2014 Shelby GT500

[CGASTON]

That is total internet BS.

I doubt that many owners here were at the track with their show room stock GN's with the crappy Goodyear tires 26-27 years ago when it could barely break into the 14's on a good day!

Even 10-11 years later, an 11 sec. GN was considered "fast" and no stock blocks had run into the 9's!

I wonder what a GN would have cost in 2013 $$$$$?

Probably more than the current Mustang or Camaro!

Nick,

Mark Jackson was running his bone stock GN (minus adjustable FP regulator) and was running 11.5s with 28x10" slicks and mid 13s on street back in late 90s (92-96).

Clint


Clint

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[turbojoe1]

Gotta respect the numbers the "new GT500" puts out for sure, i didn't read much about it before this thread. I think it was Motor trend that called it "best power per dollar" it was Ford's answer to the new Chevy Camero ZL1 and for that sake they went above as the GT is now the most powerful production gas V8 in the world. Just damn. I think this was more to honor the late Carol Shelby than the current hp war, but hey look at all the power coming out of Detroit these day's. we can't let those over priced Italians have all the fun. 600hp is the new 400hp

 

[L8TRH8R]

L8TRH8R
Your car is awesome. I have that copy of GMHTP. Fantastic article. Yours is one of my favorite TR's.
Awesome kill.

I thought this was a Buick forum?

Thank you for the compliment, greatly appreciate it.

As far as respecting the Mustang and mod for mod, sorry, I don't HAVE to respect it. To me Mustangs are belly button cars (everyone has one) ad anyone can have one. The black Hennessy ZL1 from YouTube is also in my town. Chatted with him most of the car show we attended last weekend. He had NO idea a turbo Buick could be as gnarly, if not MORE gnarly then the car he had. His son went so far as to tell his dad (the owner) that he thought the Buick was far cooler. We are going to meet up at some point and have some street fun, take each other for a ride etc. The car went 10.85 at the Henessey facility... All for around 80k. I'm the only guy running a tr around here and I love it. An trust me, they HAVE to respect it.


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[turbojoe1]

I am not a mustang guy by any means, and i feel the same as they are a dime a dozen. As i mentioned before they are over rated to me. I could buy a 12 sec fox body any day of the week around here. I just have to admit they put one hell of an engine in they're latest creation weather my taste or not.

But as we know most of the mustang guys spend more than necessary to hit they're number, if they have a number, and when everyone else puts a SBC in one on the cheap and it's faster...... Oh they hate that.

 

[EVIL]

Mustangs and Cobras in general sure are fun to drive though!

My 03 was a blast to drive.

D

 

[turbojoe1]

Yea the 03-04's were all the hype, till the GT500 came back out. And the Jeg's & summit catalogs are just full of bolt on's for them. Thats what i meant. All the more reason these cars mentioned are so popular at the strip, and thats why i don't care for them. Too popular, but still american muscle.....I just wouldn't want to lose to a mustang in my black car, cause if i did, well.... i'd have to switch up my combo so that don't happen again.

 

[faster]

Mustangs and Cobras in general sure are fun to drive though!

My 03 was a blast to drive.

D

Exactly that's all were saying. If I could beat on my T like I beat on my 97 Cobra (not just a 97 Mustang) I would not have the Cobra (granted 13.8 car vs 11.18 car but). I paid $6K for a garage queen flawless black 97 Cobra, have pounded it for two years now and only put plugs and tires on it. It runs 13.6/13.8 bone stock on street tires, gets 19-20 city-26 hwy and will hit the fuel shut off of 152 with stability and with the best brakes of any car I've ever drove... A Kenne Bell supercharger kit $5K and tougher trans $2K and I'm in the 11's with it. But it will always be just a daily driver to pound on that gets great mileage.

For the record my first T a 13.2-3 car got 18-19 city and 29 hwy.

Trade the T for a Cobra? NO WAY...

Mikey

 

[EVIL]

sweet! my 97 cobra was a blast to drive as well. couldn’t kill that motor but i went thru 10 trannys in two years. 3 in one week.

 

[TLIMITED]

I've got a '13 Gt500 and an '87 GN (well, actually the wife's). With a few very minimal mods the '13/'14's will easily run 10 sec et's in the mid 130's with a sticky tire. When I say minimal, I'm talking an intake tube, throttle body, underdrive pulley and a tune. All can be had for about $2k or better if you shop around. The wifes car should potentially be capable of upper 10 sec et's and will get the Shelby from a dig but start getting up in the mph and the GT500 will easily walk it. I've been able to beat stock Z06's and keep up with some high end Porsche's and beat others all for less money than the above mentioned.

There have been bone stock GT500's on stock tires running 11.2's & 11.3's @ 128+mph. I will admit a worked over GN will surely be quicker from light to light but go for more than a light and see what the outcome will be. The Shelby's are very traction limited with stock tires and very tricky to launch well. I've been able to pull a 4.1 0-60 on stock tires without heating them up (tests claim 3.5).

My car, bone stock, put down 609rwhp with a 5yr/60,000 mile warranty. You have to admit that's pretty damn impressive for a stock car. With the above mentioned mods the car will easily put down 700+ rwhp on pump 91 gas, no meth or any other additives. While I love the GN it is more of a one trick pony when compared to my Shelby. Trust me, I love to go fast in a straight line (own a 9 sec Fox) but to have a car that is capable of keeping up with some exotics thru the curves, a lot of them on the straights and all for less money is very appealing! I would seriously hope that your mid 10 sec GN should be able to whoop most Shelby's light to light but run into one that's been modded with a good driver don't be too surprised if the outcome is different.

BTW, the Shelby has a Tremac TR-6060 trans with a dual disc clutch. Driver makes a huge difference on how well the trans performs.

Yeah,Do them mods and loose all your warranty.Just happened to a good friend.He did cold air kit and tunes,took it in for warranty.put stock tune back inbefore taking in and they told him the number of tunes that had been put in the car which was six and that he no longer has warranty.Also the tunes were from a well known company and were not supposed to void warranty.They told him anyones tune besides Ford's would void the warranty

 

[faster]

sweet! my 97 cobra was a blast to drive as well. couldn’t kill that motor but i went thru 10 trannys in two years. 3 in one week.

How did you rip out 3 in one week? But yea that's the weak link. There's a guy in Eustis Fl that will make you a 5 speeed for $2K that will tolerate 500 hp and 500 lb-ft. So if I keep it and supercharge or turbo it I will be getting one of his trans.

Mikey

 

[FastB]

Ya know, the 392 HEMI is no joke either...they dyno all day long bone stock at 410-420 to the rear wheels..too bad the Challenger is so heavy to be very competitive with the camaro and GT.
I test drove a SRT8 Challenger last weekend and it's pretty quick and has a great V8 sound...but doesn't have that white knuckle acceleration that my GN has...it's def a good time to be into horsepower...just better have the coin to back it up.

 

[myfast70]

Yeah,Do them mods and loose all your warranty.Just happened to a good friend.He did cold air kit and tunes,took it in for warranty.put stock tune back inbefore taking in and they told him the number of tunes that had been put in the car which was six and that he no longer has warranty.Also the tunes were from a well known company and were not supposed to void warranty.They told him anyones tune besides Ford's would void the warranty

That's the price you pay to play. It really comes down to the dealer and the relationship that you have with them. The only time you will really run into an issue with warranty is if you have catastrophic engine damage. Tunes always void warranty! Aftermarket parts now, that's a different story. They have to prove that the part you installed caused the failure. They can't void your entire car warranty for changing the tune, the engine yes.

Just curious, what type of warranty work did he take it in for?

 

[Raven]

The 13/14 Shelby's are sick. Don't underestimate the car because with a good driver and the right tire, even a low 11 second GN will have its hands full.

 

[we4Mateo]

The 13/14 Shelby's are sick. Don't underestimate the car because with a good driver and the right tire, even a low 11 second GN will have its hands full.

One with a great driver is harder to find but you're right.

 

[faster]

The 13/14 Shelby's are sick. Don't underestimate the car because with a good driver and the right tire, even a low 11 second GN will have its hands full.

On the street all bets are off. Too many factors at play to always predict a street race winner from cars that are 2 maybe even 3 seconds apart at the track.

That said I would never pay that kind of $$$$$ for a car just because its quick; but that's me others have a different point of view and that's okay. Drive what you want. I would throw $6-7K at my 97 Cobra before I bought a new Shelby and have virtually the same car but again that's me. My T runs low 11's at 123-124 and I don't want more than 600-650 hp for the street.

Mikey

 

[Street Lethal]

That said I would never pay that kind of $$$$$ for a car just because its quick; but that's me others have a different point of view and that's okay. Drive what you want. I would throw $6-7K at my 97 Cobra before I bought a new Shelby and have virtually the same car but again that's me...

Agreed. Just got my hands on a '96 Corvette to play around with for under ten grand, and bone stock they are mid to high 13 second cars. I'm a Procharger away from running in the low elevens and high tens if need be, and that will only set me back about five grand extra. The car is a ton of fun, even when stock, but that won't last too long...

 

[blackshoebox]

I work for Ford, and have a TVS Supercharged 5.0. The car has run 11.0's@127 with the blower, tune, and control arms.

The new GT500 is basically a super car on a budget. The car has been close to 200 mph in stock form on track, and is a legit low 11 second/high 10 second car @ high 120's traps with a decent driver. Yes, it has a 55k price tag, but that is cheap if you compare it to the z06 or viper, and the GT500 can seat 4 unlike its counterparts.

These new Mustangs are no Joke. If you run into either a 5.0 with mods or a Gt500 you better bring your A game. I know when my Buick is back together, I will not line up with one, with anything less then a "kill" tune on board.

 

[turbojoe1]

I work for Ford, and have a TVS Supercharged 5.0. The car has run 11.0's@127 with the blower, tune, and control arms.

The new GT500 is basically a super car on a budget. The car has been close to 200 mph in stock form on track, and is a legit low 11 second/high 10 second car @ high 120's traps with a decent driver. Yes, it has a 55k price tag, but that is cheap if you compare it to the z06 or viper, and the GT500 can seat 4 unlike its counterparts.

These new Mustangs are no Joke. If you run into either a 5.0 with mods or a Gt500 you better bring your A game. I know when my Buick is back together, I will not line up with one, with anything less then a "kill" tune on board.

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[faster]

I work for Ford, and have a TVS Supercharged 5.0. The car has run 11.0's@127 with the blower, tune, and control arms.

The new GT500 is basically a super car on a budget. The car has been close to 200 mph in stock form on track, and is a legit low 11 second/high 10 second car @ high 120's traps with a decent driver. Yes, it has a 55k price tag, but that is cheap if you compare it to the z06 or viper, and the GT500 can seat 4 unlike its counterparts.

These new Mustangs are no Joke. If you run into either a 5.0 with mods or a Gt500 you better bring your A game. I know when my Buick is back together, I will not line up with one, with anything less then a "kill" tune on board.

Okay you've run 11.0's at the track. Now take a g-force meter find a public road and tell me what you run. How much do you have in your Mustang?

My T runs 11.18-23 at 121-124 at the track but 12.3-4 on the g-force with street tires on a public hwy. I have $20K in my T and the engine is professionally done capable of 800 HP if I so desired.

On any given day there are a dozen of those things every ten miles. No one drives Shelby 500's, Boss 302's, Z-06's, ZR-1's, ZL-1's of even a base C-5/6 to the limit on the street. It is just a show.

But like I stated before. Drive what "you" want!

Mikey

 

[StageII86]

Man, some of you guys who talk about the Buicks like its king of the hill crack me up. I guess it al depends on the "scene" you're in - if you just pick on random cars while out about your daily business then I'm sure you can do work with an 11-sec TR. But around here, if you get anywhere near people who actually street race are, you need 800+ HP and some huge sticky tires just to be taken seriously...

There are 1200-1600hp Ford GT 's and AWD Lambos, 8-sec 100% streetcar LSx Vettes and Fbods, insane boosted mod motor Ford stuff, not to mention some of the GTR's, Evos, Supras, etc that are 140mph+ street cars... You name it. Come to Cars & Coffee or any of the actual "race" get togethers in north Texas and it is a rude awakening (at how poor I am) lol.

I own the TR for its uniqueness and because I've always enjoyed tuning them and pushing the envelope - and they do have a unique tendency to run extra hard on the street. But if I wanted to have the quickest street car for the least cash this ain't it. But Buicks are super cool and get respect regardless.