Crooked Mitsu dealer in AZ wont sell an EVO for ebay auction price.

That's absurd! I have a buddy up here in the NW and he races his EVO from time to time at the local drag strip. Well there was a time that he needed something checked out by the Dealership and they refused him service becasue the dealership had somebody at the track writting down plate numbers and said he was abusing the car. How about that!:confused:

Needless to say he went to another dealership with no problems.
 
The bit about "I don't know if I can recommend Mitsubishi" is a little over the top. I doubt he's the go-to guy for car recommendations. It isn't a Mitsubishi problem, it's the dealership, but if they don't offer some help, it might be something to consider.

The auction shortcut

That internet sales guy is cutting him off to protect his job. He left off the reserve, didn't cancel the auction like he should have and didn't notify bidders when he had a sale on the car (which probably wasn't finalized yet).
Looks like they do reserve the right to cancel the bids, but they also noted that they would notify bidders, which they didn't do. I think the guy's raising a stink but will drop it before he gets anywhere. Mostly internet whining on boards he's never been on before. I DO hope the dealership loses some business over this, but it's their first auction, so I doubt they take it seriously. You should be careful of sellers with little/no feedback, just like buyers.
 
Looks to me like an open and shut case. The dealer still has it on their lot according to their website and has it listed for $39,995 which is $13,795 more than they legally sold it for on E-Bay. If the guy takes it to court he could easily argue that anything more than the price he won the auction for belongs to him. If E-Bay is a binding contract (which it is) then the car is sold as long as the buyer does everything right as far as attempting to pay etc..

I hope he burns the dealer as they are just showing their true colors on this one.
 
Good points Bill.

This should harken back to the old saying: "If it sounds too good to be true....."

It sounds like the dealership covered all of the bases when listing the auction but they left out that one crucial detail. A reserve price should have been listed, or better yet, just start the auction at a higher opening price.

A new Evo even without all of the fancy video gadgetry is worth more than $26K, the bidder knew that. If the dealership had followed through and honored that auction, someone got a helluva deal.

On some later threads someone had posted the dealer's inventory and that car is still on the lot.
 
E-Bay auction
Mark Mitsu inventory

Still listed with the same VIN.

The dealer screwed up plain and simple, should have either ended the auction or put a reserve on it or just a higher starting price, could have even bidded himself if he had to(probably not legal but neither is what he is doing now)
 
Someone would be have to be smoking some serious dope to pay $39.9K for an EVO VIII even with a $1K stereo/DVD player and some stripes :rolleyes:

They are nice cars, but that's about $12K too much.
 
I don't know how Arizona is, but in California, this guy would be in so much legal hot water by several agencies that he would be as red as a lobster by the time they were done with them. Whether they have to same car in stock still or not, you won a legatimate auchion, and they are refusing to honor it. If they do still have that car in stock for sale, then you have a very strong chance of making it very hard on them. I would make an visit to they lot and see if it is there and then get the law involved.

Mark
 
The 'Net publicity doesn't mean squat to them. They probably don't even know what's going on. They're scumbags and they're not going go give this guy anything unless legal action - long and drawn out - is brought against them. eBay should go after them - they're the only party with the resources to force the dealer to honor their auction.

I've never been to a dealer who was anything more than a common thief and this is just more evidence of it. It's sad.

Jim
 
I really don't think anything is going to come of this. The guy is probably not going to take any real action to get something done. He put it on the internet thinking that would make a difference, which I don't think it will. Sure, a lot of people are looking at it, but it won't make a dent in the dealerships business. How many people in the actual area are seeing it? Not many. This is also the first, and probably last, auction the dealership will have on Ebay, at least, under that name. The only thing that will happen is the internet sales guy gets harassing calls for several days (he deserves it--and he's getting them) and that's about all. Not much of the NEW car buying population participates on these BB's to even see it. Maybe it'll attract more attention, but I doubt it. Do you really want everyone who gets screwed by a dealership to put it on the internet and spread it everywhere? That would be 1000's a day clogging things up! The guy needs to get serious to handle it, not do some BS smear campaign.
 
He may not get the car but the dealer might end up loosing 26K worth of sells from others who now will not buy from them.

I hope he gets the car I called the dealer and asked about the situation and was nice but they were very rude about this situation.
 
I refreshed it 3 times giving it 3 seconds in between. I got 7 hits, 6 hits then 12 hits..Thats 25 hits in 9 seconds :eek:
 
ebay auctions are a legal contract. you could actually take them to court and the court would award you the car plus pay you for attorney fees. I would handle it legaly...
 
a) Ebay is responsible as being a contract.

b) The dealer gets away with it and Ebay sues the dealer since Ebay is nothing more than an advertisement.

If someone bids on Ebay, they figure it is a legal contract and if this $tealership gets away with this, it will hurt Ebay so bad (due to all the people that have seen this) that it will have absolutely no meaning to alot of people.
 
I emailed the seller. All I wrote was CROOKS. Got a response from them saying bla bla fine print in ad etc...I sent them back a post from another board that had a list of all the car sites that have this thread going:
-its on VWVortex/Mwerks/Speedarena
there's 110,000 users
-It's now on Anandtech, that 120k users right there.
-it's now on my forums (forums.dieselstation.com) as well as genmay.net
-as of now its on S10forum.com
-It's on MR2 Forums now.
-well I heard about this on neons.org so there is another 14,000
-posted on clubsi
-Its on Focal Jet
-Also on Club-Focus.net
-I posted it on LS1.com
-Posted at http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/s...hreadid=104849
-saw a link to here on www.honda-tech.com made one on www.clubrsx.com
-Smile your on the SR20forum.com also.
-It has been added to two of my sites and I am listing it on more.
FordForums.com 10k members
-and S10 Forum 13k members
-Saw the story and link on IS300.NET
-Posted a copy on The Galant Center
-making thread at www.3si.org
-Its over on club3g.com now
-You have three more boards its posted on
www.cosr.com (colorado street racing)
www.coloradoracing.net (CRN)
www.rmmoc.com (rocky mountain mr2 owners club)
-i read this on www.v6performance.net
[http://www.v6performance.net/forums...1012#post201012]
-posted it at on my board The OWNED! Forums
-just thought id let ya know we at Fresh Alloy wish ya luck
-www.corral.net
-This has made it's way to Supraforums. 33,000+ members
-I read it on www.team-ma.com and www.focaljet.com and now it is on
www.protege5.com (6,544 members).
-http://www.mpvclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4801
http://www.myfordfocus.com/forum/sh...;threadid=13360
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/s...threadid=122860
http://www.ptcruiserclub.org/cgi-lo...e=unread#unread
http://www.team-socal.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1895
Plus sending this to a dozen or so relatives in Arizona, give em hell.
-Here comes Team-SoCal
-you've made it onto the 4x4 scene
-Now Posted on www.celica.net
Now at www.toyotanation.com
-Read at http://www.e46fanatics.com
-it's also on evolutionm.net
-also posted on these forums if not already by carbonfiber (clubsi)
evolutionm.net (lancer forum)
shadwo-racer.com
clubrsx.com
altimas.net
e46fanatics.com
hondaacura.net
and off-topic.net
-Alright. Its on clubwrx now
-Saw this over at Bimmerforums.com
-I posted it on the rx-7club forum.(36k+members)
-Just read about it on roadfly.org (BMW forum)
-I've now posted it on stangnet.com
-www.albertacelicas.org and the Canadian GT4 list
-Its on www.turbobuick.com and www.fullsizechevy.com
-You've got this on OffTopic.com(60k members)
-Now posted on www.dsmtalk.com, www.dsmtuners.com
-read it a www.okdhm.com and www.3si.org
-read this on v6performance.net
-Saw this at
http://www.mini2.com/
-It's on G20.net now
-I just saw this posted on www.j-body.org
-Its now over on dvdtalk!
-I too read about it on my own small Ottawa automotive forums
-I posted it on www.toyota-4runner.org too
-It is now on
www.maxima.org
www.nissanperformancemag.com
www.b15sentra.net
www.thevboard.com
-RX7club knows about you!!
www.nopistons.com
www.turbodieselregister.com
www.csramotorsports.com/phbb2
and more!!!!
-Found the link on http://www.hyundaiperformance.com/
Posted to:
http://pub108.ezboard.com/bhyundaisantafemessageboard
-I got this link from www.xtremesaturn.com (3400 members)
-this thread is also on www.contour.org and i am not sure exactly how many
users but there are alot of us and i posted it on www.jburg.net as well
(north georgia auto forums)
-posted on http://www.clubb5.com
-I put this up at the Brevard Motorsports forum (306 members and growing
-saw this on www.honda-tech.com 60k plus members there
-I just posted this over at MustangWorld and GFY Racing
-It is now on:
teamfc3s.org
improvedtouring.com
toronto-subaru-club.com
torontoaccords.com
-www.sqc-ny.com as well
- www.neweclipse.org
-Posted to Probetalk.com/forums and Preludeonline.com
-BodyBuilding: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...threadid=183508
S-seriesforum.com:
http://www.s-seriesforum.com/forum/...mp;pagenumber=1
-just added this to http://corner-carvers.com/forums/index.php
-F-body Addict Message Board.
-it's now on
www.mx-3.com
www.acura-legend.com
www.performance-shop.com
Think they'll lose some business?
 
E-Bay BS

I sent the dealer a response, here is his reply.


NOTE

We reserve the right to notify bidders and cancel this auction AT ANY TIME

This is the exact language that appeared in our e-bay listing. We did
receive a bid from an outside source at a higher price and excersized our
right to pull the auction.

We did have another brand new red Evo in stock and offered it to the high
e-bay bidder for a similar price and have not heard back from the bidder.

----- Original Message -----
From: <cruzn57@yahoo.com>
To: <scottsdalesales@algxmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 6:06 AM
Subject: Question from eBay Member


>
> This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system.
> If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member
and
> not through eBay.
>
> eBay Marketplace Safety Tip:
> If this email is an offer to sell your item without winning the listing
> on eBay, please report it to us at
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-non-ebay-sale.html.
> Please do not respond to it. Regardless of the apparent feedback of the
> sender or any claims they might make, such an offer is not only against
our
> rules, but it is extremely risky. It is unsafe to purchase such an item
through
> a transaction that is not out our site. You will lose the benefit of
eBay's
> purchase protection programs, and run the risk of losing your money.
>
> --------------------
>
>
> To member: marks_auto
> From member: cruzn57
>
> --------------------
>
>
> Just to let you know, word is spreading, FAST,that you are unethical, and
do not honor rules and legal binding contracts, I'm sure by now you have
recieved enough emails , that you wish you had honored that contract, on
ebay.
> the word is spreading!
>
 
I got that response from them too.
 
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