failed badly...

[shmed]

well got the results and i failed badly now what do i do??

results..
HC limit 92 reading 99
co limit .52 reading .89
no ppm limit 1012 reading 540
rpm 1639
dillution 13.5
this was at speed

idle test
HC limit 300 reading 551
CO limit 1.50 reading .83
rpm 858
dilution 12.2

this was with egr hooked up and a working cat and a e chip

help

 

[gofstbuick]

Stock EGR or aftermarket? Idle looks really lean and dyno test looks a little rich.

 

[shmed]

this was with a stock gm egr,

checked the pcv valve its working ok

new plugs, magnecore wires, new coil pack, oil & filter

55lbs injs champ irons had the lead removed to make the egr funtional, gasket matched intake and throttle body, hemco upper.

the car really ran badly with this e chip.

should i just put the reds chip back in and try again??

oh yes i also forgot to tighten the oil return line at the block oil was spitting out durning test. if that would have an effect???

 

[gofstbuick]

I don't like changing chips just to pass an emissions test. It couldn't hurt to try the chip you normally use.
Was oil spitting out near the O2 sensor, cuz it could have killed it.

 

[shmed]

im not real sure if it hit the o2 or not. but it did spit all over the place....DOH!!!

im gonna go plug the direct scan in and see what going on,
funny every time i try one of these e chips my car runs like a bag of !@#$

thanks
Dave

 

[Eric Stage I]

Something must be way off somewhere for it to run that bad, sounds way too lean. Do you have screens in the MAF? It will run like crud without screens.

Regards,
Eric

 

[shmed]

thanks eric,

ok heres what i tried so far,
installed reds 93 chip idled it till fully warmed up and wrote down results , then the same with my e chip.
and i installed 1 screen in the mass air meter (thats all i could find.)
vaccuum 15 "
fuel press is at 40 line off
reds chip
scanmaster read direct scan read
af 07 af 07
lb 43-46 lb 45
int 118 int 128
blm 122 blm 129
cle 165 cle 171
ats 82 ats 81
rpm 850 rpm 7-900
tps 44 tps 46
iac 25 iac 29
af 14.8
x counts 0 250
clsd loop

now with my e chip

af 08 06-07
lb 48 37-42
int 123-134 126-144
blm 138-160 146-160
cle 192 190
ats 103 102
rpm 850
tps 44 46
iac 29 29
spark 25-26
inj 1.9-2.0
when does the egr work at cruise?
id really like to get this car passed asap, summer is here any tips ideas

 

[Eric Stage I]

With the emission chip, I would bump up the fuel pressure to 43psi to see if you can get any of the blm cells that are 160 to come down a little. It may be lean because the ECM ran out of adjustment (160 is the limit in that chip).
The EGR should be on most of the time during cruise, with the duty cycle varying with load/rpm, in the 20%-70% range.

On the Reds chip, as long as it has all the emissions related stuff operating in the chip, then I would think it should work also.

Eric

 

[shmed]

ok turned the fuel press up to 44 line off
at idle the blm hit 137
and at 36 mph blm 101
egr 20.7

with the red chip at idle blm 95
@35 mph blm 90
egr was at 27

so which chip should i use?
do i just keep playng with fuel pressure till i get the closest to 128 blm s?

im so lost lol

 

[Eric Stage I]

If you use the emissions chip, maybe bump the fp down 1 psi. If you use Red's chip, I would turn the fuel pressure down until the blm's come up some, at least off 90.

There's probably no difference in the way EGR is set up between the two. They are set up like the stock chip.

There's no way to really know which one will do better unfortunately. Just do all the normal stuff, change oil, plugs, O2 sensor, and see what happens.

Regards,
Eric