todays ny times artcle on 80,s cars gn in it

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in todays ny times the head line reads an era more forgettable then collectable there is a pic of a gn and other cars from the 80,s the article goes on to say that the gn was a bright spot from the dull years and that most people cant tell a gnx from a gn todays price range 14,000- 43,000
 
here is the article if anyone cares

An Era More Forgettable Than Collectible
By PAUL DUCHENE

Published: December 13, 2004


EARS from now, archeologists digging through the garages of societies long gone may be baffled by a lack automotive artifacts from a period of the late 20th century. Little of the evidence that would tell the story of what Americans drove from the mid-1970's through the 1980's awaits their excavations.

Whether this is a result of so few desirable cars having been offered in the United States at that time, or a legacy of Generation X drivers who may not care enough about cars to collect and preserve them, is open to debate. Other factors, including antipollution laws and oil shortages, are certainly part of the picture.

Signs of this "lost generation" phenomenon can be seen at collector events and custom car meets. Enthusiasts from Generation X - the nearly 50 million Americans born from the mid-1960's to the late 70's - are conspicuously absent, and the cars of their formative years as young drivers, about 1975-90, are very few. Instead, the parking lots are filled with V-8-powered street rods owned by gray-haired boomers, or the low-slung Japanese compacts from the '90s and later, customized by the Generation Y "Fast and Furious" crowd with superchargers, 1,000-watt stereos and 20-inch wheels wearing tires like strips of spandex. The two groups have little in common.

Dan Cyr, a producer of big hot rod and custom car shows from Portland, Ore., can see merit on both sides of the argument.

"Chrysler was still recovering and trying to make it with K-cars and Ford had a Mustang shaped like a box with bumpers," Mr. Cyr, 62, said. "The car manufacturers were too strapped with worries about 5 m.p.h. bumpers and the fuel economy to do anything creative."

Mr. Cyr, an enthusiast since he first bought a 1940 Ford coupe for $125 in 1956, has four sons. The older two followed in his tire tracks, but the younger ones, now 34 and 38, grew up playing soccer and video games.

"They have no motor oil in their veins," he said. "One drove an old Toyota pickup and the other a Honda."

Brian Moody, road test editor for Edmunds.com, the online auto shopping Web site, recalls how disappointing it was to grow up in the 1970's.

"It seemed like all the cars were being built for my Dad," he said. "There was nothing I thought was cool."

There are generational differences at work, too. Ann Fishman, an analyst who has tracked such issues for the United States Census Bureau and now for her own company, Generational Targeted Marketing, said that Generation X was the first generation reared in homes where divorce was commonplace, and that made them self-reliant and practical, the savviest consumers yet.

"They didn't have much money and they learned to appreciate quality and value; they're like living versions of Consumer Reports," Ms. Fishman said. "Boomers thrive on spin, Gen Xers want substance."

Wolfgang Gotschke is the design manager for Ford's Special Vehicle Team, or SVT, responsible or Ford's F-150 Lightning pickup and other projects. He recalls starting in the business in 1979.

"It was a dreadful time for our profession," he said. "The new cars were terribly uninspiring, like the Ford Fairmont."

Mr. Gotschke added: "If you grew up in that time you did not get into cars, you got into music, break-dancing, skateboards, BMX bikes. Clothes became more important than cars."

He and his friends bought big 60's cars and he recalls cruising in a giant Chevy convertible. "The interest in old cars was a clear indication there was nothing new desirable enough to spend money on," he said.
 
And here's the accompanying article that mentions the TRs. Loses a little credibility since it also mentions the Delorian!

Bright Spots From Those Dull Years
By PAUL DUCHENE


New York Times, December 13, 2004

HAVING trouble recalling those really desirable and affordable collectible cars of the mid-70's through the 80's?

Though the selection may be sparse, there are a few nuggets from those otherwise bleak times. Here are some that are worthy of consideration as collectibles.

1974 MGB/GT: The coupe version of the classic British roadster offered improved weather protection. Best of all are the V-8-powered models, though only about 2,500 were made, and none were certified for sale in the United States. Typical prices for cars in excellent condition: $6,000-$8,000.

1985-86 DODGE SHELBY OMNI GLH: With tuning by Carroll Shelby, creator of the Cobra, the turbocharged 4-cylinder of Dodge's economy sedan put out 146 horsepower and 0-60 times of 7.5 seconds. (GLH stood for "Goes Like Hell.") It's safe to assume that most have been used hard; survivors are rare. $2,500-$5,000.

1984-86 FORD MUSTANG SVO: Aside from the hood scoop and the dull gray color this could be mistaken for any plain-Jane Mustang of the 80's. It handles well and has a high-strung turbocharged 4-cylinder engine. But the car required fastidious maintenance. $6,000-$9,000.

1982-83 AUDI COUPE: Several levels of the two-door Audis were available, ranging from front-drive 100-horsepower models to turbocharged versions with the Quattro all-wheel-drive system, a car with many rally wins to its credit. Insist on complete maintenance records and be ready to pay extra. $3,000-$9,500.

1976 CADILLAC ELDORADO CONVERTIBLE: The front-drive Eldorado was (enormously) restyled in 1971 and stayed largely unchanged through '77. The '76 model was promoted as the "last convertible," which means that many were bought as investments and were rarely driven. $12,000-$22,000.

1987 BUICK REGAL GRAND NATIONAL: Named for the Nascar series in which these brawny coupes ran, the squared-off Buicks used a turbocharged version of the company's 3.8-liter V-6. The best of the breed were the limited-production GNX models, pumped up to 275 horsepower - but the tweaks doubled the price to $29,290. Most people cannot tell the GNX from the cheaper Grand National. $14,000-$43,000.

1979 CHRYSLER 300: This gussied-up Chrysler Cordoba is probably the only one of the series that will ever be worth collecting. Most have been cosseted - probably because they cost $1,500 extra when new. Figure on $5,000 to $8,000 - and don't break its special grille.

1981-86 JAGUAR XJ6 SERIES III: The last update of the original 1969 design added some rear headroom to the classic British wood-and-leather interior. It handles beautifully, but the usual caveats about its unreliable Lucas electrical system apply. $3,500-$8,000.

1981-83 DeLOREAN: Owners who doggedly held on are getting their money back 20 years later. The DeLorean has a stainless-steel shell and gullwing doors, but also an anemic 2.8-liter V-6. Still, John Z. DeLorean's spectacular fall from grace means everybody recognizes the car. DeLorean built 8,583 cars in its three-year run. Some owners painted over the stainless body, which can look as dull as a dirty kitchen sink. $17,000-$26,000. PAUL DUCHENE
 
"... Most people cannot tell the GNX from the cheaper Grand National. ..." :rolleyes:

It always nice to get publicity, but it's a bit annoying to have our "cheap" TRs & GNs lumped in with 4-cyl Dodge Omnis, Chrysler Cordobes, and Mustang "high-strung turbocharged 4-cylinder engine"

Years ago, a friend had one of those hot air 4cyl Mustangs. He commented the only way he knew the turbo kicked in, was the little "Turbo" lamp on the instrument panel would light up. Having been in that car, I'd wholeheartedly agree.

Oh, well. Maybe at the track we can bet $100 on races with the Ricers, who will expect TRs to perform like Chrsyler cars with wood-grain vinyl finished body panels.
 
Originally posted by ledzeppac
At the track last week there was an omni running low 90's in the 1/8
Who'da thunk! With the stock block, or some Chevy Big Block transplanted ?!

There's an old story that goes something like this:
if you ever meet a grizzled old card shark who bets you the Jack will jump out of the deck and spit in your eye, don't EVER take up the bet ... because the Jack surely will spit in your eye and you'll lose the bet.

Guess the same applies to cars ... you never know what will happen.
 
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