Originally posted by denn454
i've been thinking a little bit about this. yea 14.3 is pretty slow, they should hae been able to go faster than that. but i think back to my first few trips to the track. i was throwing parts at my car and not really gaining much from any of them, i just thought thats the way it was. my first pass i think i run a mid 16. i met some gn guys that showed me what to do, and by the end of the night i was into the high 14's by basically doing nothing. I had quite a bit of knowledge when it comes to cars before that, but knowing about a sbc did nothign for me. since then, i might have put in another $200 into the car and i'm running in the 12's. the more i think about it, a 14.3 for the first pass on an untuned car, with an inexceperienced driver really isn't all that bad. thats the first time that guy had peobably ever sat in the seat. and i'm sure a low 14 feels like a rocket if you've never been in anything else that runs good.
oh, and i seriously doubt they run 91. did you see the vp banner? they probably ran some csp (unleded112 i think) or something like that. i'd be shocked to see it was on 91.
Good post. I was at first very critical, but it does depend how you look at it.
The numbnuts that were brought in to work on the cars did not know what the heck they were doing...that would be the shows fault. Unless that is what they were going after
. The twins on the other hand have a performance shop, a shop with "turbo" in the name for that matter. Whether or not they were TR experts there are certain basics that apply across the board. They should have known more. Between them and the show more research could/should have been done.
The exposure is great and I hope more shows come out with TRs in them. The history lesson although full of holes was good none the less, especially for someone who is unfamiliar with the cars to get a better idea.
I guess the thing that gets us is that they didnt depict the cars the way we would wished they had, but we are a little paritial in the whole matter, wouldnt ya think
. Heck imagine how I, and other hotair owners, Im sure, felt. I was surprised to see they were using hotair cars to begin with. Due to the fact theyre more rare and most of all because after the '86 model year all the publicity went to the IC cars, and has ever since. I thought this was going to finally be a chance for the 84/85s to actually get a little light. Hotair cars respond very well to minor mods the same way that 86/87 cars do. In my experience the lack of an IC can be overcome quite easily to catch up. My first run at the track I ran mid to high 14s (14.7 I think) without knowing what the heck I was doing and basic mods (first TR dealt with and never raced anything before), with actual exhaust, street tires, unknown to me at the time a wiped cam, etc, etc. The difference?..... I at least did a little reading and research (common sense might be the biggest factor though
). With all that said, with all the flaws in there build and issues that probably robbed HP rather than gained, they still
[accidentaly] bettered the stock time by a decent margine (14.3@95 vs 15.8@88). Definately should have been much better with the parts they had. Like I said, depends how you look at it.....
Wish I had a race tranny w/ 9"3200 stall, good tires, big turbo....Hmm, one of the first things they did was put a IC on. Whyd they do that? Oh yeah "you cant make power with out a proper intercooler"-Thing 1 or, was it Thing 2? Maybe that was their biggest mistake
(just thinking out loud again)