SICK 87 Turbo T, G-machine, tons invested, needs trans, $11k FIRM, NJ

[nighthawk355x]

Starting a new thread just to un-clutter the old one, which was 4 pages long.:biggrin:

87 Turbo T hardtop, 81k original miles, Maroon w/redone Maroon interior, rare digital cluster, power windows, power locks, ac, cruise, nothing gutted, the car's INSANE!!! As it sits I blew away a C6 vette from a 60 roll 2 times. It's never seen the track or a dyno for that matter but comparing it to my old LS6 powered TA that had full bolt-ons and a tune...this car's faster.

The Bad:
-car needs a trans, it's slipping as of now. I changed the fluid a while back and it helped a little, but hasn't cured the problem. My GN guru buddy said the trans looks like it has some aftermarket parts in it but I have no idea what he said they were besides the valve body.
-has 1 rust spot when you open the driver's door at the bottom of the a-pillar, other then that the entire car is SOLID.
-1 spot where the paint started to come off on the corner of the hood

It's obvious I'm going to take a hit on the car, seeing as I just paid $13.5k for it, but I dropped as low as I'll go without removing parts. I'm looking for $11k FIRM, those of you who know these cars know this is a STEAL! My e-mail is venomsvtcobra@aol.com, my cell is 848-250-3006.

Originally I was accepting trades under the idea that I wanted a trade of equal value, not junk offers, which turned out to be all I was getting. I had people wanting to trade me worthless cars with tons of mileage and NO CASH. That and 99.99% of the people who wanted to trade would e-mail me once and I'd never hear back. Thus far NO ONE has seen this car in person.

That in mind, NO TRADES. Don't waste my time, please. If you have cash and you want a sick car, let me know.


Exterior Modifications:
-High Quality Repaint (done years back but still looks good, whole front end was removed to paint, pass fender needs to be aligned a bit, door rubs slightly)
-Shaved Emblems
-Lowered
-Fiberglass Front Bumper
-Paint-to-match Bumpers
-17" ROH Wheels (powdercoated black)
-Smoked Parking Light Covers
-20% Tint All Around
-Black Trim
-Repainted Satin Headlight/Taillight Bezels
-Repainted Grill
-Full Stainless Headlight/Tail Light Hardware, no rusted screws
-Turbo 6 Logo Center Caps
-BFG KDW Tires (7k miles)

Interior Modifications:
-Completely reupholstered interior, headliner/seats/carpet/etc (not cheap)
-Single A Pillar Gauge Pod
-Dual Console Gauge Pod
-Billet Console Panels
-Billet Shift Knob
-Billet Buick Racing Dash Panel
-Carpeted Turbo 6 Logo Trunk Panels

Under Hood:
-TA Performance Black Billet Valve Covers
-Metco Dual Valve Cover Breather Filters w/Billet Necks

Performance:
-Forged Stock Displacement Bottom End
-Ported Stock Heads
-Copper Head Gaskets
-TE44 Turbo
-42.5 Injectors
-Sheet Metal Intake
-4" Custom CAI Setup
-Center Mount Lower Scoop
-Tial Wastegate
-218/221 Cam
-Turbo Tweak Chip
-Razors Alky Injection (in-car adjustment)
-ATR Stainless 4" Down Pipe
-ATR 3" Single Shot Cat-Back Exhaust
-Random Tech 3" Cat
-Manual Boost Controller (currently set to 25psi)

Suspension/Chassis:
-100% Rebuilt Front End (pitman arm/idler arm/center link/tie rod ends)
-Flaming River Quick Ratio Steering Box
-Howe Low Friction Ball Joints
-QA1 Adjustable Front Coilovers w/500lb Springs
-Hotchkis Rear Springs
-ATR Adjustable Tubular Front Upper/Lower A-arms
-Pole Position Upper Rear Control Arms
-Spohn Tubular Lower Rear Control Arms
-Energy Suspension Poly Body Mounts
-Kirban Front Frame Braces
-Drilled/Slotted Front Rotors
-Lightweight Aluminum Calipers
-Stainless brake Lines
-Hawk Brake Pads (very agressive, some squeel associated with these, my plan was to change them if it bothered me)

Drivetrain:
-9" 3200 Stall Converter
-3" Carbonfiber Driveshaft ($1000 by itself)
-Stock 10 Bolt w/3:42's

Electronics:
-Scanmaster
-Brand New ECU
-New Powermaster 200amp Alternator
-Headlight Brightening Kit
-Caspers Electronics Engine Wiring Harness (professionally installed February)
-All Wiring Redone
-New Cam Sensor
-New Crank Sensor
-New TPS Sensor
-Autometer Boost Gauge
-Autometer Oil Pressure Gauge
-Autometer Water Temp Gauge
-Sony X-plod Flip Out CD Player
-2 10" JL Audio Subs
-Optima Yellow Top Battery

So again, negatives: Trans slips. I'm sure it'll last quite a while like this but as I said I have ZERO money right now. Passenger door rubs the fender a bit, just needs the fender re-aligned, 6"x3" spot of paint missing on hood, and blower motor is shot. Not terrible things really, most are dirt cheap to fix. I'm just trying to be upfront about it.

Will include both an aftermarket front mount intercooler, and set of stainless headers, both BRAND NEW, never on a car. No, I won't sell them seperate. If I don't sell the car then they'll get installed on it.

Paint is nice, body is straight, body & frame are solid.

Vids:
YouTube - nighthawk355x's Channel

 

[nighthawk355x]

Bump...what am i doing wrong here?? I'm sure I'm being more than reasonable. Haven't had a single bite. What gives??

 

[Machran]

Dude, 11k for a car with a banged up tranny seems a little steep. Also I think the black wheels are a love/hate thing.
It's just my opinion, remember you asked.

 

[nighthawk355x]

Well, I paid $13.5k for it when it was running PERFECT. And I had to beat 3 people out of it. Considering the overall condition of the car aside from the single thing it needs I don't think I'm being unfair.

Find me one with the work this has in it anywhere's near the price. Everyone has a drag setup. 11 second GN's & T-types are a dime a dozen. They can't take turns worht a damn.

This car has top of the line EVERYTHING, forged motor, suspension that was done THE RIGHT WAY and that will make it the best of ALL worlds, which beleive it or not is tough to come by, complete repaint(disassembled & painted), 100% redone interior, etc.

Can you find cheaper? Sure can. Will you find one set up like this? Nope. Hence my confusion.

Even if you find a drag setup and then try to duplicate the setup on this car, by the time you're done you'll have spent almost $4k getting the parts, putting them in, and getting everything setup 100% correct. Most people suffer from ****ty ride, alignment issues, and just an overall crappy suspension. Not so with this.

Just my opinion. I know what else is out there. None compare to this car's setup.

 

[sullen]

Dude, 11k for a car with a banged up tranny seems a little steep. Also I think the black wheels are a love/hate thing.
It's just my opinion, remember you asked.

you hit that dead on,
im actually in the market for a T.

the wheels, i don't care for at all.
so need to figure on 1500+ for new wheels and tires

+ a few more g's for a built tranny.

adds up... on top of 11k for the purchase

 

[nighthawk355x]

you hit that dead on,
im actually in the market for a T.

the wheels, i don't care for at all.
so need to figure on 1500+ for new wheels and tires

+ a few more g's for a built tranny.

adds up... on top of 11k for the purchase

I hear you on the trans. But as i said I'm already $2500 off what I paid, not including the almost $2k I've dumped into it since then, plus the spare parts I'm tossing in. I've had the car around 7 months and haven't driven it almost AT ALL. The car's about as close to a frame-off you get without actually being one. Only part on the car that hasn't been touched was the trans, obviously. Like I said, you can look and find cheaper, but it won't have half what this does. I've honestly NEVER seen one setup like this.

The wheels are take it or leave it. Who likes them isn't my concern. If the buyer wants different wheels they can sell these and buy them. I'm not taking ANYTHING off because someone doesn't like the wheels.

If anything, I'll throw cheap stockers on it and sell the wheels myself. You can't even buy ROH in the states anymore, so they're not cheapo wheels.

 

[Machran]

I agree with most of what you said. It appears to be a great car. It also seems to me that the market has spoken. There just isn't much demand for a G machine Regal. Good luck with the sale.

 

[nighthawk355x]

I agree with most of what you said. It appears to be a great car. It also seems to me that the market has spoken. There just isn't much demand for a G machine Regal. Good luck with the sale.

It may be an acquired taste thing. Straight line is great but I'd rather not feel like I'm going to fly out the door every time I take a turn at speed.

This car's more for people that want a car that doesn't handle like, well...a Buick.:biggrin:

 

[V8killR4U]

It may be an acquired taste thing. Straight line is great but I'd rather not feel like I'm going to fly out the door every time I take a turn at speed.

This car's more for people that want a car that doesn't handle like, well...a Buick.:biggrin:

Very nice car no doubt! I simply think potential buyers are turned away with coming off 11K then having to drop another 2500 into a trans...I understand your handling upgrades, but it doesnt seem like the market is willing to pay for it. With the economy in the state its in people are looking for deals, not saying this isnt, but as stated before looks like the market has spoken. I would try taking some off the price and keeping your parts and trying to sell them to make up the difference a lil bit.

 

[ryan319]

just a thought. you might be better off fixing the trans and marketing it with the stock wheels. just some ideas if you really want to move it. or just lower the price.

 

[nighthawk355x]

I might be able to move at this point, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I take like $9k for it. Forum market doesn't count as a realistic market, and til now that's the only place I've had this up. Everyone on a forum expects to pay $2k for a car in showroom condition and whines & cries if it needs windshield wipers. I was told by numerous people that people here were cheap but holy crap!!

If I had to beat people out of it for $13.5k in working order(in august), the market's obviously out there. I just don't get how I'm being unreasonable. If I wait, then I wait. Such is life. Eventually someone will come along that recognizes that this car isn't like the others here. Someone out there must want a car that's done RIGHT.

 

[zam70]

The one MAJOR problem I see is, you state it is "almost" a frame off and it has a "high quality paint job" yet, it has a rust spot on the body and paint is peeling on the hood - Major red flag.

I know you paid 13k, but a car is worth only what some one is willing to pay.

A few years back, I had mine advertised for 16k (extra parts, engines etc AND it had an absolute show quality paint job w/leather interior) and had a few bites but ended up selling for much less....a car is worth what the market says it is worth.
Also, when it comes to a "custom", you have to find a buyer who likes the customization, Not easy.

your car has some very nice and thought out mods but, the market is the market.
good luck!

 

[ryan319]

I might be able to move at this point, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I take like $9k for it. Forum market doesn't count as a realistic market, and til now that's the only place I've had this up. Everyone on a forum expects to pay $2k for a car in showroom condition and whines & cries if it needs windshield wipers. I was told by numerous people that people here were cheap but holy crap!!

If I had to beat people out of it for $13.5k in working order(in august), the market's obviously out there. I just don't get how I'm being unreasonable. If I wait, then I wait. Such is life. Eventually someone will come along that recognizes that this car isn't like the others here. Someone out there must want a car that's done RIGHT.

the point raised about the paint peeling is very valid. i understand that you're being honest about the car but you're asking top dollar for a car with high quality peeling paint, misaligned body panels and a bum tranny. you'll either need to fix these things or lower the price if you really want to sell the car.

not trying to sound like a jerk but these are all reasons why you haven't had a single bite at your asking price.

put it up on ebay and let the bid run. that will determine what it's worth. however i think that you'll get LESS interest away from an enthusiast forum with a bad trans. maybe trying selling to the people you outbid for it in august?

 

[Grumpy]

The Bad:
My GN guru buddy said the trans looks like it has some aftermarket parts in it but I have no idea what he said they were besides the valve body.
-has 1 rust spot when you open the driver's door at the bottom of the a-pillar, other then that the entire car is SOLID.
-1 spot where the paint started to come off on the corner of the hood


have any pics of the hood and where the paint is pealing ?? pic of the rust spot ??




Exterior Modifications:
-High Quality Repaint (done years back but still looks good, whole front end was removed to paint, pass fender needs to be aligned a bit, door rubs slightly)

Any cracks on the glass front bumper ??? (just wondering why the fender was pushed back or out ???)

Performance:
-Forged Stock Displacement Bottom End

any paperwork with the build ?? What kind of crank, rods and pistons? Any paperwork as far as parts that maybe inside the trans ??


-218/221 Cam

Roller cam ??

Oh any pics of under the car ?? like the floors ???

 

[qwks6]

you may get 11K if you had perfect tranny. It may also help if you listed milage on car and on the engine with receipts of work. People see transmission problems and think that a good rebuild could cost a couple thousand dollars.

And you probably paid a bit too much.

It's been a real tough couple of years for selling used cars, I've watched as cars that went for 15-20K 5+ years ago go for 7-10K. It's too bad for sellers, good for buyers.

I'd fix the transmission and try to sell then.

That all said, good luck with the sale.

 

[asrnj77]

This (post copied and pasted below) seems like a very good deal that is pretty darn close to you..personally I like the wheels but like others you'll find the trans is holding you back and focusing on the repaint with rust and body panel issues is tough. Most people have sold a buick around here and I'm sure many of them took a hit they thought they'd never take. It will come down to how bad you want to sell it. Maybe fix the trans and drive it yourself for a while and you can always try selling again in the summer

ckperformance,in new york Ill do a stage 1 installed in your car for 1499.00.BILLET FORWARD DRUM BILLET SERVO STANDARD ON THE REBUILD.drive in and drive out in under 2 hours.have the trans in stock and ready to go.
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[justin84]

JUST KEEP THE DAMN THING! You are not happy with hearing what others are saying and there is a ton of buts it's got and but it would only cost you .... to fix, so just keep it. If you don't like what you are hearing then keep it. It sounds like you like it anyways. Also, I actually like the rims :biggrin:

 

[19TTA89]

I might be able to move at this point, but it'll be a cold day in hell before I take like $9k for it. Forum market doesn't count as a realistic market, and til now that's the only place I've had this up. Everyone on a forum expects to pay $2k for a car in showroom condition and whines & cries if it needs windshield wipers. I was told by numerous people that people here were cheap but holy crap!!

Cheap...I see cars that have sold for more than yours on this forum,How does that constitute for Cheap?


In all honesty...the only Whining and crying I have seen from either thread you started has been from you.

Dont take it the wrong way,You are in a Bad Market right now trying to get 11k for a car that So far nobody has been willing to pay.So..you keep Telling everyone how Great the car is...How it is Done Right...And every other Regal out there doesn't compare.I think people are a bit sick of hearing it.

You really should throw it on Ebay...On this Forum,There are guys who race,And Guys that Like Low Mile Original,Than just Guys that like Original cars...then Somewhere at the end of the list would be the G-machine regal.All the Comments that you cant believe it...Everyone must be crazy to pass it up,Or whatever arent going to sell the car any faster on this forum.

Your car falls into a very small market,A market that is just about non-existent on this Forum.

 

[hang10]

The real problem is that the 2 things that are wrong with your car are expensive to fix. $2-3k for the tranny and $5k+ to strip and paint re-paint the car.Add all that and your asking price, and you are looking at a almost $20k car.

 

[boostfreak]

Well, from my pm you know how I feel about the wheels. I'll even send you the stockers off my t if you ever feel like splitting from the ROH's.