Timing Chain/Valve Springs

[PSID6]

Weber carries a nice timing set with billet gears for $70 Buick V6 Replacement Timing Chain Set STD

 

[Odog87]

Whats the cost to have a shop change your valve springs and timing chain? I don't think Im up for that big of a project yet Im still learning.

 

[Browndog]

The problem with the double roller replacement timing sets in that price range is they all use a cast cam gear which wears very fast. Within 3-5000 miles there will be a lots of chain stretch, and you cannot use a chain tensioner with a double roller. :frown:

The less expensive sets are even worse in their longevity. This is not an opinion, as I have installed and replaced hundreds of these Buick chain sets over the past 25 years.

You do have 2 other options, one like the Cloyes, and other brands of double roller sets that use a billet cam gear. The other option is a TA set less expensive than the double roller type which does use billet gears and a silent chain where you can use a tensioner.

As far as changing valve springs, with most of the stock replacements I have seen and experienced, it is a waste of time and $$$ unless you are upgrading for more performance. This is not a maintaince item like the chain.

If you are going to do mods in the future, that is the time to determine if to do it, and exactly which spring to choose.

Nick, you have a part # for that TA timing set?

 

[RJ REYNOLDS]

It looks like TA lists part number TA_1523A for the billet double roller. The list price is $145.

 

[Browndog]

Thanks, I saw that when I initially checked. It doesn't look like it's the one you can use with a tensioner though.

 

[Roger]

The problem with the double roller replacement timing sets in that price range is they all use a cast cam gear which wears very fast. Within 3-5000 miles there will be a lots of chain stretch, and you cannot use a chain tensioner with a double roller. :frown:

The less expensive sets are even worse in their longevity. This is not an opinion, as I have installed and replaced hundreds of these Buick chain sets over the past 25 years.

You do have 2 other options, one like the Cloyes, and other brands of double roller sets that use a billet cam gear. The other option is a TA set less expensive than the double roller type which does use billet gears and a silent chain where you can use a tensioner.

As far as changing valve springs, with most of the stock replacements I have seen and experienced, it is a waste of time and $$$ unless you are upgrading for more performance. This is not a maintaince item like the chain.

If you are going to do mods in the future, that is the time to determine if to do it, and exactly which spring to choose.

I went with the Cloyes years ago & it works well on my DD.

 

[1KWIKSIX]

Believe that the part number from TA Performance for the steel billet gears & stock style silent single row chain that uses the tensioner is TA V1522B @ $115.00

Dampner / Tensioner assy with spring is TA V1394B @ $15.00

dave

 

[RJ REYNOLDS]

Thanks, I saw that when I initially checked. It doesn't look like it's the one you can use with a tensioner though.

That is correct. The double roller does not require a tensioner. I spoke to Nick today and he told me that after 46 10.00 runs on this chain he sent it to Cloyes to be tested and it only had 0.001 of stretch.