2011 Buick Performance Group T Party - July 29, 30, 31st 2011 Flyer attached

[gbsean]

The Buick Performance Group in conjunction with Turbo Trans AM.Com present the Buick Performance Group T Party...

Buick Performance T Party...bring your TTA's and Turbo T types.....get no respect...from other Pontiacs....do the GN's keep you in the shadows... now is your time to shine,,,,

TTA Reunion Aug. 2011 in Ohio? Yes? No? Maybe? Post your thoughts/ideas - Turbo Trans Am Forum

TTA's are always welcome and we had thought about including you guys in 2010 but thought that with the Stage 1 Convention you still would be in the shadows...you are still welcome in 2010 and if you come up with 8 cars to Race you can have your own Drag Racing Event...King of the TTA's sort of thing....

 

[V8Assassin]

saw this earlier

sounds like a fun event

 

[phillyturbosix]

Just an update on the Turbo Trans Am end of this amazing event for next year!!

OK boys are you ready for our special guest attending the TTA reunion next year at National Trail Raceway in Hebron, Ohio...

Attending the 1989 Pontiac Turbo Trans Am reunion next year will be the one and only. Mister Turbo Trans Am, Mister PAS him self....

SCOTT KELLY

I am so fired up Scott is going to attend our event!! It's been hard holding it back and I leaked the news out to a few members but Scott Kelly is/was PAS. He test drove each and every one of your cars when they rolled out of PAS in 1989!! These cars all deserve to head back to the BPG event in Ohio next year and see their creator once again! Scott is excited about the event and can't wait to see a long line of TTA's sitting in the pits at National Trail Raceway next year! He is working on some projects for the TTA's that will be announcing shortly! He misses the TTA's dearly and told me it was one of the most special projects he's ever done! So let's show Scott how each and every one of the TTA owners out there are nothing but first class and bring our TTA's out to this event next year! Some way, in any shape or form, get your TTA out to Ohio next year for this event and let's all make history!

This news blew me away when he said he would attend this event. After all without him there would never have been an 1989 turbo Trans AM!

Here is a little info on Scott Kelly for those that don't know him....

Scott Kelly was instrumental in the development and production of the 1989 20th Anniversary Trans Am. Scott served as the Engineering Liaison between PAS and General Motors throughout the program as well as being responsible for the all of the Trans Ams used during the month of May 1989 including the 3 actual Pace Cars. After the Trans Am program Scott worked as the Service and Warranty administrator for the Anniversary Trans Am, Syclone, Typhoon, Sonoma GT as well as Natural Gas powered trucks that PAS produced until 1994.

Scott and his Wife Ann currently own a small automotive technical writing company name Kelly Automobile Technologies that specialized in vehicle proposals, technical papers and marketing materials. Ann and Scott met under the hood of a prototype 20th Anniversary Trans Am in 1988 as Ann was tasked by Pontiac to develop the Owner’s Manual Supplement for the car.

I mean how cool is this news! The one and only Scott Kelly will be there next year in Ohio.

OK so now... Here is what we are working on for next year at the TTA reunion...

We are going to have possibly 2 or more Q&A sessions with Scott Kelly in the Jegs suite at the track. If attendance grows over the size of the Jegs suite we may relocated this Q&A session but we'll work on that as time gets closer. For now we have secured the suite all weekend thanks to BPG. The suite looks down the quarter mile and it's got cold AC! Scott will bring some never before seen pictures and documents from the making of the TTA back in 1989! We will show them while Scott tells us all about how the TTA came to life and the entire history behind the cars.

This is why we started the thread about questions on these cars because we have the man himself going to answer them for you at this event! I have spoke to Scott many times on the phone over the last year and some of the information he has gives me chills! Never before known facts about these cars will now be all out in the open! Trust me if you have the love for these cars that I do, this is something you do not want to miss!

Also... We will have dash plaques made for this event. On these plaques we will have a place for each and every TTA owner to write his name, vin, and car number. We will then take a picture of Scott Kelly, you, and the plaque in front of your car! How cool is that! You will be able to have a picture of your TTA with Scott showing that you were there! That should drive the prices up of your TTA's value!

Any means you have no matter how far away, if you own a TTA you have to get it out to Ohio next year for this event! Low miles, High miles, Garage queens and junk yard kings we want to see them ALL there next year in Ohio! This is event is every reason why we all own and love our 1989 turbo trans am's. Now it's time to bring them back together for the first time EVER with their creator. It just does not get any better then this! It's a year away and I'm so excited I wish it was tomorrow! These cars were always considered the red headed step child of the Pontiac world, well now it's time to show them how we can all come together once again! This event will be history in the making.

We have contacted Hemming's, Pontiac Enthusiasts, GM High Tech, and other publications to cover this event. So start your engines blow the cob webs off and get your TTA out to National Trail Raceway one way or another next year!

We also have other special guest that will be added as time passes on! We are not done yet! So stay tunned and find a way to get your TTA out to Ohio next year!

I would also like the thank BPG (Buick Performance Group) for letting us use this venue for a history making event like this. The BPG has done some amazing events at this location over the past few years like the GSX reunion and the Stage 1 reunion to name a few. They are a first class operation all the way. I was extremely pleased when they reached out to host the 1989 turbo trans am reunion at their location. If you want to know more about the BPG and or join their club, follow this link... The Buick Performance Group

members of the BPG do receive discounted ticket prices at the event next year so you may want to join the BPG to save some money on admission, show, and race fee's next year. It's a great group of guys and well worth the membership money.

Below is a never before seen picture of Scott Kelly and the TTA's at Indy! This is only one of the amazing picture collection Scott Kelly will share with us next year in Ohio at the reunion. Scott wants to repeat this picture in Ohio next year so bring those TTA's out!

 

[VETKILR]

Going to be awesome!

 

[scot w.]

Vendors needing $1,000,000.00 in insurance?

I just read my papers for this event and as a vendor National Trail Raceway is saying (right off the paper) "All vendors MUST provide a Certificate on Insurance naming National Trail Raceway and The Buick Performance group as additional insured's. The "Minimum" limit of liability must be no less than $1,000,000.00 (YES that's ONE MILLION Dollars) and the certificate Must cover the dates of the event".

NOW THAT IS REDICULOUS! Can someone explain why the hell vendors would have to carry THAT MUCH insurance? or even any insurance at all?

** Never needed it last year for the GNX reunion, Why now? **


Looks like you can count us out! Because I will be damned if I am going to pay for insurance for just to stand behind my booth at one event when NONE of the other events need this..

Looks like National Trail Raceway is helping The Buick Performance Group right out of an event!

I hope i'm wrong on this but I have the form right in front of me.. Hope someone can shed some light....


Scot W.

 

[gbsean]

simple answer..it will cost you about $100 for that insurance...if your table/tent whatever that you set up falls over and kills/maims/injures somebody who is responsible...the track...BPG...or are they going to sue you and take everything you own because you had no insurance against something like that happening...now on a side note...you sent an e-mail to Tony asking about this very issue and before he could contact me for an explanation as to why we need insurance you make this post before he could reply to your e-mail. You have all my contact information feel free to contact me for further explination

 

[scot w.]

simple answer..it will cost you about $100 for that insurance...if your table/tent whatever that you set up falls over and kills/maims/injures somebody who is responsible...the track...BPG...or are they going to sue you and take everything you own because you had no insurance against something like that happening...now on a side note...you sent an e-mail to Tony asking about this very issue and before he could contact me for an explanation as to why we need insurance you make this post before he could reply to your e-mail. You have all my contact information feel free to contact me for further explination

Yes I did send a e-mail to tony very late last night and then thought it would be no big deal to post it up and ask here also. I'm not trying to be hard here but just trying to understand WHY this is the only track that has this kind of requirement in place.

Vendors stuff just does'nt Fall Over unless it has something to do with mother nature but I guess in the Very unlikely event that it does I guess it would cover things, with that said, so what your telling us is that the tracks insurance (That Should cover an event happening On Their Property) doesn't cover any accidents by a storm or national disaster including peoples cars, Tents, trailers, RV's? What about the racers tents that are set up? what if those fall and Kill, Mame or injure someone? Does the track cover their stuff for injurys? and if so why not the vendors, we have traveled their just like the racers, set up tents just like the racers!! See my point?

So this is another $100 (guesetimate) expense just for this event only?

Why didn't we have to pay it last year and now this year?

Why only National Trail Raceway and not BG, Reynolds, Bristol, Piedmont, etc?



We will have to think this one over...


Scot W.
GNS

 

[gbsean]

I do understand your concern...at "other" event you would be personally responsible for any harm your business may or may not cause. this is why swap meet guys are not covered and we had to fight the insurance company on that..You Business Insurance may already have coverage for this. We do not charge for Vending..Now it is not to say that you show up and do not have ins as with most of the vendors did not....but you cannot say we did not notify you of the insurance companies requirements...This year was the 1st year we had to PROVIDE OUR OWN INSURANCE COVERAGE. We were not covered by the tracks blanket insurance. There are also only 2 insurance companies in the country that will cover Events like ours so we have to abide by their rules..Now that being said my scenario was a worst case...but if something was to happen and you did not have that coverage the BPG and Tracks Insurance company would deny the claim and we all get sued personally..you your business...with the BPG it would be the BPG and all the Board of Directors...Check with your business insurance broker...it may even be free...blame it on all the frivolous lawsuits that you hear about everyday.

 

[Just a Six??]

If I am there as a vendor trying to make new contacts, show my wares & hopefully sell some products & make a few $$ to help cover the cost of the show, then just call it part of your advertising budget that goes along with any business venture.

 

[Brad Conley]

Scot and others...

Requiring a Certificate of Insurance is becoming more and more common everyday from commercial enterprises. I type them out all day long.

If you are in a "business" and have a reasonable expectation to earn a profit from that "business", none of your personal liability coverages will respond to a claim against you. No homeowner policy, personal auto policy or umbrella policy will protect you in case your "business" injures someone or damages their property.

The track's insurance covers them, NTR, as the named insured. It will not (nor has any policy ever) protected a person or entity that was not named as an insured on the policy. It is up to you, as the "business" owner to secure your own coverage to protect yourself. Always has been, always will be. If you do not have coverage now, you need to secure it to protect yourself from damages you or your product cause to others. The biggest threat is not that you or your product did anything wrong, but the allegation and potential lawsuit that you or your product injured someone or damaged their property. Lawyers cost money. Lots of it. If you don't have insurance, you are putting everything you have ever worked for at risk, even if the court finds you did nothing wrong. Just the defense will wipe you out.

As far as the amount of coverage required, $1,000,000 sounds like a lot of money and it is, but in the real world of litigation, it's nothing. The cost between $300,000 in liability coverage and $1,000,000 in coverage is minimal, maybe at the most 10% per year.

You (and all vendors) should contact your insurance agent (you do have a professional insurance agent and not someone over a telephone, right?) and ask about coverage. If you don't have any, you should. Ask about a "BOP" policy (Business Owners Policy). They are pretty inexpensive and designed for a small businesses such as yours and most other vendors.

Here's an example of why you need insurance coverage, and not involving NTR or BPG. Let's say I buy one of your products and install it in my '86 GN. I park that GN in the same building as my Prototype GSX, the black GSX, the Prototype GNX and several other cars. Just after I install your product, my garage catches fire and everything is destroyed. I think it's your product that caused the GN to catch on fire and thus the rest of my property to be destroyed. You can bet your sweet bippy that I WILL sue you and for everything you have and every hope to have in the future and if I don't, my insurance company WILL sue you anyway after they pay my insured loss.

That's just the way the world works today, like it or not.

 

[scot w.]

I do understand your concern...at "other" event you would be personally responsible for any harm your business may or may not cause. this is why swap meet guys are not covered and we had to fight the insurance company on that..You Business Insurance may already have coverage for this. We do not charge for Vending..Now it is not to say that you show up and do not have ins as with most of the vendors did not....but you cannot say we did not notify you of the insurance companies requirements...This year was the 1st year we had to PROVIDE OUR OWN INSURANCE COVERAGE. We were not covered by the tracks blanket insurance. There are also only 2 insurance companies in the country that will cover Events like ours so we have to abide by their rules..Now that being said my scenario was a worst case...but if something was to happen and you did not have that coverage the BPG and Tracks Insurance company would deny the claim and we all get sued personally..you your business...with the BPG it would be the BPG and all the Board of Directors...Check with your business insurance broker...it may even be free...blame it on all the frivolous lawsuits that you hear about everyday.

Sean thanks for this post, It clears up things much better and I appreciate it. It just sucks that this has come down to this these days with all the insurance crap, Rules and what not when 20 years ago NONE of that was in place and everything was booming. I strongly feel this kind of stuff that is put on the people trying to put on an event, Put on the vendors, Rules enforced for the racers is all going to implode within one day and we will have NOTHING! It's kind of sad if you really stand back and take a glimpse at how everything has evolved in racing. 20-30 yrs ago the stands were alway's Packed at EVERY event and even your local tracks. Now look at them, it's almosy pittyful seeing the stands empty and I put the economy, rules, regulations, requirements nowadays to blame. Track owners don't seem to realize that they can Regulate & Requirment themselves right out of business!


Scot W.

 

[Just a Six??]

Problem is that in the USA everyone Sues everyone for Anything. Thats all I see for commercials on US TV stations. Non stop all day along with court shows suing people constantly! It's just part of life in the USA & people get rich off it or at least they think they are but the lawyers are making the $$$.
Here in Canada its not like that, but I still have to carry insurance & have for almost 30 years incase I do burn down someone's home or car at work on the jobsite.

 

[scot w.]

Scot and others...

Requiring a Certificate of Insurance is becoming more and more common everyday from commercial enterprises. I type them out all day long.

If you are in a "business" and have a reasonable expectation to earn a profit from that "business", none of your personal liability coverages will respond to a claim against you. No homeowner policy, personal auto policy or umbrella policy will protect you in case your "business" injures someone or damages their property.

The track's insurance covers them, NTR, as the named insured. It will not (nor has any policy ever) protected a person or entity that was not named as an insured on the policy. It is up to you, as the "business" owner to secure your own coverage to protect yourself. Always has been, always will be. If you do not have coverage now, you need to secure it to protect yourself from damages you or your product cause to others. The biggest threat is not that you or your product did anything wrong, but the allegation and potential lawsuit that you or your product injured someone or damaged their property. Lawyers cost money. Lots of it. If you don't have insurance, you are putting everything you have ever worked for at risk, even if the court finds you did nothing wrong. Just the defense will wipe you out.

As far as the amount of coverage required, $1,000,000 sounds like a lot of money and it is, but in the real world of litigation, it's nothing. The cost between $300,000 in liability coverage and $1,000,000 in coverage is minimal, maybe at the most 10% per year.

You (and all vendors) should contact your insurance agent (you do have a professional insurance agent and not someone over a telephone, right?) and ask about coverage. If you don't have any, you should. Ask about a "BOP" policy (Business Owners Policy). They are pretty inexpensive and designed for a small businesses such as yours and most other vendors.

Here's an example of why you need insurance coverage, and not involving NTR or BPG. Let's say I buy one of your products and install it in my '86 GN. I park that GN in the same building as my Prototype GSX, the black GSX, the Prototype GNX and several other cars. Just after I install your product, my garage catches fire and everything is destroyed. I think it's your product that caused the GN to catch on fire and thus the rest of my property to be destroyed. You can bet your sweet bippy that I WILL sue you and for everything you have and every hope to have in the future and if I don't, my insurance company WILL sue you anyway after they pay my insured loss.

That's just the way the world works today, like it or not.

Thanks for the info Brad and we will look into the BOP policy or even going Inc.

 

[gbsean]

lol its not the track that dictates the policy...its the stupid people that make the law suits...it is the lack of personal responsibility..you should hear some of the stories that Jim Layton the track manager has told me about lawsuits that have been brought against the track...one was a guy who tried to sue cause his car fell off jack stands...another slammed finger in bathroom stall...all the tracks fault...

 

[Brad Conley]

lol its not the track that dictates the policy...its the stupid people that make the law suits...it is the lack of personal responsibility..you should hear some of the stories that Jim Layton the track manager has told me about lawsuits that have been brought against the track...one was a guy who tried to sue cause his car fell off jack stands...another slammed finger in bathroom stall...all the tracks fault...

I would need my own forum to relate all the stuff I've been privy to over the past 30 years. And Sean is right...it all boils down to a total lack of personal responsibility.

 

[VETKILR]

Glad to see this resolved professionally! Thanks Scott for understanding and to Sean and Brad for their advice!

 

[Just a Six??]

I would need my own forum to relate all the stuff I've been privy to over the past 30 years. And Sean is right...it all boils down to a total lack of personal responsibility.

Take the Lawyers commercials OFF TV that are on "Non Stop" & that would be a start!

 

[Wknight13]

Looking up above at the picture of all the TTA Pace cars revives a great memory, I remember that Indy 500 well, the race was fine but the Pace Cars were better. Seeing all those sweet TTA Pace Cars definitely ingrained a memory I'll never forget. Wish I had one, but the GN is nice too. Thanks for sharing that picture.

 

[phillyturbosix]

BPG has changed the price structure for next years TTA / T type event. Now is the time to get your tickets and join the BPG so it's one less thing you need to save and worry about for next year!! The prices are as follows....

2011 Friday
$20 spectator member
$25 spectator non-member
$40 racing before 6PM all makes/models
$20 racing after 6PM all makes/models

2011 Saturday
$20 spectator member
$25 spectator non-member
$40 member show
$50 non-member show (Buick only)
$40 member race
$50 non-member race (all makes/models T&T only)

2011 Sunday
$20 spectator member
$25 spectator non-member
$40 member race BUICK ONLY
$50 non-member race BUICK ONLY

Discount on spectator pricing
$45 member 3-day pass (save $15)
$60 non-member 3-day pass (save $15)

Discount on spectator/show pricing
$65 member 3-day pass (save $15)

Pre Registration allowed for members only to be posted in the members section

Refunds in the event of a track rain-out only...

Unused tickets can be rolled over to next year with a BPG members signature prior to the end of Event.

Tickets can be upgraded from spectator to race or show

All other ticket issues will be addressed on a case by case basis


JOIN the BPG today and save for next year! It's a great club with a great bunch of guys running it. The event has always been first class all the way. Follow the link in my sig for more info on the BPG!

 

[phillyturbosix]

2011 NHRA Rule Book Amendments for those that are going to race their TTA's next year in Ohio.

National Trail Raceway News: 2011 NHRA Rule Book Amendments