Please read... YOUR input is needed, I'm at a loss here!

Turbo Negro

Lookin' for 10's
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Jul 5, 2012
I bought a bone stock 87 GN about a year ago with 98k mi's on the clock. The car was in decent shape, and ran well. It was all there, & it all worked.

I immediately began reading & asking questions here about restoration & upgrades. I learned alot in a short time, thanks to the TB Community.

I started with a basic spring cleaning, then went about acquiring all of the basic bolt-on's listed in my signature from vendors, & more recently from a couple of members (new trans, converter, & turbo).

I also relied on a member here, that owns a local shop, for installation of all the new parts. It didn't exactly go as well as I would have liked, but he has offered to make it up to me. And here is where your input is needed. I spent right around $5k there, spread over 3 visits. Each time my car was in the shop for 2-3 weeks.

The first phase included rebuilding the suspension, brakes, a/c, body mounts, upgrading the entire fuel system, exhaust, cold air intake, and adding alcohol injection. When I picked the car up, I was told they had accidentally swapped the front control arms on the car L to R, & had a hard time aligning it until they figured it out. Also 2 of the new body bushings could not be bolted in, so they were sandwiched in place with no bolts. I was told the alky controller had been sent back, checked out, returned, and re-installed, and was working, but with no led lights. The boost was set at 20#'s and the Alky was not spraying. By the time I got the car home, I had an audible vacuum/boost leak under the hood. 2 days later the a/c was blowing warm again.

I fixed the vac/boost leak, then trouble shot the alky system with Razor on the phone & found a bad splice on the ground wire for the controller, which I repaired.

The second phase was to fix a leaking rear main seal, replace original oil pump, & timing set. I drove the car home to find an oil leak on the filter adapter housing. I had to replace an o-ring that had been pinched during installation. I later discovered the timing chain tensioner I supplied with the new TA set had never been installed. It re-appeared in the trunk of the car during the next phase.

Phase 3: Trans, converter, Precision SLIC, & new 62/62 turbo. The converter had to be sent back, wouldn't fit the trans input shaft. A bur in the splines was found. It was repaired under warranty. Got home with the car, put on 100+ miles before getting into any boost, then at 5lbs... POP! Blew the up-pipe off. One of the T Clamps was not tightened properly. The brand new intercooler has 2-3" of fins mashed together in a few areas where it looks like someone drug a finger across them. And last but not least, the wastegate hole on the new turbo was not ported before going on.

So now what? The owner of the shop admittedly told me he is burned-out, doesn't even want to work on his own turbo Buick anymore, and has been letting his helper work virtually unsupervised on my car! He did take responsibility, apologize, & offer to make it up, though. I told him "I didn't know how, at this point I'm not really comfortable having any more work done there".

So what's all this worth??? What should or could he do to make this right?
 
You have just described what I imagine and why I work on my stuff. Sadly, these cars are not for the guy with shallow pockets. Especially now that they have gotten 25years old.
 
What still needs to be fixed is: 1) timing chain tensioner installed 2)wastegate hole on turbo needs to be ported
 
...and 3) the fact that I paid full boat for a bunch of stuff that was done half-assed, and ended up fixing it myself
 
There's actually more to the story, believe it or not. My original MAF was broke & then glued back together when they installed the cold air last year.

When I got my stock turbo back after the latest round, it looked like this...

Not quite sure how it consistently boosted to 20#'s with no noises or surging. In fact when I installed the new MAF a couple hundred miles ago, it didn't look like that.
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Wow thanks for reminding me why I love working on my cars myself.
 
You need to go to another shop that is known well on here so you don't get screwed again. That shop has no idea what they are doing. Where are you located?
 
WOW !!!!!!!!

I dont even know what to say to you...learn to work on your own car...best of luck to you.
 
See what he is willing to do and get it on paper and signed that he will only work on it. pop in on him every couple days to see whos working on it and progress made. Don't call just go. If he blows it again then out him on here and maybe a civil suit. just sayin... It's what i would do. No more money from you at all!!
 
Jesus Christ dude! Look at that Turbo!

Your first mistake was phase two.
Your second mistake was phase three.

Besides bottom end stuff there isn't much you can't do yourself with some extensive research on here and asking questions.

You've proven to be mechanically inclined by fixing what you paid to have done.

Ask for half the labor back and the money for parts they destroyed. It's worth a shot.
Any money you get back is good and call it a day.

D
 
I would cut your losses and either do it yourself or find somebody new to work on it.
x2. You can try and recoup some of your money from him but whatever you do - do not give this guy yet another opportunity to screw you over by letting him work on your car again.
 
After the first time it should have been a clue like in the movie Ammityville Horror, Get Out..... pretty plain here.
GET OUT

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Yes, I am shamed. My reason for taking the car somewhere in the first place was twofold: 1) I started my own business last year and I'm busy as hell & 2) I genuinely wanted to support the turbobuick community & make a few new friends. I guess that's why they say "nice guys finish last".

I'm actually totally disgusted it at this point. The owner is a well-known & active member, and the shop came highly recommended through this forum. They are supposed to be specialists.

I don't want to give anybody a hard time. I just want what's right. I guess I'll call and ask for some of my hard-earned money back.
 
I get supporting vendors but screw making tb friends. Go to a couple of cruises to make friends. If ure paying someone to do something 7 outta 10 times theyre not your friends. Id publish his name to help ppl avaoid him. I would just learn yourself. No greater pleasure than doing something yourself. Like said b4 so many posts and ppl on this board w knowledge willing to help. If hes a stand up guy hed give you $ back on the stuff he did not do or do right. I got burned by a major vendor here who was local and I never went back. I wont even buy parts from him and its been a good 6 years since.
 
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