jpwalt1987
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- Nov 9, 2003
what exactly is the cure for a th-400 taking out the thrust bearing on the turbo6? thanks, jeremy
It's not hard to check if the mod was done. Pull just the pump and unbolt the halves to check. Have someone familiar with trans work help you so you get the pump aligned properly when you put it back together and you don't drop any clutch plates. Tranny guys know what I'm talking about.CHANCE said:man that sucks don now you've got me scared, i just put a 400 in that i got from a member here on the board.
DonWG said:Every so often you come across a 400 that does not control converter pressure well. I believe it's caused by casting variations of the pump assembly. I haven't been able to prove it though. A good way of spotting one is to monitor cooler line pressure. Assuming that there is not any abnormal restrictions in the transmission cooling system, cooler line pressure should read 40 psi. No higher! Lower is OK. If yours has a pressure higher than 40 psi, congratulations, you have a potential crank killer.
Pressure in the torque converter causes it to try to spit out the front of the transmission. Some forward pressure on the crank caused by the T/C trying to spit out is normal with automatic transmissions. It's when that pressure is excessive that the crank thrust bearing has a hard time dealing with the high pressure and it wears out. This is a very common occurence with the THM400 in motorhome and HD truck applications where heavy load is constantly on the powertrain during normal use. Heavy throttle positions translate to higher line pressures in the transmission which means higher converter pressures in those units that don't control T/C pressure well. If your using a manual VB, you have high line pressure at all throttle positions. Even at idle. I realize that there are other theories floating around that try to explain this problem. I've heard them all. This is the 'true' reason for this problem and for about 20 years, since I started modifying torque converter feed, I have not had one single problem and have in fact helped some well known people on this board solve repeated crank thrust problems. I feel for those people that ruin 3 or more cranks before they learn the truth behind the problem. This is a mod that should be done on every single 400 built.
ijames said:Don, I was talking about this with someone at Indy and he told me that you can get cavitation in the converter if the cooler line pressure falls below about 60 psi (I think). Have you ever run into this?
ijames said:Don, I was talking about this with someone at Indy and he told me that you can get cavitation in the converter if the cooler line pressure falls below about 60 psi (I think). Have you ever run into this?
Big88 said:Could restricting converter feed pressure change the stall speed of the converter?
Yes. If the charge psi is too low it will increase the stall of the converter. I am not sure at what psi that is a problem. I can tell you the converter will work fine at 30 psi.
If you have one quart in 20 seconds, you're fine. That's all you need.Lonnie, Don,
Could you have lets say 40 psi with a certain size orifice say 3/32" and 40 psi at 1/8" ? But now the difference is the volume the converter sees with the 2 different sized orifices? I'm thinking larger the size with same psi would supply more volume as to not raise the stall speed? Does this sound correct?