This is a long post but please help. I am a little new to this site but have read for hours everyday for the past two months. You guys always seem to nice and extermely helpful. I think I have read to much because I am a little confused on where to go from this point. I am working on my 87 T, just bought couple of months ago. I have a 87 Gn 47K perfect bone stock not even driven in 11 years. I love these cars but did not want to loose the value of pure stock GN, but wanted to go racing in a turbo regal so I bought the T Type. The odo says 81K car looks like they have been hard if true. I have a couple of guys working for me that are good mechanics but know Nothing about a turbo. I know nothing about cams, heads, pistons, etc... but have read about these cars since 1990 when I got my GN. I know my way around enough to direct them a little on the turbo stuff and they can work on the other stuff fine. But we generally do just minor repairs and engine and tranny swapping but no Internal work. The only mods I can see to the car when I bought was a bigger radiator, MAF system with 14' K&N filter, Vaccum brake system, and new hose set, other than that looks stock. I got a little crazy at first and bought alot of stuff. The problem is now we just tore the car down today; intercooler, turbo, TB and plenum, valve covers, alt etc... I was planning to install the following stuff I bought, but need to know where to go from here.
1. 160 therm.
2. Heated O2
3. New EGR Valve
4. Fuel filter, reds pumps and hotwire system. adj fuel reg.
5. All neccesary gauges with new sensors.
6. Drive shaft loop
7. pinions snubber and both air bags.
8. 8 position ultra chip and SCANMASTER
9. 009 42# inj
10. TH d pipe with dump.
11. Double Roll Timing chain
12. Heavy Duty valve springs
13 Art Carr tranny cooler and deep pan filter kit
14. Assorted turbo lines and such but thats about it.
15 Oh and RJC power plate and wastegate actuator and soleniod
Over 3K already
I read so many "recepies" thought this stuff might put in high 11's but now I am not so sure. Did not want to up turbo size yet, to try to save that 800.00 becuase I figured the engine was going to be weak, due to mileage did not want to over do it and blow. Today when pulled off valve covers we were shocked that the valves so clean. The motor was covered in oil, everything covered a hose or turbo most have leaked at some point. The previous owner had done some "rigging" but I think we have corrected all that. The plenum had carbon blocking that first little square almost completely with only a pin hole there. The fins on the first wheel in the turbo looked ragged. The tranny in the car shifts great so I feel correct mileage, so to the questions.
1. My EGR valve had a little oil in it when we took it out is that normal.
2. My first time taking a buick down so I think Turbo is stock says AR 60 M-10. I know I said I read all about these cars but do not know the markings for the stock turbo. Think the chip was stock
3. Figured if fins on that first wheel was ragged the others were too. So I guess I need to upgrade turbo. Which dog gone one I have read so many posts and recepies saying this turbo or that turbo is best. Right now I am very interesed in the PT 61 but I will admit very influenced by this board. I do not know enough about these things to make a wise decision. I want an low 11 or high 10 car. Looks like if go that way I need new injectors and chip according to recent posts.
4. Like I said already over 3K invested and now I feel I need HnR sway bar and uppers and lowers boxed to get the time I want, thats a grand right there. Also looks like need Alky kit, but Which One. I have read good and bad posts about each. I like the looks of the SMC but I dont wont to waste the money on an inferior product.
5. Since car already tore down should I have head work done, local guys will do reasonalby but they have never done them for these cars.
6. Should I put new cam in, and that incredilby expensive cam sensor. There again which one so many different this one or that one better.
7. Since raising motor anyway should put in new mounts.
8. Should I have tranny reworked or just install a valve body kit, shift kit, and servo. What Stall do I need.
9. And whatever else I need to do while tore down, please give any tips or advice it would be greatly appreciated.
10. Have all parts to do the entire SPRING CLEANING from gntype.org.
So therein lies my problem. I want a street car that will hook and spank all these dang Mustangs around here spraying 250 shots and spinning everywhere. But, where does the money end and how in the heck do you know which turbo, alky kit, suspension stuff, etc... Most of you guys are pro's please help me I would love some good solid advice. I want to do whatever NEEDS to be done to get those times as economically as possible. I do not drive the car much just playing around alot so not many miles will be put on. I dont want to bolt so much and blow the motor a week after spending all this money. Please be honest and help me not blow anymore money. Thanks again.
1. 160 therm.
2. Heated O2
3. New EGR Valve
4. Fuel filter, reds pumps and hotwire system. adj fuel reg.
5. All neccesary gauges with new sensors.
6. Drive shaft loop
7. pinions snubber and both air bags.
8. 8 position ultra chip and SCANMASTER
9. 009 42# inj
10. TH d pipe with dump.
11. Double Roll Timing chain
12. Heavy Duty valve springs
13 Art Carr tranny cooler and deep pan filter kit
14. Assorted turbo lines and such but thats about it.
15 Oh and RJC power plate and wastegate actuator and soleniod
Over 3K already
I read so many "recepies" thought this stuff might put in high 11's but now I am not so sure. Did not want to up turbo size yet, to try to save that 800.00 becuase I figured the engine was going to be weak, due to mileage did not want to over do it and blow. Today when pulled off valve covers we were shocked that the valves so clean. The motor was covered in oil, everything covered a hose or turbo most have leaked at some point. The previous owner had done some "rigging" but I think we have corrected all that. The plenum had carbon blocking that first little square almost completely with only a pin hole there. The fins on the first wheel in the turbo looked ragged. The tranny in the car shifts great so I feel correct mileage, so to the questions.
1. My EGR valve had a little oil in it when we took it out is that normal.
2. My first time taking a buick down so I think Turbo is stock says AR 60 M-10. I know I said I read all about these cars but do not know the markings for the stock turbo. Think the chip was stock
3. Figured if fins on that first wheel was ragged the others were too. So I guess I need to upgrade turbo. Which dog gone one I have read so many posts and recepies saying this turbo or that turbo is best. Right now I am very interesed in the PT 61 but I will admit very influenced by this board. I do not know enough about these things to make a wise decision. I want an low 11 or high 10 car. Looks like if go that way I need new injectors and chip according to recent posts.
4. Like I said already over 3K invested and now I feel I need HnR sway bar and uppers and lowers boxed to get the time I want, thats a grand right there. Also looks like need Alky kit, but Which One. I have read good and bad posts about each. I like the looks of the SMC but I dont wont to waste the money on an inferior product.
5. Since car already tore down should I have head work done, local guys will do reasonalby but they have never done them for these cars.
6. Should I put new cam in, and that incredilby expensive cam sensor. There again which one so many different this one or that one better.
7. Since raising motor anyway should put in new mounts.
8. Should I have tranny reworked or just install a valve body kit, shift kit, and servo. What Stall do I need.
9. And whatever else I need to do while tore down, please give any tips or advice it would be greatly appreciated.
10. Have all parts to do the entire SPRING CLEANING from gntype.org.
So therein lies my problem. I want a street car that will hook and spank all these dang Mustangs around here spraying 250 shots and spinning everywhere. But, where does the money end and how in the heck do you know which turbo, alky kit, suspension stuff, etc... Most of you guys are pro's please help me I would love some good solid advice. I want to do whatever NEEDS to be done to get those times as economically as possible. I do not drive the car much just playing around alot so not many miles will be put on. I dont want to bolt so much and blow the motor a week after spending all this money. Please be honest and help me not blow anymore money. Thanks again.
