ill get a better look at the injectors today, seeings how i have the day off!! last night i found out why i was getting trouble code 23, the wire was frayed before the connector, so i got it fixed. i turned the car back on and the blms got alot better it usually stays in the high 600,s to mid 800's now although it dipped into the 400's a couple of times, but after a little while idling it started running rough and i got trouble code for o2 sensor. im thinking i ruined it when i ran it with ats not working im getting a new denso this afternoon. im going to check the egr now and ill set the base to 1 and get back with you. maybe you could help me with another issue, when i give it gas and let off suddenly, the motor will turn off, i heard elsewhere in this forum that it could be that i have a 3000 stall converter, would this be the cause even when its in park? im thinking i really need to get that chip.