While on the topic of fast four bangers... remember the Olds Quad-4? 180 HP stock and it did run low 15's, Had a '90 Chevy Beretta GTZ, Quad-4 5-speed, back in 1990? this kid is so far behind the times.....Although our T/R's are at least three years older than my old GTZ (another one that I should've kept)