Isn't it great in CA; Turbobuicks will have to be dertified at a Star Smog Station:

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Gary Wells

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Beginning 01 Jan, 2013, all turbo Buicks (HEP (High Emitting Profile)) in CA will have to be certified at a CA Star Certified Station. Somehow I know that this will not be good for us. After 01 Jan 2013, we can no longer certify at a Test Only station. This does suck. Either Certify tomorrow, Saturday, or Monday or pay the consequences, which I am sure are not going to be helpful. FWIW, IMHO, & HTH
 
STAR is the replacement for Test Only and Gold Shield. Only STAR certified test only and Test & Repair will be able to test HEP or 2% random.
 
Many thanks for the input, Joe. Owning a turbo Buick is getting harder every year.
 
Looks like the same test to me. Still a tailpipe test for a pre 2000 car. You link verifies that it only applies to 2000 and newer cars having a change of testing procedures. Now they place the word STAR in front of test only stations, tell me how that changes any parameters on a pre 2000 test
 
williamsGN said:
Looks like the same test to me. Still a tailpipe test for a pre 2000 car. You link verifies that it only applies to 2000 and newer cars having a change of testing procedures. Now they place the word STAR in front of test only stations, tell me how that changes any parameters on a pre 2000 test
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It doesn't for 1999 and earlier, which our cars fall under.
 
Not to disagree with Joe, but I thought that I read that some of the "STAR" stations will be "Test and Repair" and I thought that under the old system, HEP cars were "Test only" and could not go to a Test & Repair" other than when selling / transferring a HEP car?
Joe?
Your knowledge please?
 
One of the many reasons I love Montana, I've had my PERM tag for 8 years, no emission laws here!!!
 
Socialist Republic of Ca keeps voting in the same crowd, expect no improvement, I feel for you guys, great weather and climate for cars, crappy liberal policys, but then again I remember the smog in the 70's !
Better pawn off those rust free cars on us Southern rednecks.
 
Gary Wells said:
Not to disagree with Joe, but I thought that I read that some of the "STAR" stations will be "Test and Repair" and I thought that under the old system, HEP cars were "Test only" and could not go to a Test & Repair" other than when selling / transferring a HEP car?
Joe?
Your knowledge please?
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Right now if you receive a renewal notice requiring smog check and your car is HEP, you may go to a Test Only Station or a Test and Repair that is designated Gold Shield. After the first of the year STAR initiates, and you HEP or 2% random will need to be certified at a STAR Test Only station or a Test & Repair Station that is designated STAR. Here is a link to BAR's website explaining STAR for consumers: http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/03_Standards&Training/Star/StarProgramConsumer.html
 
lrayzer said:
Socialist Republic of Ca keeps voting in the same crowd, expect no improvement, I feel for you guys, great weather and climate for cars, crappy liberal policys, but then again I remember the smog in the 70's !
Better pawn off those rust free cars on us Southern rednecks.
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Not California, Federal Clean Air Act with most of California's densely populated areas being designated as non-attainment by the federal government.
 
Joe, can the 3" THDP pass visual? What 3" cat would be legal for CA?
 
Friend of mine with a mid 80's Ford truck had to go to a repair facility and after $450 of parts/labor, it still would not pass. He showed proof of this cost to the DMV and they gave him his tags because he proved he spent a certain amount of money trying to fix it. Anyone ever hear of this?
 
That may not work well for modded turbo Buicks. It sounds like he received a smog or modded exhaust violation ticket and had to go to a smog referee. This is not the way that I would like to be forced out of Dodge City.
I am sure that Joe can fill us in on more about that plan.
 
I'd originally been led to believe that there were going to be a very limited # of STAR smog check stations in CA but when I did a search on the BAR website there appear to be 94 in San Diego county alone. If the test is the same and all Turbo Regals / GN's were test only cars before to start with then it's just a name change isn't it?

Neal
 
I would expect them to be less "user friendly" than they were before the status upgrade.
 
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