Anyone running a Mega Squirt on there Buick yet?

ttypewe4jim

pa turbo buick racing
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I posted this in the general section because it gets more traffic, and I'm not sure weather to put it into the aftermarket ecm section or stock section :confused: Ive been doing allot of reading about the Mega Squirt systems and am getting VERY egger to try one out on a tr. I was just wondering if there is anyone out there running one yet I know I cant think of anyone who has even really talked about it. For the people who do not know MS is basically a DIY endlessly customizable ECM that works like a dfi or fast system. I really like the way how customizable it is and I also like the way it is a open source style project. Here is some info about what MS actually is http://www.megasquirt.info/


thanks allot in advance,
Jim Barnes

Mods please do not move this as Id like to see it get the most traffic it can :D
 
Mega Squirt?

Isn't that a porn movie? :eek:

Just kidding. Looks like something for people like Bruce. I'd rather buy a plug and play. May save $$ and time in the long run for me.
 
If you're into it, it will be a fun project. By default the megasquirt can only support up to 20 lbs of boost. After that, the website says you need to use a different map sensor and some code needs to be re-written and recompiled.

Megasquirt is more of an electronics exercise than a tuning exercise. Well, its all encompassing, but you will spend a significant amount of time working out electronic and wiring issues before you get to tuning. Be prepared for that.

One cool thing is that it supports DIY WB-02.

Where's Bruce-eeee?
 
DMan said:
If you're into it, it will be a fun project. By default the megasquirt can only support up to 20 lbs of boost. After that, the website says you need to use a different map sensor and some code needs to be re-written and recompiled.

Megasquirt is more of an electronics exercise than a tuning exercise. Well, its all encompassing, but you will spend a significant amount of time working out electronic and wiring issues before you get to tuning. Be prepared for that.

One cool thing is that it supports DIY WB-02.

Where's Bruce-eeee?

There Are tables out there for 5 bar map sensor support. I realize that it would be more of a wiring project BUT with that being said it wouldn't be that hard since they can now control IAC and knock sensors it would litterly just be a matter of making a jumper to the right pin outs and then taping the ing. system. Honestly its no different then a DFI system its just "your the engineer in a way" rather then paying for a plug and play kit. I think there is going to be more and more development for this box in the coming months.

*edit*

Also forgot the 2.5 bar map is on the II generation MS but if you run the second gen. boxes as of right now you can not use the MegasquirtnSpark which is the **** for tuning a car. Also the nitrous control is supposed to be pretty good that is if you aren't afraid of the blue bottle :eek: :biggrin:
 
I agree. It will be interesting to see how this comes along in the next couple of years. The website says there are about 1000 users with Megasquirt out there already.

YOU could be the next member of that ELITE group! :D

In fact, you could be the turbo buick representative, and lobby for turbo buick - related code changes to embed control for water/alcohol injection, programmable audible knock alerts, EGT and whatnot! :cool:
 
DMan said:
I agree. It will be interesting to see how this comes along in the next couple of years. The website says there are about 1000 users with Megasquirt out there already.

YOU could be the next member of that ELITE group! :D

In fact, you could be the turbo buick representative, and lobby for turbo buick - related code changes to embed control for water/alcohol injection, programmable audible knock alerts, EGT and whatnot! :cool:

Not can will :eek: but if you know me I kinda like to push cars alittle to far so ya I might not be the best person to ask about tuning :rolleyes: as of right now I need to get my car running before I do anything and that requires money which is something I don't have..... Today/tonight I'm going to start making a schematic for how to hook one up to the factory harness. Besides whats cooler then having a fully tune-able system for like 400 tops :eek: and thats if your not afraid of a soldiering(sp) gun lol. But reading the forums last night there was a tr person who talked about doing a MS on there car but I cant find the post now or remeber the nickname :mad:
 
ttypewe4jim said:
Besides whats cooler then having a fully tune-able system for like 400 tops


Does that include the WBO2? The reason I ask, is because I sell used FAST systems w/WBO2 for $1000. Heck, you can get a brand new one without the WBO2 for close to $1000. I understand there is a $600 price diference, just wondering if we're comparing apples to apples.
 
HighPSI said:
Does that include the WBO2? The reason I ask, is because I sell used FAST systems w/WBO2 for $1000. Heck, you can get a brand new one without the WBO2 for close to $1000. I understand there is a $600 price difference, just wondering if we're comparing apples to apples.


MegaSquirt-I Programmable EFI System PCB3.0 - UnAssembled Kit $189.00

Innovate LC-1 Digital Wideband Controller $149.00 (if you go that route)

Or if you are doing this project to learn you can go with this style WB02 http://www.msefi.com/msinfo/PWC/FAQ.htm


There are endless ways to take this trust me. But if you don't understand electronics and are not computer savvy (if you make a custom tuning interface for instance) then this is not for you I will agree there. But I don't think its comparing apples to oranges IMO its far from that.

There is also this route for doing a wb02 http://www.aces.edu/~gparmer/efi/temp/wb/guide.html but the sensor in the article is kinda expensive Ive seen some that where way cheaper
 
Thanks Jim. The only experience I have with the Mega Squirt was a local guy with a sbc. He didn't have an electronics background and had a few problems. Not sure if he ever got it running. That's still a cheap price for a closed loop WBO2 setup if someone has the time (Bruce?)
 
HighPSI said:
Thanks Jim. The only experience I have with the Mega Squirt was a local guy with a sbc. He didn't have an electronics background and had a few problems. Not sure if he ever got it running. That's still a cheap price for a closed loop WBO2 setup if someone has the time (Bruce?)


I can honestly say it wouldnt take more then 2 or 3 hours to assemble the boxes. The info is out there you just need to find it. I think for someone who is into modding things (diffently me :)) this is the BEST way to go because just like the xfi has the ability to log an input like oil pressure I dont see why the MS couldnt do it. The hardest part about it would be writing the code for the program to view it. Next time I see you on #t6p we will talk more about it. Honestly Im not worried about making the kit or geting that working like I am tuning it :eek: Time for school tough so this will have to wait till later :D
 
I've had mine on a motor (albeit not a TB) and running for under $500 with an LC-1 WB. The differences to get it running with C3I is in the wiring and software, so the expense should be the same or nearly so.
 
theres a guy on the hot rod forums, sn is deislegeek. He tunes the mega squirt on the blue turbo truck that was on dragweek, you may want to go over there and send him a pm, he's a cool guy to deal with.
 
Ssmnt408 said:
theres a guy on the hot rod forums, sn is deislegeek. He tunes the mega squirt on the blue turbo truck that was on dragweek, you may want to go over there and send him a pm, he's a cool guy to deal with.

Parish owns that truck....yes thats a insane truck hopefully itll be the quickest in the country soon :eek:
 
Parish is running a MS setup. He won an XFI at dragweek and sold it. I had just talked to him about that. He seems to like the MS setup. He's putting together a new setup for his truck and said it was going to be a slow process. He posted some pic's of his new DIY twin turbo setup, he's going to run GTS70's. He said he really didn't plan to go much faster, but you never know. I think we'll see some single digit runs.
 
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