I thought you did. I was just trying to clear up the misconception that you couldn't run staright meth. I knew as soon as I saw this post eventually someone would bash the system and try to compare it to an Alky Control system. Razor has a great kit and offers good customer service and I commend him for it, I just hate it that any other system mentioned here gets run down at some point or another. I am all for everyone having thier own opinions and being loyal to the products they like I just wish it didn't have to be at the expense of other products.
I have been thinking the same thing here lately. This forum does seem very biased towards a particular kit. However, there are many methanol/water injection kits out there that work VERY well, i know because i have used a couple different kits on a couple different cars.
Snow performance progressive kit stage 2- Was a great kit. Had it on my 25psi vortech v-1 t-trim supercharged dodge stratus coupe. Used it for 2 years with only one little problem... a controller mishap once that involved a continuous flow of methanol...I noticed the light had stuck on after i let off, 02's went wayyyy rich and my car bogged out.... so i cut power and then just disconnected the controller....nothing major and they replaced the controller free of charge.
Aquamist 2s Progressive kit- These kits are just plain awesome. My dad has one on his f-350 Diesel. A little pricey, but you definetly get what you pay for. Programmable alky/water injection maps via laptop (this is a SICK feature!!!!!!), numerous diagnostic devices to detect all sorts of things (from clogged nozzles, torn water lines, etc). IMHO, the best injection kit out there.
Never tried a Devil's Own kit... but have heard some great things....
I guess it all comes down to one thing.... easy support on these boards.
The reason i got a Razor kit is not because i think it is the best (because there are more superior kits out there, IMHO), its because of the ease of support i can get on the boards from Julio and the fact that a majority of the people on this board have it.
I could have easily taken the Snow performance kit off of my previous project and installed it on my buick. I dont think there is anything "special" about the Razor kit that sets it apart from the rest and makes it superior by any means.... in fact, i beleive the Aquamist system is the most superior kit out there (all be it, pricey). 5 of my buick buddies have the kit and that kind of sent me in razor's direction. Help with installation, dialing the kit in, etc etc was a peice of cake because i have 5 people readily available to ask questions.
Razors kit has brought a few people into the 9's on pump gas with this platform, but thats not to say i dont doubt other kits could do the same (or better).
And lets not forget that water injection is nothing new. Water injection was used back in WW2 in fighter planes to increase power during dogfights (although injection only lasted a few minutes).
Again, this is not an attack on anyone by any means...
karst#9 said:
He advised us at noble not to run straight meth with his kit,thats why he sells a special mix. Also this kit is incomplete, no instructions,no base settings cheep plastic lines,crappy controller,no tank. Doesnt even compare to Alky Control kits. I know Razors kits are a little higher,but you get braided lines,tank,very good step by step instructions, and EVERYTHING to hook it up.Plus very good customer support. I know it's the same Shurflow pump,but devil doesnt recommend running straight meth atleast thats what he told me at Noble.
Well, just to play devil's advocate (no punn intended
), people have complained about the quality of the instructions with Razor's kit. Also... cheap plastic lines? They are Polyethylene lines...lots of kits use these lines because they are flexible yet very kink resistent and can be used with many different kinds of fuels. There is nothing wrong with it. The plastic junctions many companies use are also resistent against fuel permeability, and are extremely easy to install. The price of these lines is the only thing that is cheap because polymers are pretty easy to make nowadays. The price of stainless steel is ever so increasing as days go on.
