stage II block or 109

[oliver12]

I want to start building a motor for my street driven car. Something bullet proof. Not sure if i should go solid 109 or stage 2 block any suggestions would be great. Next question if i go stage 2 what would be the best way to go on center or off center ? Pros and cons. My motor runs fine just looking to start buying parts need advice on which direction to go.

 

[oliver12]

Or if someone has a solid short block with forged internals for sale ill prob go that route.

 

[turboclam]

How much power do you wanna make?

 

[oliver12]

Honest 400 to 500 hp. Nothing crazy mid 10 low 11second just a fast street car is what im looking for. Something reliable

 

[turboclam]

There's a 4.1 liter in the parts for sale section that would be perfect for you. Or stick with a 109 block.

 

[turbodave231]

Heck even a stock engine can make that kind of power reliably (NO DETONATION). Save your money and build a nice stock block.

 

[turbodaniel]

Or if someone has a solid short block with forged internals for sale ill prob go that route.

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[we4Mateo]

Agreed, I'd stay 109 until more than 600rwhp is required. I know 109 blocks live at higher power levels than that, but you should be ok reliable sill at 600rwhp or less with a well built 109. I'm no builder though so just my .02. No detonation is required on any Buick motor though.

 

[blackgn1]

How much money are you thinking of investing in your build? That may help with your decision also.

 

[oliver12]

A good 5 or 10 i know they arent cheap. Ill stick with the 109 anyone have a short block or stroker?

 

[GetOwnedVette]

A good 5 or 10 i know they arent cheap. Ill stick with the 109 anyone have a short block or stroker?

500hp and under 10 grand....well you wont be building a beasty stage II for under 10 grand and 500hp is easy for a near stock block 109 with a good tune. You should be able to meet your goals just fine with a 109

 

[rmar]

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/new-built-shortblock.379517/

 

[GetOwnedVette]

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/new-built-shortblock.379517/

Pretty legit deal right there!

 

[Street Lethal]

Honest 400 to 500 hp. Nothing crazy mid 10 low 11second just a fast street car is what im looking for. Something reliable

Stick with the 109...

 

[Chris Hogeland]

The 109 will be the way to go with what your wanting.

 

[blackgn1]

And Chris Hogeland can build you that motor.

 

[Howling Mad]

A good 5 or 10 i know they arent cheap. Ill stick with the 109 anyone have a short block or stroker?

Your gonna drop a hell of a lot more than 10k on a stage 2. I've got close to, if not more, in my 109

 

[TType85]

Your gonna drop a hell of a lot more than 10k on a stage 2. I've got close to, if not more, in my 109

This is the truth. Just adding the parts up for a stroker long block your easily above 6K, then add in the machine work, balancing, all the little stuff and 10K comes pretty quick.

 

[Howling Mad]

This is the truth. Just adding the parts up for a stroker long block your easily above 6K, then add in the machine work, balancing, all the little stuff and 10K comes pretty quick.

No doubt. Mines not even a stroker. In hine sight I wish I would have went with a stroker but I'm not upset about it it's still gonna be a vette killing monster

 

[kidglok]

i would do a TA block before investing in a beat up stage motor.