New refrigerant to replace R134

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RockAuto Newletter:


Owners of 1994 and newer cars, this is the time to fix your air conditioner. Not just because warm summer days are coming (hurray!) and RockAuto has AC compressors, condensers, evaporators, and other AC parts that we are eager to sell. Fix your AC because you will soon officially be joining the owners of 1993 and older cars in having environmentally unfriendly and expensive refrigerant under your hoods.

In 1994, R-12 (branded as Freon) refrigerant was replaced with R-134a in new vehicle AC systems. R-12 had contributed to holes in the earth’s ozone layer. Production of new R-12 was banned in the United States and most other countries. The price of recycled R-12 skyrocketed. R-12 smuggling became as lucrative as drug smuggling. The last time I had an AC system charged, the R-12 cost $60 a pound.

Now R-134a is on the chopping block because it has a “global warming potential” (GWP) of 1400. Carbon dioxide is the baseline with a GWP of 1. This means R-134a is a greenhouse gas that contributes to global warming 1400 times as much as an equal amount of CO2.

Regulations now specify that refrigerants have a GWP of less than 150. New vehicles in Europe are required to have low GWP refrigerant starting this year. In the US, low GWP refrigerant will be phased in from 2013 to 2016 depending on the vehicle manufacturer.

The preferred new refrigerant is something called R-1234yf. It has a GWP of only 4. It requires special lubricating oils and handling equipment. It is also slightly flammable. AC fittings will be changed to help prevent the mixing of R-1234yf with R-134a.

This time around the production of the old refrigerant, R-134a, will not be banned. But R-134a will be federally taxed so its price is forced up from about $10 a pound to about $40 a pound, the expected price of R-1234yf. The tax is intended to further discourage people from attempting to use R-134a in one of the upcoming new cars designed to use R-1234yf.

This means refrigerant for the typical two pound R-134a AC charge will cost $80 instead of $20. That lost $60 might buy an AC O-ring set, an AC receiver drier or help pay for labor or other needed air conditioning parts. If your AC system needs work or frequent recharging, you will likely save some money by fixing it sooner rather than later.

Tom Taylor,
RockAuto.com
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Looks like time to stock pile.
 
This is more government BULL$HIT, that is Republirats, and DIMorats, allowing big corporations to rob the people of their hard earned cash. I just happened to notice a can of 134 is selling for $14 or $15 at Advance. Global warming is bull$hit, so there is no danger to the environment whatsoever. A danger to the environment is these goddamn big companies that spew oil into the Gulf of Mexico, or nations that build nuclear plants in dangerous locales.
 
i read somewhere that one of the new refrigerants is just highly refined propane- which means that the .001% of impurities in regular propane have been removed. people claim to just buy the smaller bottles of propane like they use on torches and fill their cars up with that.. don't know how accurate that is or how well it works, but i read it on teh internets so it has to be true.
but they would never use something cheap and readily available like propane since Dupont or Dow can't get a patent for it..
 
Global Warming

So which is worst the radio active water being dumped into the oceans food supply system or freon in the ozone or oil leaking in the Gulf?
There are big profits to be made by special interest groups in the government...
 
Well **** seeing as I'm about to embark on an a/c repair job, guess I better boogie my ass down to the nearest China Mart and buy them out. :rolleyes:
 
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