AC-Delco PF 47 vs. PF 52 Oil Filters

[onslow]

Just looking for some opinions, facts, or urban legend.

I have been running PF 52 for its increased filtering capacity.

But I started wondering if PF 47, being smaller, would pressurize faster on startup...or does anti-drainback valve make both filters equal in that respect?

Thanks.

Steve

 

[salvageV6]

I can't answer your question but the urban legend I have heard was that once they stopped making the UPF series of black Ultraguard filters, Delcos suck for our cars.

Specifically their anti-drainbacks suck, as does their overall quality.

Lots of old threads on the blow test....

 

[tom h]

Check out Baldwin B39S, a replacement for PF52. Baldwin build quality is much better than typical "consumer" filters, and Baldwin has excellent anti-drainback valves (never yet had one leak on "blow" test).

Baldwin B9 is supersize (20% larger than PF24) and a good choice if using the RJC "Biggie" oil filter adapter.

Pics: oil filters pictures from cars photos on webshotshttp://community.webshots.com/album/36060495QXkyhh

 

[usetaboost]

What about wix filters? Used to use them on the diesels at the shop I worked at. Didn't explode like the penzoils!

 

[onslow]

Thanks guys!

If I had done a little pre-research, I would have found the "blow test" postings suggested by Tom H. and this thread from September: http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/ge...lter-question-again.html?highlight=oil+filter

Along with your current thoughts, those two discussions seem to answer my question.

Now, I am going to become a blowhard (no comments guys!).

Steve

 

[tom h]

Check out Baldwin B39S, a replacement for PF52. Baldwin build quality is much better than typical "consumer" filters, and ...

Whoops, , that should be Baldwin B35S !

 

[onslow]

Thanks for the correction on the Baldwin filter number. I will source it for the next oil change.

Meantime, I just did a "blow test" on a PF 52 I got yesterday...it did not pass any air to the outside holes. At least I won't have to worry about drainback.

Steve

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Napa 1036 and wix number is what, 51036??? Its the same size as the pf52

I have been running those napa filters for 4-5 years.

Napa sells bulk filters in a case, kinda like a value pack.. No boxes just shrink wrapped. They used to be very cheap, i bought cases of them a few years back.
BW

 

[onslow]

Bryan-

Thanks. I used to use Wix filters too...had no complaints.

BTW, every time I look at your car pic, it sure looks good! And, that was a good wheel selection for our body style.

Steve

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Bryan-

Thanks. I used to use Wix filters too...had no complaints.

BTW, every time I look at your car pic, it sure looks good! And, that was a good wheel selection for our body style.

Steve

Thanks man, i appreciate it!
Here is a link to more pics of it... car of the month in october with my buddy neils GN.


http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/tu...n-k-c-8uwith6-feature-cars-month-october.html

 

[onslow]

Bryan-

Who cares about your strip times? Heck, my car will do that...if it's dropped off a cliff. I wanna know how you trained your ride to walk up those steps to the loading dock where those great pics were taken!

Seriously, that is one of the best photo setups I have EVER seen for two cars...and one of my hobbies used to be photography.

Steve

 

[Dreamcar86]

Thanks man, i appreciate it!
Here is a link to more pics of it... car of the month in october with my buddy neils GN.


http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/tu...n-k-c-8uwith6-feature-cars-month-october.html

You guys did a fantastic job on the photo's! I hope you printed some of those to frame. Keep up the excellent work!

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

Wow guys, im really shocked.... Too bad we didnt get that kind of praise when the thread was stickey?? LOL

Maybe i should forward some pictures to make that calendar for next year.

My car did make it up the ramp, but we werent going to try it with the GN, it sits lowwww.

That was my first time out taking pictures, not too shabby ehhh?

Here is the official list of whats done to the white car, the black one is faster.

Details of the run:
60' 1.624
330' 4.799
1/8 7.483
MPH 91.27
1000' 9.80
1/4 11.767
MPH 114.62 best mph 114.82


RACE WEIGHT: 3595 WITH ME
BLOCK: Stock 109 Motor never been out of car
HEADS: Stock 8445 never off
CAM: Stock
TRANSMISSION: Stock 2004R
TORQUE CONVERTER: Stock D5
DIFFERENTIAL: Stock 8.5 3:42 gears and stock axles
INTERCOOLER: Kenne bell http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...n/100_0874.jpg
THROTTLE BODY: Stock, not even semi ported
RJC POWER PLATE: YYYYEEEEESSSSS!!!!
INJECTORS: Stock 90,000 originals
THERMOSTAT: ATR 160°
TURBOCHARGER: Stock 87 turbo regal, portmatched compressor housing to inlet bell
VALVE SPRINGS: Stock 90K originals
MAF: LS1 3.5 with Mark Hueffman cold air kit
DOWN PIPE: MPE Keith Mease 3" S.S. downpipe
EXHAUST: Nonexistant, just downpipe
FUEL PUMP: 340m with Kenne Bell hotwire relay
FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR: Stock TTA 237, non adjustable
FUEL PRESSURE: 47psi
ALCHOHOL INJECTION: Yes, writeup about it here DIY- Junk drawer DIY kit, SMC controller, Sureflow pump,m-10, 1/8th ss line...
PROPAIN INJECTION: NO
NITROUS: NO
AIR FILTER AND AIR INTAKE: Mark Hueffman 4" to 3.5 at MAF
TIRE DESIGN, SIZE & AIR PRESSURE: M/T 28x9.0 ET drags at 12.0 psi cold
AIR BAG(s): 1 on pass side rear, 20psi
SUSPENSION: Missing front swaybar and endlinks, boxed rear uppers and lowers, air bag 20psi and ATR rear 1 3/8 sway bar
SCAN TOOL: Scanmaster 2.1
FUEL: Either 110 Turbo blue OR some type of Blue 112???
CHIP: TT Eric Marshall TT chip made at the nats for my grey car in 03?
CHIP TIMING: 27° in first and second 25° in third
KNOCK RETARD: .5 or 1.0 MAX entire run
OXYGEN SENSOR VOLTAGE: With SMC controller at 4, its 760's at 22-23psi
EXHAUST GAS TEMPERATURE: NO EGT
TRACK ELEVATION: LESS THAN 800 feet
TEMPERATURE: 55°
PEAK BOOST: 23
BOOST AT LAUNCH: 10psi foot brake
MILES ON THE CAR/ENGINE: 90,150 ish