WARBIRD1989
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- Jul 25, 2004
Good morning
I was wondering about some thoughts and what your opinions may be. I presently am in possession of two tta's, one festival car number No 77, and No. 170.
I paid nearly $10,000 for each car, neither car made the drive home. The first car the transmission was gone within 500 miles. The second car lost its motor because the jerk who I purchased it from did not tighten down the balancer. $7000 later my motor is still in the machine shop. I have come to one conclusion people who do not understand these cars should not have them. One simple mistake can destroy everything.
Now let me get on to what I'm going to ask.
As we all know these cars are very special there are very unique electrical and mechanical systems that only these cars have, for the most part we understand them. This does not mean that I would not like to have the service manual for this car, I have contacted all the usual sources and their no longer being produced. In the last year I found some for sale on eBay. The price was well over $100. This is fine with me. The book I purchased is in mint condition. I do you plan on using it in my shop. so what I'm going to do is when I go to work I'm going to make an identical copy of this book, so my original one will always be just that, never a chance of ending up in the waste oil pan, ( as did my grandfather 's 1964 motors manual).
I know the book is copyrighted, but I wish who ever had the copyright would make some more of them. I am going to make a copy for myself which is going to take a couple of days, but once the first one is made I can print off additional copies in less than 10 minutes.
Now I ask the moral issue, would it be wrong to sell or give these copies away? Obviously it would be illegal, but what about the moral issue, people who have these books know that they all are worth something because their rare, so these people may be upset because the price will go down. My opinion is we are a small group of people who have these cars, there are two types, there are people like us who drive and race them, and there are people who keep them in a garage until the day they die. If there is another group please let me know.
I have had a few people ask me if they could have a copy, I have no problem with giving copies to my friends, but if I am going to do all this work I would like to offer this knowledge to others, I would not wish to make profit from it, just the cost of paper and shipping. I believe this book contains knowledge that everyone that has at anniversary edition should be capable of getting, without waiting for the ones or two books that show up on eBay. Or waiting for who ever has the copyright to get a production for at least 50.
Now you know what I'm asking, so what are your opinions.
Should I just make a copy for myself?
Should I run off more copies and offer them at cost, and risk being arrested? (I think very unlikely because of the limited production of this vehicle and limited demand for the service manual)
To be honest I'm going to make three copies for myself, if someone wish to borrow a copy, what they do with it after that is their business, just as long as I get my copy back. Hint hint....
I do not believe that knowledge is something that only a few should have, everyone who has one of these cars should also have the ability to fix it using a good source of information.
All opinions are welcome.
Steve
I was wondering about some thoughts and what your opinions may be. I presently am in possession of two tta's, one festival car number No 77, and No. 170.
I paid nearly $10,000 for each car, neither car made the drive home. The first car the transmission was gone within 500 miles. The second car lost its motor because the jerk who I purchased it from did not tighten down the balancer. $7000 later my motor is still in the machine shop. I have come to one conclusion people who do not understand these cars should not have them. One simple mistake can destroy everything.
Now let me get on to what I'm going to ask.
As we all know these cars are very special there are very unique electrical and mechanical systems that only these cars have, for the most part we understand them. This does not mean that I would not like to have the service manual for this car, I have contacted all the usual sources and their no longer being produced. In the last year I found some for sale on eBay. The price was well over $100. This is fine with me. The book I purchased is in mint condition. I do you plan on using it in my shop. so what I'm going to do is when I go to work I'm going to make an identical copy of this book, so my original one will always be just that, never a chance of ending up in the waste oil pan, ( as did my grandfather 's 1964 motors manual).
I know the book is copyrighted, but I wish who ever had the copyright would make some more of them. I am going to make a copy for myself which is going to take a couple of days, but once the first one is made I can print off additional copies in less than 10 minutes.
Now I ask the moral issue, would it be wrong to sell or give these copies away? Obviously it would be illegal, but what about the moral issue, people who have these books know that they all are worth something because their rare, so these people may be upset because the price will go down. My opinion is we are a small group of people who have these cars, there are two types, there are people like us who drive and race them, and there are people who keep them in a garage until the day they die. If there is another group please let me know.
I have had a few people ask me if they could have a copy, I have no problem with giving copies to my friends, but if I am going to do all this work I would like to offer this knowledge to others, I would not wish to make profit from it, just the cost of paper and shipping. I believe this book contains knowledge that everyone that has at anniversary edition should be capable of getting, without waiting for the ones or two books that show up on eBay. Or waiting for who ever has the copyright to get a production for at least 50.
Now you know what I'm asking, so what are your opinions.
Should I just make a copy for myself?
Should I run off more copies and offer them at cost, and risk being arrested? (I think very unlikely because of the limited production of this vehicle and limited demand for the service manual)
To be honest I'm going to make three copies for myself, if someone wish to borrow a copy, what they do with it after that is their business, just as long as I get my copy back. Hint hint....
I do not believe that knowledge is something that only a few should have, everyone who has one of these cars should also have the ability to fix it using a good source of information.
All opinions are welcome.
Steve
