theft deterrent ideas?

You could cable the suspension to the nearest telephone pole with a 3/4" thick wire woven cable like I did with my '66 Corvette. Still have the Vette...ever since 1972. 'Course, the cable is heavy and a pain to haul with you...but just throw it in the back, and arrive at work all wet and dirty, as I did this in the rain, snow, mud. Nothing like a matching mud shirt and tie in the mornings.:tongue::eek:

But, like the guy says...the best is done by the owner.... theft prevention set-up....no one knows anything but the owner...like I did with my '87 GN and Vettes. The only obvious sign of theft prevention is the cable thing with my Vettes and the big cable lock Harley Davidson steel cable through the front wheel, (Torque Thrusts IIs) around the upper control arm and back out through the lock side of the cable....it can only be towed with one wheel moving and that is the front, locked at the extreme left or right angle. This alone has kept my GN from being taken so far. There are lots of other things done to the car...not tellin':tongue: The paragraph does give a small clue to what else I've done to the car.


For years I used to take apart the ignition shield section over the distributor on both Vettes and take the coil wire with me...stuffed it in my pocket...opening the hood you can't even tell the wire was missing as the shielding hid it...that is...if you could spend the time it takes to open a prelocked hood to the Vettes....yes, the hood locked from underneath and it took a special key to unlock it....two locks to go through...lots of trouble? Yes...pain in the ass? Yes. Lost the coil wire sometimes? Duh....Yes.:tongue: Worth it to me? Double yes. Plus, I also had a coil shut-off switch hidden inside, this grounded the coil and the car would not start. Just one of many, many things I've done. I'd love to ground out the coil on the GN with a switch, but I've been told it will wreck the computer. So, can't do.

Sigh.:frown: Isn't it a bitch what we have to go through just to keep our beloved cars that we work on, slave over, upgrade, and cherish so much? To think....the only means of personal transportation in the western days were horses....and they used to HANG horse thieves!!! I truely wish today all car thieves could be executed....I'd be the first to throw the switch. My '87 GN was stolen from my beloved late father in 2001 when he owned it. Only by the grace of God did he get it back one month later....the trash f**kers thieves had ruined a lot of his GN. Dad just had it repainted only one week before the theft. That's why I have it now...Dad was so happy I fixed up most of the damage for him and got it running again that he gave it to me just before he died. And, here in Virginia, the law says I can't shoot a car thief with my .44 magnum. That is really galling to me. I CAN'T shoot the coward who trys to steal my GN, or any of my cars. Is it like that out your way, guys?

How 'bout it, Brett? Are you allowed to shoot a car thieft if he's stealing your car out of your garage/driveway/street? What would you do? You're a respected police officer so tell me, I'm all hearing aids.:rolleyes: You have a lot of common sense so let us know. But,like I said, the police here said I can't shoot a car thief. Hell, I'm not even allowed to shoot a thief in my house if he's running away from me...only in the front of him, not the back...so, if the idiot's walking out the front door with one of my prized guitars, I can only make him turn around and blast him....but if I shot him in the back...I'M the jerk who goes to jail......TRUE STORY as told by my gun instructor. Jeeze, what a f**ked up world this is. We citizens are being stripped of all of our rights here.:mad:

Enough of lecture. Next item.........:rolleyes:





Bruce '87 Grand National
 
Oh, I forgot to say...to all of you out there (especially you, hesermon) I know exactly how you feel having your car stolen...it's really painful and upsetting. So, you have my sympathy on this. It's a bitch.

Hesermon, you've got to be kidding!!!!:eek:Out of a parking lot like that? With the Viper alarm system???Jeeze, tell me what went wrong? I thought that system was golden. Man, very sorry to hear that happened to you. Don't worry, there's a SPECIAL place in hell for those cowards who did that.

When my Dad had my '87 GN, he did NOTHING to prevent it being stolen. Not one anti-theft thing on it.

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
Jeff, what does the TurboTweak security chip do? How do you activate and deactivate it? Wait, don't tell me....a thief could be reading this. But do they work very well?

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
theCATman, that's a great idea about the inline fuse. When I get my hot wire pump system in, that's exactly what I'm going to do, take out the fuse.

I guess I'll have to fabricate up a long list of things to activate/deactivate on the GN for anti-theft systems, put it on a photo etched plate to carry with me...sort of like the pre-flight check lists all pilots have before take-off. This alone will explain the extra one to two hours I'll be getting home late....to show my wonderful wife I'm not having an affair:tongue::rolleyes: as this should be how long I have to go through all the trouble just to start the damn thing.:mad:

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
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Hesermon, you've got to be kidding!!!!:eek:Out of a parking lot like that? With the Viper alarm system???Jeeze, tell me what went wrong?

Bruce '87 Grand National
My car was parked at the Hollywood Casino in Tunica, MS. The lot has cameras that pan a given area every few seconds. A camera sweep shows my car sitting in a parking spot all by itself with no sign of anyone around. 6 seconds later that camera pan back to an empty spot. I discovered the car missing about 15 minutes after it "disappeared". I ran to the security office to report it then the security manager on duty put got me on a golf cart to cruise around the lot for 20 minutes because I "might have forgot exactly where I parked it". All the time the person whom he had been a look out for was driving away. When I insisted on calling the Sheriff's dept. he assured me that the call had already been made. The police report showed that the call was received about 1 1/2 hours after the car had been discovered missing. The casino offered no explanation of the different stories only that the loss was "regrettable". Of course Viper has improved a lot over the past 6 years but at the time it was their best. I don't believe that any car thief could have disabled the alarm and bypassed the starter interrupt feature in those 6 seconds. The car was never found.
 
Thanks for explaining your loss. Man, I really feel bad for you. Very sorry, buddy. Makes me so angry.

And goes to show, if you want anything done, anything, you have to do it yourself....that call should have been made right away...it just goes to show that hardly anyone cares nor does their jobs anymore. I've learned this myself, I never take anyone's word for anything....I just make sure to do it myself and be safe.

Again, I'm sorry this happened to you. It only makes me realize how even more fortunate that my late Dad got his car back...that, in itself, is a miracle right there.

Thanks for sharing. You can't do enough to keep your car, so just keep trying. Maybe someday you'll get some justice for your misfortune...I sure hope you do.

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
I'm thinking of putting a keyed switch in-line on the wire that runs from the ECM to the battery.


I just finished installing such a system that is plug and play offered by one of the vendors here not even 15 minutes ago. :biggrin: All I have to do is pull a fuse and the engine just cranks. I don't like the idea of the ECM having to relearn every time so I might install a hidden switch to interrupt the hotwire kit and only pull the ecm fuse when I can't keep an eye on it.
 
What Amp rating do I need on the toggle switch to put an interrupt on the hotwire kit? 30amp?
 
I would use 30 amp, but if you're doing it why not put in a keyed switch. If installed properly, it wouldn't do any good just to locate the hidden switch, you would have to have the key or do some more work to get to the back of the switch to jump the wires. I'm thinking of a solid steel box inside the trunk that would make it nearly impossible to access the wires that go to whatever you interrupt.:cool:
 
Buy 5 road flares, a roll of electrical tape, and a cheapo multi-meter and coiled wires. Tape the road flares together, tape the multimeter to the bundle, stick the coiled wires (always red and blue just like the movies) and lay it (along with a $100 bill) on the front seat. Alligator clip one of the blue wires to the door lock, and the other to the ignition switch. Park it in any rough neighborhood, and walk away with the door unlocked. NOBODY will even try to take your car.:biggrin:

OK....DON'T do this! You'll get to meet the nice folks from the ATF.:eek:
 
My car was parked at the Hollywood Casino in Tunica, MS. The lot has cameras that pan a given area every few seconds. A camera sweep shows my car sitting in a parking spot all by itself with no sign of anyone around. 6 seconds later that camera pan back to an empty spot. I discovered the car missing about 15 minutes after it "disappeared". I ran to the security office to report it then the security manager on duty put got me on a golf cart to cruise around the lot for 20 minutes because I "might have forgot exactly where I parked it". All the time the person whom he had been a look out for was driving away. When I insisted on calling the Sheriff's dept. he assured me that the call had already been made. The police report showed that the call was received about 1 1/2 hours after the car had been discovered missing. The casino offered no explanation of the different stories only that the loss was "regrettable". Of course Viper has improved a lot over the past 6 years but at the time it was their best. I don't believe that any car thief could have disabled the alarm and bypassed the starter interrupt feature in those 6 seconds. The car was never found.

THAT was an inside job, if I ever read one.:eek:
 
Has anyone tried to use a line lock attached to their alarm to lock the front wheels when the car arms?.When i get some time Im going to try it.I bet nobody would be able to move the car then.
 
Prev owner set up an "old school" toggle switch to the ign. Flip it (yes, it's a PITA to get to) and she'll crank til battery dies.
 
$5 Starter Kill

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I bought a rocker switch for my "mystery theft deterrent" system I'm going to hide. I also bought me a toggle for the hotwire kit I'll probably install later when it cools off today.
 
Pmoore4321...excellent!!! Great idea. I can't thank you enough for sharing this with us!!!! Great idea!!!! Thank you!!!!!1:wink:

Bruce '87 Grand National

Extremely easy to install and dirt cheap. If you go to ebay and search "relay socket starter" you can find relay/socket combos for less than $5.

Here is all you need except for the wire to the toggle switch:

12 VDC 4-Pin Relay Socket w/Diode | Parts-Express.com
12 VDC Tyco 5-Pin Relay SPDT 20/30A (Formerly Bosch) | Parts-Express.com
SPST Sub-Mini Toggle Switch | Parts-Express.com
 
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