Times and combos with billet turbos
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Sent you a PM. Had the light spring in the billet boost controller. It needed the heavy one to go past 22ish lbs of boost. I had it with me, but didn't want to start over, sneaking up on the boost. Figured that It would take at least 4 or 5 passes to get it back to where it was. Didn't have that much time left.
Mike B.
Correction: Timing was 23/21 on best ET, Was 24.5/22.5 for best mph. I Struggled with getting the boost to go up all day. Never could get it to go past 23, so I just threw more timing at it.
Unfortunately, as I launched my 1.39 short time, my glove box flew open. All the small hand tools and crap landed on the keyboard of my lap top, pushing buttons all the way down the track. When I got to the end, I had no data, but a nice time slip.
I just got my Powerlogger set up a few days before the track. I'm still struggling with getting the fuel corrections right. I'm hoping that this combo has at least a low 10.4x hiding in it, with 91 and alky.
Mike B.
Thanks for the reply.
I understand about getting all your runs recorded when you are at the track.
I think the 6265 has been overlooked by a lot of folks and that it will push these cars faster than most people think it can.
Phil Engle
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Best ET of the day was a 10.55 @ 123 with a 1.39
Best mph of the day was 126 at 23 lbs of boost with 24.5 deg of timing.
All runs were with 91 oct gas and Razor's alky. See full combo below.
YouTube - spoolfool at Fontana
This car is 99% street driven and is very crisp in stop and go driving. It's well worth the extra money to go dbl BB.
Happy spooling.
Mike Barnard
Nice SpoolFool!! :biggrin::biggrin:
You and Quick Six are reassuring me that this turbo is all I need to get the job done at the track and still rip on the street. I also notice that it's all about the combo and having everthing dialed in.:wink: I would hate to see what happens with some race gas + more boost + more timing.......:biggrin::biggrin:
I don't know how much Mike's car weighs but it's probably pretty heavy since it's a street car with factory wheels.
Mine is a street car too and weighs 3720 with me in it which should drop under 3700 when I take some off of me. Spooling has been great for me with journal bearing and "S" cover.
Hot air car went 10.40's at the NATS this fall with one of these turbos. This is my 4th turbo since the stocker came off and it is by far my favorite although it has been difficult to control boost creep with factory style wastegate.
Mine is a street car too and weighs 3720 with me in it which should drop under 3700 when I take some off of me.
Spooling has been great for me with journal bearing and "S" cover. Hot air car went 10.40's at the NATS this fall with one of these turbos. This is my 4th turbo since the stocker came off and it is by far my favorite although it has been difficult to control boost creep with factory style wastegate.
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Hey Quik Six,
Now after seeing this performance, I think the 10.40~10.50's was a very realistic assumption. Now, I don't think it's about getting the boost up to 28psi. I NOW believe if you drop your 60ft or leave like Spool Fool did
you will get the times mentioned.:biggrin: I CAN'T WAIT FOR MINE TO COME TO LIFE!!! I'M ONLY A TRANSMISSION AWAY..Hey Quik Six,
Now after seeing this performance, I think the 10.40~10.50's was a very realistic assumption. Now, I don't think it's about getting the boost up to 28psi. I NOW believe if you drop your 60ft or leave like Spool Fool did
I think you're right about the 10.40-50's with boost at 22-24# and some darn good tuning and driving.
I do agree with Bison's thoughts that these turbos will really come to life after 30#'s. That and stripping off 2-300#s of weight and we might be surprised what they will run.
shine1stang
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I will be stepping up to a 6765sp this year. I really hope to improve on my times with the old turbo. Ive done a ton of research and i really take my time before i make a big purchase. I know that my car will react very well with a 6765
I used to have a pt61, and it was a great turbo ive just out grown it. last time at the track with it i ran a 10.73, letting off early for fuel related problems.
This is in my mustang 3.8, forged pistons, rods, ported heads (1.85 in, 1.56 ex valves), 60#ers, alky control, c4 (no brake)and a bradco torque convertor (3000 rpms at 0psi) made 600hp on a superflow dyno and 20psi and 21* timing.
I used to have a pt61, and it was a great turbo ive just out grown it. last time at the track with it i ran a 10.73, letting off early for fuel related problems.
This is in my mustang 3.8, forged pistons, rods, ported heads (1.85 in, 1.56 ex valves), 60#ers, alky control, c4 (no brake)and a bradco torque convertor (3000 rpms at 0psi) made 600hp on a superflow dyno and 20psi and 21* timing.
I don't know how much Mike's car weighs but it's probably pretty heavy since it's a street car with factory wheels.
Mine is a street car too and weighs 3720 with me in it which should drop under 3700 when I take some off of me.
Hot air car went 10.40's at the NATS this fall with one of these turbos. This is my 4th turbo since the stocker came off and it is by far my favorite although it has been difficult to control boost creep with factory style wastegate.
If you take a close look or ask him you will find out they are not factory wheels, he has pictures posted in here somewhere of his alluminum billet wheels that were made to look like factory wheels. if my memory serves me right he told me his wheels now weight 25pnds less for each one over the stock ones, thats 100 pounds savings right there not to mention less rotational mass to deal with..
Those are not thoughts. Ive found they make boost a lot easier than older turbos with old design turbines. I easily made 30psi with a 6262 and had very little wastegate tension. Coming to life is not really what i meant. What i meant was where you struggle to make more boost with older turbos these are easily cranked up without adding external sources of pressure. No maps are published but id expect them to continue making more and more power the more they are cranked. Most guys on here arent even close to running anywhere near the mass flow through their engines they can. These guys just need to get the nut to crank it up. C16 with 21-22* verified timing is no problem with boost in the 32-33psi range. The difference on a strong combo with 21-22psi vs 32-33psi with one of these 65 trim turbos will be drastic. Id expect at least 150whp and maybe close to 175whp on an 8.5:1 engine if the tune was good. Thats about a second e.t. reduction potential. There is nothing there at all if your making 500whp with a 6265 vs a 6262 on these small engines. I mean absolutely nothing as far as power. You will need more converter for the 65 wheel though.
Brian: Not best choice of words on my part so apologies for misstatement.
I reread the rest of your message with great interest and I have the nuts to push up the power just won't do it on the first pass.
Phil Engle
When in doubt over octane.
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Brian: Not best choice of words on my part so apologies for misstatement.
I reread the rest of your message with great interest and I have the nuts to push up the power just won't do it on the first pass.
Phil Engle
Brian: I thought you'd like to see a picture of my new boost controller.
Phil Engle
Brian: I thought you'd like to see a picture of my new boost controller.
Phil Engle
Gotta get me one of those!!
Brian: I thought you'd like to see a picture of my new boost controller.
Phil Engle
Nice work. You should make a ***** on the side opposite the bigger balls. Unfortunately most on here never get close to the balls when trying to make power.
Dusty Bradford
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LOL. I'd like for those types to see a datalog from a 706ci engine making 52psi with a head that flows over 500cfm:biggrin:
I thought about doing that but I figured the guys I know would have to "pet the kitty" and ruin the finish.
What kind of rods do you recommend for welding the aluminum heads to the cast iron block? :biggrin:
