bringing topic back....
I just looked at a recent issue of Car and Driver i think....talking about best cars of the US...it includes the Opel based Buick Regal, and the turbo version of it..get this, estimated weight for it is 3500-3700 pounds, 182HP/172ft lb 4 cyl dohc engine as the base engine, the turbo one is 220hp/258ft lb....nice its going to have a manual, but all other things being equal...a 3500 pound car with 182 HP 4 banger......and to think we had a 200+hp NA v6 in the later years of the fwd cars....hell, EPA estimates for it are at 18-20mpg for the turbo, 29-30 for the NA i think....wow. no one is going to fall over themselves to buy it at $28,000 to 30K depending on dealer gouging.