1st, I'm not bashing, all I said was there are no new products for hot airs, and the vendors are not making new turbo products for hot airs, and it is upsetting that they don't choose to allow us to bolt on the new tech, I'm sure I could go to any of the vendors or even some locals I know of with a blank check and get what I want, but the point is, that I shouldn't have to do that, we shouldn't have to spend extreme amounts of money on frabricating a one off turbo when we could be supported by the turbo vendors , but it seems we must not be viable market for them to produce a turbo to let us run the newest wheels like the IC cars. Just because I posted this in this thread does not mean that I have singled out this vendor, as none of the turbo vendors seem to have an up to date product to support the hot air cars.
2nd I'm not interested in flaming or being flamed even though the latter is probably going to happen....maybe not....but anyway, Maybe this thead is not the ideal place to voice the plight of the hot air cars, but it so happened that I recieved my core turbo from a friend today and am planning to send it to Limit to have it converted to a TA33, that was the plan, then we see the announcement of some more new turbos , latest tech, newest wheels, for the ic cars and its kinda like salt on an open wound. Here I am getting ready to send this core in and have it ground out and upgraded to a wheel thats been in use for over 20 years, so you see, its not any particular vendor, and it is and was meant to tell not just this vendor but all of them that the hot air cars would like a shiny new bolt up too.
I'm not trying to offend anyone, but by the same token, I'm not gonna stay quiet about it cause like I said in the earlier post, if the tables where turned and the IC cars were supported like the hot airs, I'm pretty sure most of the ic guys would have an issue with that.
And like I also said in the previous post mods can gladly move this to the new parts request thread, I have no problem with that, and would very much like to see a new turbo offered that lets the hot airs take advantage of all the inovations in turbo tech that we have missed out on. we don't need 4 new models, just one, would be a huge thing.
First off, I take no offense to your concerns and appreciate your opinion and honesty. I do think that your objections could have been said in a more appropriate forum, such as the New Product Request forum, vs blasting us in our new product announcement post. It just appears to me that your whole argument was meant to stir the pot and create all kinds of issues for not only us, but for other Turbo Buick vendors as well.
I think what some people fail to realize, is the fact that new turbo component parts availability for these cars, especially the '84/'85 applications, have dried up long ago from Garrett. The hurdles that we had to go through just to get the '86/'87 compressor covers was crazy. Not to mention the man hours it took to machine those covers for the new CEA compressor wheels. Then you add in the amount of time our engineer Dan, put into writing the programs to be able to machine them and you start to get a picture of just what it takes to be able to bring a product like this to market. Most people have no concept of just what it takes. You are right, it is a business decision as far as the amount of potential sales versus time vested, in a very small market. Especially when cores are not available.
Since 1987, this company has dedicated more time, money, testing, research and development into it's Buick turbos, than any other company out there. Not because of a huge demand, but more of a sense of loyalty. As some of you know, there are a few of us here that have a soft spot for the Turbo Buicks, but if we would not have diversified and continued to develop our product line into other applications, we would have closed the doors a long time ago. No one could have ever known 24 years ago, the continued following and support that these cars have, and continue to have today. However, one thing I've learned a long time ago is,
You can not please everyone, all of the time.
With regards to the Hot Air questions and concerns that have been brought up, Harry wanted me to propose this one question to you.
"How much extra would you be willing to pay, to have this new CEA technology put into a stock replacement '84/'85 turbo?"
I hope you can see from my stand point, that this post was merely meant to announce our latest turbo line up featuring out CEA technology. Not meant to upset the apple cart of any '84/'85 owners.
Thank you for your continued support and business.
We greatly appreciate it.
Patrick
P.S. With regards to the question about whether or not a ported shroud is available on an E cover? The ported shroud option is only available on the S cover and H cover. It is not available on the E cover.
HTH
