashed the plane weren't from Iraq either btw.
Iraq never had anything to do with 9/11, Bush merely used it to take military action and the American people were so desperate for revenge they bought into it until now when people see it for the lie that it is.
Theres nothing worse than dying in a meaningless war, thats the real sad thing here. It's also sad that people don't make better choices and pay the price with thier own life. Everyone has a choice, I wouldn't ever give one drop of spit for Iraq or their people much less give my life for them.
Blind following of your leaders or orders has led to some of the greatest horrors in the history of mankind.

ive heard this same song sang(complainig/crying) many times before by different people. Whats funny, is that when 9/11 happen, everyone was a proud American. Waving flags back and forth, wearing shirts, hats, ech that had some thing to do with USA. It was a trend to be and American, a trend to support your troops. After the chaos of 9/11 everyone wanted revenge. When Bush Jr said we were going to war, everyone supported him and applouded him. Fast forward a few years later, its the apposite.. Now the trend is to cry about the war. To spit on the soldiers and protest at their funerals. Tell what have you done for this country? Quit your complaining, do something about the problems that are going on. You dont agree with the war, but what HAVE YOU done to try to bring it to an end??

Support your Troops....

Either STAND BEHIND them, or STAND INFRONT of them...