Now That I Have Your Attention This Is Not A 5 Sec Motor!
Yesterday July 7,2006 I Got My G.n. Motor Back From The Machine Shop. One Might Say Not Such A Big Deal But It Has Been There For Three Years. Wtf You Say !thats What Ive Been Sayin For Three Years, Wtf!
It Has Been A Long And Tedious Battle With Mark, The Machinist. To Be Perfectly Honest I Gave Him A Year And A Half To Do This Job Because He Said He Was Too Busy To Take On Any New Jobs.
He Did End Up Accepting The Job On My Terms But Only After I Flashed A Whole Lot Of Hundreds At Him,(20 To Be Exact) That Was Just The Down Payment For Machine Work. I Supplyed All The Parts Except For Bearings And I (think) That Is Where All The Problems Started.
Well Anyway A Year Goes By And Im Thinking When Is Mark Gonna Call And Say Its Done, But That Call Never Comes. Trying To Be The Patient Person That I Am.......(not) I Wait A Few More Weeks But Still No Phone Call So I Will Make The Call. This Is Where The Fun Starts.
Hi Mark Hows Things, Hows The Motor Coming? I Havent Touched It Yet He Says Ive Had A Lot Of Small Jobs Come In Lately , I Need More Time. More Time I Say How Much More? He Says Give Me Three Months And I Should Be Cought Up Enough To Start Yours And Im Thinging "your Got To Be Kidding" But In Reality I Dont Even Have A Car To Put It In Yet So I Say See You Three Months.
Three Months To The Day I Get The Call" Ive Got Your Block Cleaned Ready For Machining But..............here's The Problem " I Dont Have The Eqipment I Need To Machine Your Billet Main Caps But I Deal With A Guy Who Does, He Is Just A Little Backed Up Right Now, About A Month, And I Cant Do Any Other Work Until Those Caps Are On The Block And It Is Align Bored And Honed.
Im Thinking "excuse" But Makes Sence Cause If The Line Bore Is Not Straight Nothing Else Will Be Either. About Two Months Later He Calls And Says I Got Your Block Back W/caps Installed "looks Really Nice" But........... I Just Realized I Need A New Set Of Stones To Do The Finish Hone But That Will Only Take A Few Days. Yeah Right More Excuses!
Finally Arp Studs And 4 Billet Steel Main Caps Installed W/flawless Hone Job And Im Thinking Were On A Roll
Shouldnt Be Long Now....... Right?.......not.
He Says Im Ready To Install The Crank (eagle Billet) But I Cant Find Your Bearings, "i Say Did You Buy Them Yet" And After Some Arguing He Finally Remembers He Was Going To Buy Them. Two More Weeks Go Bye And I Get The Call, I Got Your Bearings In Yesterday, Did The Preassembly On The Crank, Checked Endplay, Everything Is Good, It Spins Very Nice, But..........."oh **** Here It Comes More Excuses" ..........i Have Torque Plates For Every Motor Except The Buick 3.8l. If You Want Me To Use Torque Plates When I Do The Cylinder Bore Im Going To Have To Buy Some. Dumb Question Ofcourse I Want You To Use Them!
It Is Going To Take A Couple Of Weeks He Said. Wtf I Said!.
Another Month Goes By He Calls And Says He Has The Plates And He Is Almost Ready To Start The Cylinder Boring But..........."i Took On Some New Jobs In The Last Month That I Have To Finish To Pay Some Bills, As Soon As They Are Done You Will Be Back On Top".
Now Im Getting Really Anoyed But I Almost Understand And I Still Dont Have The Car So I Say Whatever. Yet Another Month Goes By And He Calls To Tell Me The Cylinder Boring And Finish Hone Are Done And That He Is On To The Preassembly Of The Block. Finally Right?
He Assembled Rods And Pistons, File Fit The Rings, Installed Cam Bearings, Roller Cam, Installed Crank, Piston&rod Assembly, Checked For Any Clearence Issues And Resolved The Ones He Said He Found.
All Is Well With Preassembly So It Is Time To Dissasemble Everything For Balancing But.......... Now He Tells Me He Didnt Realize That The Buick Motors Need Special Bob Weights That He Does Not Have. "****ing Outstanding I Say How Long Is This Gunna Take"
He Tells Me That" Because It It Coming Out Of His Pocket And They Are Not Cheap It Might Take Awhile". Again More Time Goes By And More Jobs That Bump Me Back. Finally Back On Top, Dont Know How Long Its Been Now, Weights Came In, Crank, Rods, Pistons Ballanced But, And This Is Where The **** Starts To Get Deep, Somehow The Brand New Out Of The Box Centerforce Billet Flywheel I Supplyed Is Not Flat And Needs To Be Ground.
He Tells Me You Have To Expect Problems Like These When All Of Your Parts Are Second Hand Mailorder.
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Apearently If You Dont Buy Your Parts From Him The Parts Are All Junk.
Ok Flywheel Is Now Flat (again) And Balanced. Now To Balance Stock Damper. He Tells Me That Because The Factory Damper Is For An Externally Balanced Assembly And Now Mine Is Internally Balanced He Has To Cut Off The Counterweight And Drill Alot Of Holes To Make It Right.
A Week Later I Get The Call "hey I Did All The Machining On Your Balancer, It Looks Beautiful, But............when I Went To Install It On The Crank For Balancing The Light Hit It Just Right And I Found A Crack By The Keyway".
The Funny Thing About The Crack He (found) Is That In The Beginning That Damper Was A Press Fit On The Crank And After His Machining It Was A Slip Fit. Go Figure.
So Now After Some Searching To Find A New One I Find Bhj Dynamics Inc. They Have A Very Nice Balancer For The Buick That Is Already Interally Balanced, S.f.i. Approved, And An Optional Trigger Wheel For The Ignition. Well After A Month I Was Able To Buy It But In The Meantime I Got Bumped Back Yet Again. "call Me In A Month It Will Be All Done". Fast Forward Another Month, "hey Mark Hows It Looking" Yet Again He Tells Me That He Need To Bring In Some Money For The Buisness So He Had To Take On Some New Jobs.
This Is Where I Loose It, I Proceed To Throw All His Excuses , Lies, And Bull**** In His Face And We Get Into A Legnthy Argument About How Impatient I Am And How All My Parts Were Junk And He Doesnt Understand Why I Am Wasting His Time Building A "pathetic V6 That Will Never Make Any Real Power " Then When I Told The Little Prick That He Had A Week To Finish The Job He Told Me That The Only Way That Was Going To Happen Was In Pieces.
I Calmed Myself, Then I Proceded To Inform Him That I Was Going To Hang Up The Phone And Make Two Calls, One To The Better Buisness Beauro, And One To My Lawyer.
I Hung Up And Called My Wife To See How Her Day Was Going And Tell Her About Mine We Talk For A Little While, In The Meantime My Call- Waiting Was Blowing Up With Calls From The Machine Shop.
I Let Him Sweat It Out For Awhile, Hung Up With My Wife And Waited For Him To Call Back. When He Did He Had A Totally Different Aditude.
He Called To Appolagize And To Let Me Know That The Engine Would Be Completely Finished On The 7th.
When I Show Up On The 7th He Is All Smiles And Apolajetic
And Tells Me How I Had Just Cought Him On A Bad Day, Like I Give A **** At This Point, And He Tells Me About The Things He Did And Isnt Going To Charge Me For. All Told It Cost Me About $2800.00 For Labor , Three Years, And Lots Of Headaches To Get A Motor That I Am Not Sure He Didnt Sabotage, Especially Considering His Warranty Is As Followes, And I Quote "all Work Done On A Best Effort Basis Only. No Warranty On Race, Partial Assemblys, High Performance, Or Turbo Charged Engines"
The Irony Of This Story Is The Local Grand National Guru Told Me In The Begining About A Machine Shop That Specialize's In These Motors And They Said They Could Do It But They Would Need While But It Would Cost More.
I Went With Mark For A Couple Of Different Reasons Money, Locality, And Two Recomendations From A Friend And A Nieghbor. Well About A Year Into This Endeavor My Nieghbor Got His Nitrous Ready 302 Back From Mark And Within The First 50 Miles Of Breakin The Two Nuts On The Connecting Rod He Forgot To Torque Fell Into The Oil Pan At Around 3000 R.p.m. (i Think You Can Figure Out The Rest). Luckily My Friend Has Not Fired Up His 351w Yet And We Are Going To Open It Up And Check Everything. Needless To Say I Am Going To Do The Same.
I Guess The Moral Of The Story Is Just Because You Are Saving Money Doesnt Mean You Are Going To Save Time (and Im Pretty Sure I Got Ripped Off In Time And Money)
Thank You For Reading This And Watch Out For *******s Like Mark.
Yesterday July 7,2006 I Got My G.n. Motor Back From The Machine Shop. One Might Say Not Such A Big Deal But It Has Been There For Three Years. Wtf You Say !thats What Ive Been Sayin For Three Years, Wtf!
It Has Been A Long And Tedious Battle With Mark, The Machinist. To Be Perfectly Honest I Gave Him A Year And A Half To Do This Job Because He Said He Was Too Busy To Take On Any New Jobs.
He Did End Up Accepting The Job On My Terms But Only After I Flashed A Whole Lot Of Hundreds At Him,(20 To Be Exact) That Was Just The Down Payment For Machine Work. I Supplyed All The Parts Except For Bearings And I (think) That Is Where All The Problems Started.
Well Anyway A Year Goes By And Im Thinking When Is Mark Gonna Call And Say Its Done, But That Call Never Comes. Trying To Be The Patient Person That I Am.......(not) I Wait A Few More Weeks But Still No Phone Call So I Will Make The Call. This Is Where The Fun Starts.
Hi Mark Hows Things, Hows The Motor Coming? I Havent Touched It Yet He Says Ive Had A Lot Of Small Jobs Come In Lately , I Need More Time. More Time I Say How Much More? He Says Give Me Three Months And I Should Be Cought Up Enough To Start Yours And Im Thinging "your Got To Be Kidding" But In Reality I Dont Even Have A Car To Put It In Yet So I Say See You Three Months.
Three Months To The Day I Get The Call" Ive Got Your Block Cleaned Ready For Machining But..............here's The Problem " I Dont Have The Eqipment I Need To Machine Your Billet Main Caps But I Deal With A Guy Who Does, He Is Just A Little Backed Up Right Now, About A Month, And I Cant Do Any Other Work Until Those Caps Are On The Block And It Is Align Bored And Honed.
Im Thinking "excuse" But Makes Sence Cause If The Line Bore Is Not Straight Nothing Else Will Be Either. About Two Months Later He Calls And Says I Got Your Block Back W/caps Installed "looks Really Nice" But........... I Just Realized I Need A New Set Of Stones To Do The Finish Hone But That Will Only Take A Few Days. Yeah Right More Excuses!
Finally Arp Studs And 4 Billet Steel Main Caps Installed W/flawless Hone Job And Im Thinking Were On A Roll
Shouldnt Be Long Now....... Right?.......not.
He Says Im Ready To Install The Crank (eagle Billet) But I Cant Find Your Bearings, "i Say Did You Buy Them Yet" And After Some Arguing He Finally Remembers He Was Going To Buy Them. Two More Weeks Go Bye And I Get The Call, I Got Your Bearings In Yesterday, Did The Preassembly On The Crank, Checked Endplay, Everything Is Good, It Spins Very Nice, But..........."oh **** Here It Comes More Excuses" ..........i Have Torque Plates For Every Motor Except The Buick 3.8l. If You Want Me To Use Torque Plates When I Do The Cylinder Bore Im Going To Have To Buy Some. Dumb Question Ofcourse I Want You To Use Them!
It Is Going To Take A Couple Of Weeks He Said. Wtf I Said!.
Another Month Goes By He Calls And Says He Has The Plates And He Is Almost Ready To Start The Cylinder Boring But..........."i Took On Some New Jobs In The Last Month That I Have To Finish To Pay Some Bills, As Soon As They Are Done You Will Be Back On Top".
Now Im Getting Really Anoyed But I Almost Understand And I Still Dont Have The Car So I Say Whatever. Yet Another Month Goes By And He Calls To Tell Me The Cylinder Boring And Finish Hone Are Done And That He Is On To The Preassembly Of The Block. Finally Right?
He Assembled Rods And Pistons, File Fit The Rings, Installed Cam Bearings, Roller Cam, Installed Crank, Piston&rod Assembly, Checked For Any Clearence Issues And Resolved The Ones He Said He Found.
All Is Well With Preassembly So It Is Time To Dissasemble Everything For Balancing But.......... Now He Tells Me He Didnt Realize That The Buick Motors Need Special Bob Weights That He Does Not Have. "****ing Outstanding I Say How Long Is This Gunna Take"
He Tells Me That" Because It It Coming Out Of His Pocket And They Are Not Cheap It Might Take Awhile". Again More Time Goes By And More Jobs That Bump Me Back. Finally Back On Top, Dont Know How Long Its Been Now, Weights Came In, Crank, Rods, Pistons Ballanced But, And This Is Where The **** Starts To Get Deep, Somehow The Brand New Out Of The Box Centerforce Billet Flywheel I Supplyed Is Not Flat And Needs To Be Ground.
He Tells Me You Have To Expect Problems Like These When All Of Your Parts Are Second Hand Mailorder.
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Apearently If You Dont Buy Your Parts From Him The Parts Are All Junk.
Ok Flywheel Is Now Flat (again) And Balanced. Now To Balance Stock Damper. He Tells Me That Because The Factory Damper Is For An Externally Balanced Assembly And Now Mine Is Internally Balanced He Has To Cut Off The Counterweight And Drill Alot Of Holes To Make It Right.
A Week Later I Get The Call "hey I Did All The Machining On Your Balancer, It Looks Beautiful, But............when I Went To Install It On The Crank For Balancing The Light Hit It Just Right And I Found A Crack By The Keyway".
The Funny Thing About The Crack He (found) Is That In The Beginning That Damper Was A Press Fit On The Crank And After His Machining It Was A Slip Fit. Go Figure.
So Now After Some Searching To Find A New One I Find Bhj Dynamics Inc. They Have A Very Nice Balancer For The Buick That Is Already Interally Balanced, S.f.i. Approved, And An Optional Trigger Wheel For The Ignition. Well After A Month I Was Able To Buy It But In The Meantime I Got Bumped Back Yet Again. "call Me In A Month It Will Be All Done". Fast Forward Another Month, "hey Mark Hows It Looking" Yet Again He Tells Me That He Need To Bring In Some Money For The Buisness So He Had To Take On Some New Jobs.
This Is Where I Loose It, I Proceed To Throw All His Excuses , Lies, And Bull**** In His Face And We Get Into A Legnthy Argument About How Impatient I Am And How All My Parts Were Junk And He Doesnt Understand Why I Am Wasting His Time Building A "pathetic V6 That Will Never Make Any Real Power " Then When I Told The Little Prick That He Had A Week To Finish The Job He Told Me That The Only Way That Was Going To Happen Was In Pieces.
I Calmed Myself, Then I Proceded To Inform Him That I Was Going To Hang Up The Phone And Make Two Calls, One To The Better Buisness Beauro, And One To My Lawyer.
I Hung Up And Called My Wife To See How Her Day Was Going And Tell Her About Mine We Talk For A Little While, In The Meantime My Call- Waiting Was Blowing Up With Calls From The Machine Shop.
I Let Him Sweat It Out For Awhile, Hung Up With My Wife And Waited For Him To Call Back. When He Did He Had A Totally Different Aditude.
He Called To Appolagize And To Let Me Know That The Engine Would Be Completely Finished On The 7th.
When I Show Up On The 7th He Is All Smiles And Apolajetic
And Tells Me How I Had Just Cought Him On A Bad Day, Like I Give A **** At This Point, And He Tells Me About The Things He Did And Isnt Going To Charge Me For. All Told It Cost Me About $2800.00 For Labor , Three Years, And Lots Of Headaches To Get A Motor That I Am Not Sure He Didnt Sabotage, Especially Considering His Warranty Is As Followes, And I Quote "all Work Done On A Best Effort Basis Only. No Warranty On Race, Partial Assemblys, High Performance, Or Turbo Charged Engines"
The Irony Of This Story Is The Local Grand National Guru Told Me In The Begining About A Machine Shop That Specialize's In These Motors And They Said They Could Do It But They Would Need While But It Would Cost More.
I Went With Mark For A Couple Of Different Reasons Money, Locality, And Two Recomendations From A Friend And A Nieghbor. Well About A Year Into This Endeavor My Nieghbor Got His Nitrous Ready 302 Back From Mark And Within The First 50 Miles Of Breakin The Two Nuts On The Connecting Rod He Forgot To Torque Fell Into The Oil Pan At Around 3000 R.p.m. (i Think You Can Figure Out The Rest). Luckily My Friend Has Not Fired Up His 351w Yet And We Are Going To Open It Up And Check Everything. Needless To Say I Am Going To Do The Same.
I Guess The Moral Of The Story Is Just Because You Are Saving Money Doesnt Mean You Are Going To Save Time (and Im Pretty Sure I Got Ripped Off In Time And Money)
Thank You For Reading This And Watch Out For *******s Like Mark.
