So that bar should complement the front 3rd gen bar nicely huh?
Let me put it this way, I'm running one in my 86!:biggrin:
So that bar should complement the front 3rd gen bar nicely huh?
Full throttle sells a atr-like replica bar for like $129 or so if I recall. I got it when Mike had a free shipping sale. I figured Id try it before spending the extra $$ on an HnR bar.
When did the Hellwig one get released? It was showing as a "new SEMA product" for this year... and this was all I could find:
Hellwig Pro-Touring Rear Sway Bars for GM G-Body Now Available - Chevelle Tech
The Hellwig is nice stuff for a good price.
Well if you're cheap and into experimenting then here's an option for ya.:biggrin: You can use one off a last gen S-10 4 door Blazer with towing package. It's bigger than the stock bar and they're cheap in a salvage yard.
And yes, I will be trying this once the car is back together enough to do it.:biggrin: Both sway bars but using the Blazer bar to fine tune the car some. Just thought I'd see if it will work or not for some fun.
What are you looking to get out of the rear bar ?? This ATR/FT works very good like "russgoodman" said. Especially for the $$$. We are prob goin to go with the HR one sometime BUT this has been great so far.. 1.4 60' 9.9@ 138
Let me put it this way, I'm running one in my 86!:biggrin:
can you post a link to the FT bar? Everytime I look for it on FT I keep finding the HR bar.
Charlie do you have any pics of the underside of the car with the blazer sway bar to see where the sway bar links connect and what the bends on the bar look like? thanks
This is actually a very good option and they do work very well! I've used them on 3 cars so far!!
Can't say anything about the GN1 exhaust as I have had no experience with them but I can tell you that I have the 3" ATR dual exhaust on my car and our Rear sway bar fit's just fine.Scott does your rear sway bar have any clearance problems with the 3" gn1 exhaust like the HR bar?
Charlie do you have any pics of the underside of the car with the blazer sway bar to see where the sway bar links connect and what the bends on the bar look like? thanks
Not at the moment. I just did put it in there when I took the rear out so I could put the disc brakes on it and do some other mods. I found that I had frame issues so I have to pull it now and haven't installed it. I found some poly links and they will be mounted in the frame brace to the bar.
The only question I've got is will using 2 bars cause an issue. I'll find out soon enough though.:smile: I really don't think it will cause binding issue though.
The only question I've got is will using 2 bars cause an issue. I'll find out soon enough though.:smile: I really don't think it will cause binding issue though.
Scott does your rear sway bar have any clearance problems with the 3" gn1 exhaust like the HR bar?
Charlie do you have any pics of the underside of the car with the blazer sway bar to see where the sway bar links connect and what the bends on the bar look like? thanks
You are going to have a ton of rear roll stiffness... is there a reason you need that much?
In my opinion, the problem with the stock bar is that it induces a torsional load on the lower arms. The bar loading adds friction to the rotating joints on the ends of the lower arms, which then reduces the rear's ability to articulate and actually reduces ride quality. Essentially, rather than the rear end's motion being sprung directly through the chassis, it is now partially being roll controlled through the LCA mounting joints.
I had my stock F41 bar off, and the ride quality actually improved quite noticeably. There was definitely a lot more rear roll, and I didn't bother testing full car balance before I put the bar back on.
When you segregate the bar from the suspension links, you are taking a step in the right direction.
I would agree and you are 100% correct but....
Just an idea, what do you think about this?
We all know the stock style bar creates bind on the front bushings in the lower control arms, which is the reason for the pro-touring style bars over the stock style now-a-days. And the reason for Johnny Joints, etc as well. I'm curious with the smaller stock style bar and the S-10 style bar if they may actually balance each other becuase the S-10 style bar will eliviate some of the roll from the body and not put so much load on the lower control arms while the stock style bar will help keep the lower rack (lower control arms and rear end) square, which in turn helps keep load balanced.
Understood. I think that together, they will be so stiff that the body won't roll much, so it will be hard to tell if it's actually binding from the joints or not. Just my guess. I don't know what the induced roll rates from the bars are, and won't have the time to try to calculate it for a while.
Charlie i didnt realize you were planning to use them both. I could a conflicting roll center issue with one bar trying to use the rear crossmember to stabalize and the other bar trying to secure the lower control arms.
But, if you think about it, How much different would it be than just using stable lowers and a good mounting point to the rear end. Your essentially just keeping the lowers square with the rear end with the stock bar.
At first glance, it looks off the wall but after second thought, I would be curious to see what happens!! Keep us posted.
You are going to have a ton of rear roll stiffness... is there a reason you need that much?
In my opinion, the problem with the stock bar is that it induces a torsional load on the lower arms. The bar loading adds friction to the rotating joints on the ends of the lower arms, which then reduces the rear's ability to articulate and actually reduces ride quality. Essentially, rather than the rear end's motion being sprung directly through the chassis, it is now partially being roll controlled through the LCA mounting joints.
I had my stock F41 bar off, and the ride quality actually improved quite noticeably. There was definitely a lot more rear roll, and I didn't bother testing full car balance before I put the bar back on.
When you segregate the bar from the suspension links, you are taking a step in the right direction.