Not that far along yet
Once I get the gages RIGHT--one step @ a time--I will address the last hurdle.
Once I get the gages RIGHT--one step @ a time--I will address the last hurdle.
World of Motorworks GNX dash ??
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1KWIKSIX
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shifting bezel
Here's an idea....maybe way out there and not do able, but I think it may work.
If your speedo / tach openings are in proper alignment, leaving the (4) smaller gauge opening about 1/4" too far left....then would it be possible to cut the RH side of bezel off using a thin blade, (just to the immediate right of tach opening).....then remove / cut off 1/4" on the far RH end of bezel. Now take it to a fabrication shop that does ABS thermoplastic welding...(any place fabricating with plastic pipe and fitting should be able to do this, or even a place that repairs motorcyle fairings / instrument panels, etc)....have them weld in a 1/4" wide ABS strip )same thickness as the bezel, beside the tachometer opening and weld it together. Sounds like this could work. It won't affect the bump in the steering column either as it is clear of this.
Can you picture this and does it make sense?
Only problem I can see, is that now the applique may not line up with the new bezel opening orientations.
Any comments?
Just my 2cents.
Here's an idea....maybe way out there and not do able, but I think it may work.
If your speedo / tach openings are in proper alignment, leaving the (4) smaller gauge opening about 1/4" too far left....then would it be possible to cut the RH side of bezel off using a thin blade, (just to the immediate right of tach opening).....then remove / cut off 1/4" on the far RH end of bezel. Now take it to a fabrication shop that does ABS thermoplastic welding...(any place fabricating with plastic pipe and fitting should be able to do this, or even a place that repairs motorcyle fairings / instrument panels, etc)....have them weld in a 1/4" wide ABS strip )same thickness as the bezel, beside the tachometer opening and weld it together. Sounds like this could work. It won't affect the bump in the steering column either as it is clear of this.
Can you picture this and does it make sense?
Only problem I can see, is that now the applique may not line up with the new bezel opening orientations.
Any comments?
Just my 2cents.
that would be the problem
The applique would also need the same treatment--not as simple to do that. I guess you could move all 4 small holes to the left the required amount. Now you have 4 oblong holes and the retaining brackets on the rear may not have enough meat to grab. Maybe the applique would cover it. I will look into it later this week. Keep in mind I don't spend 8 hours per day on this.
The applique would also need the same treatment--not as simple to do that. I guess you could move all 4 small holes to the left the required amount. Now you have 4 oblong holes and the retaining brackets on the rear may not have enough meat to grab. Maybe the applique would cover it. I will look into it later this week. Keep in mind I don't spend 8 hours per day on this.
The_Six
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Mark was going to sell one of those set ups on his site must not have worked becuse there not on it now.
I saw them on a buick parts site but can't remember which one it was and searched for days on end.
That makes sense that they were taken off of the site and why I couldn't find them..
The_Six
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here is the thread on it http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/general-turbo-buick-tech/309808-new-dash-alternative.html
update
2 weeks today and still NO fuel gage, cable or call. No answer the 1 time I tried to call. You guys can do as you please but I would never have any dealings with this place. I have ordered the correct gage from another source--another $60-$70 and I have no idea how long of a wait as it is not a stock item--has to be ordered and made.
2 weeks today and still NO fuel gage, cable or call. No answer the 1 time I tried to call. You guys can do as you please but I would never have any dealings with this place. I have ordered the correct gage from another source--another $60-$70 and I have no idea how long of a wait as it is not a stock item--has to be ordered and made.
Dennis Kirban
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Concerning World of Motorworks -
I do know for a fact, the owner is having a major Health issue. A few years ago he lost his sight in one eye completely and last week he has suffered some issues in his remaining good eye to the point he can hardly see at all.
I am not making excuses for his product or business, but merely stating the current situation. As you can imagine this has to be quite stressful.
This is the same source that has marketed the new grilles and headlite bezels that some of you probably have purchased from various sources. The quality on them is excellent.
I do not live near him to know who else you can contact concerning any issues you have related to his products as I am sure that whoever is handling his emails/calls is probably overwhelmed at this time.
denniskirban@yahoo.com
As I learn anything new I will try and post here an update.
I do know for a fact, the owner is having a major Health issue. A few years ago he lost his sight in one eye completely and last week he has suffered some issues in his remaining good eye to the point he can hardly see at all.
I am not making excuses for his product or business, but merely stating the current situation. As you can imagine this has to be quite stressful.
This is the same source that has marketed the new grilles and headlite bezels that some of you probably have purchased from various sources. The quality on them is excellent.
I do not live near him to know who else you can contact concerning any issues you have related to his products as I am sure that whoever is handling his emails/calls is probably overwhelmed at this time.
denniskirban@yahoo.com
As I learn anything new I will try and post here an update.
I have stayed away from this particular thread for a while because of the bad taste in my mouth over this whole dash project. I certainly understand the health issues Paul was experiencing... I can't imaging possible loss of sight. We had numerous "discussions" via email (next time whenever I have issues it will be phone calls) but the customer service was flat out horrible. Delay after delay, story after story, excuse after excuse. He then told me he is a "one man band" as far as his business, didn't trust anyone so it was basically him running this business alone with no help.
But here is the clincher...
During this entire period of "excuses" he was continuing to sell products on ebay, and even some of the same parts I had problems with. So if you are not able to help me due to health, how can you continue to sell during this entire period of time? When I continued to press for an answer (with no nswers, only excuses again), I asked if I had to contact the Better Business Bureau to get an answer? He even went so far as to say "It was people like me who make him want to get out of the Buick business" I was simply trying to get responses. I have the entire email threads and if viewed, you would see my patience... and his excuses.
The point is this does not exactly bolster your credibility when you are too ill to even answer me but apparently still well enough to sell, and provide feedback to customers on ebay this whole period of time. I understand he does make some nice parts, but the overall quality of this dash was not good.
The amount of time and labor to try to make things line up properly has been beyond belief... I would not do this again, I would make a simple panel and go from there.
Bottom line is I would purchase other parts reproduced by him, but not from him directly again.
But here is the clincher...
During this entire period of "excuses" he was continuing to sell products on ebay, and even some of the same parts I had problems with. So if you are not able to help me due to health, how can you continue to sell during this entire period of time? When I continued to press for an answer (with no nswers, only excuses again), I asked if I had to contact the Better Business Bureau to get an answer? He even went so far as to say "It was people like me who make him want to get out of the Buick business" I was simply trying to get responses. I have the entire email threads and if viewed, you would see my patience... and his excuses.
The point is this does not exactly bolster your credibility when you are too ill to even answer me but apparently still well enough to sell, and provide feedback to customers on ebay this whole period of time. I understand he does make some nice parts, but the overall quality of this dash was not good.
The amount of time and labor to try to make things line up properly has been beyond belief... I would not do this again, I would make a simple panel and go from there.
Bottom line is I would purchase other parts reproduced by him, but not from him directly again.
John,
I take it you haven't resolved the issues since your last email to me back in JUNE
When I installed one of these dashes back in Jan/Feb 09' I think DJ Red Barron and I were the only ones at the time that had one. At first I thought maybe my car was a little off but since then I recieved numerous emails from people asking about fitment issues and what I had to do to get things lined up (which ended up being quite a bit) I think the problem with the setup is the molded bezel is the culprit in the alignment issue and is probably a manufacturing defect. I would hope that Paul would look into this and straighten it out by now.
I cant speak for the actual SW gauges ( as I used VDO ) but after seeing what problems they had with them I'm glad I didn't use them.
I will say I have purchased other items from Paul and haven't had any issues, but for the price this dash should bolt right in.
Matt
Dennis Kirban
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Again not to dwell on the issues concerning Paul but his mother, is currently being his "eyes" which may explain how his ebay sales continue on a cycle basis.
She has helped him in the past and we have dealt with her also.
I have no experience with his dashes at all. I can certainily understand your frustration on an expensive project like that.
Again not making excuses for him.....but if he loses his eye sight at his age its something that no one wants to be faced with.
denniskirban@yahoo.com
I know in our business almost everything goes out with directions even the 6 plug wires.
She has helped him in the past and we have dealt with her also.
I have no experience with his dashes at all. I can certainily understand your frustration on an expensive project like that.
Again not making excuses for him.....but if he loses his eye sight at his age its something that no one wants to be faced with.
denniskirban@yahoo.com
I know in our business almost everything goes out with directions even the 6 plug wires.
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Did you get the GNX speedo cable with your gage package? If so what is different between it and a stock one? I'm having trouble keeping the speedo working correctly. How did you secure the cable housing in the back of speedo, or did you just push it in untill it stopped? Are your gages accurate? Have you heard from Paul in the last 3 weeks--I have not? Do all your gage lites work? I'm worse than a 6 year old !!! Thanks--Lee
BTW, if a person switched the tach and speedo there would be no need to drill a hole in the AC duct. Did you sleeve the hole or leave it open to blow air out behind dash? I sleeved this one and sealed around the plastic sleeve. No mention of this in the limited instructions.
Did you get the GNX speedo cable with your gage package? If so what is different between it and a stock one? I'm having trouble keeping the speedo working correctly. How did you secure the cable housing in the back of speedo, or did you just push it in untill it stopped? Are your gages accurate? Have you heard from Paul in the last 3 weeks--I have not? Do all your gage lites work? I'm worse than a 6 year old !!! Thanks--Lee
BTW, if a person switched the tach and speedo there would be no need to drill a hole in the AC duct. Did you sleeve the hole or leave it open to blow air out behind dash? I sleeved this one and sealed around the plastic sleeve. No mention of this in the limited instructions.
1KWIKSIX
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GNX WOMW Dash finally done!
Well, it only took me 13 months....but I finally got around to massaging the bezel and applique and finished my installation today, (I actually drove around for a year with just the dash and gauges installed).
Although these dashes may need a little "tweaking" during the installation, when they're done.....it's one of the nicest dashes available (in my opinion). Not a project to be taken on by the faint of heart....however very do-able for those with stick-to-it-ivness. Definitely lots of preparation and work involved, (not a quick project),so be prepared to put in some time and thought.
Would like to thank Paul Castle and all the turbo buick members (you know who you are),who helped me along with this project. Your helpful knowledge and suggestions provided me the confidence and motivation to persever and get this done.
Hope your recent surgery went well Paul......the turbo buick community wishes you a full and speedy recovery!
Here's a pic of the finished product. :biggrin:
Thanks again to all,
dave
Well, it only took me 13 months....but I finally got around to massaging the bezel and applique and finished my installation today, (I actually drove around for a year with just the dash and gauges installed).
Although these dashes may need a little "tweaking" during the installation, when they're done.....it's one of the nicest dashes available (in my opinion). Not a project to be taken on by the faint of heart....however very do-able for those with stick-to-it-ivness. Definitely lots of preparation and work involved, (not a quick project),so be prepared to put in some time and thought.
Would like to thank Paul Castle and all the turbo buick members (you know who you are),who helped me along with this project. Your helpful knowledge and suggestions provided me the confidence and motivation to persever and get this done.
Hope your recent surgery went well Paul......the turbo buick community wishes you a full and speedy recovery!
Here's a pic of the finished product. :biggrin:
Thanks again to all,
dave
