As far as performance, reliability, or features?Borg Warner all the way .. nothing is close
As far as performance, reliability, or features?
Maybe when I upgrade in a few more years I will go with BW. Unfortunately when my rebuild was done, BW turbo's weren't being marketed for Turbo Buicks. As a matter of fact, when I worked for BW and emailed a vendor about a BW turbo for my car and they said they didn't carry anything that was made to directly bolt on to my car. Hopefully my next turbo will get me in the high 9's.All the above ... the only area they won't beat the others is pricing ... you get what you pay for
Maybe when I upgrade in a few more years I will go with BW. Unfortunately when my rebuild was done, BW turbo's weren't being marketed for Turbo Buicks. As a matter of fact, when I worked for BW and emailed a vendor about a BW turbo for my car and they said they didn't carry anything that was made to directly bolt on to my car. Hopefully my next turbo will get me in the high 9's.
All the above ... the only area they won't beat the others is pricing ... you get what you pay for
It was always easy to switch to 4 bolt. Buy a set of ATR or TA 4 bolt headers, (depending on the year and availability), buy a common 4 bolt turbo. The reason race cars had the 4 bolts is because the 3 bolt isnt an issue for 99% of buyers.
I am waiting on that comparison myself. I keep hearing about these "better" turbos. Yet no one has proven otherwise. Compare power to similar wheel size, and spool up time.The availability was really my point.
But I don't want to stray from the topic at hand... so I suppose I will add that I would like to see a comparison between Borg Warner's EFR series and PTE's new Gen 2 CEA wheels...unless they are coming out with Gen 3 wheels soon or something.
How far in the past?i have seen recent 71 billet bb,76,88 mm and 67mm.Spool that is the pass, Precision turbos hold up really well at least the one's i have bought. The CEA are well built units and spool quick with great power levels.
That very reason is why Reed at WORK turbo is such an asset to the Buick community. He is able to machine BW housing for BW wheels and has opened up an entire realm of turbos that we never previously had access to.
Add to that Gee M Racing's Race headers that make swapping to a 4-bolt setup easy and painless, you now have the ability to run much larger turbos than we previously had access to, and not have concerns of huge backpressure issues.
My personal car and Kendall's car both run WORK Twin-Scroll Borg Warner turbine housings with Gee M Racing Race headers for Twin Scroll turbos. 13 years ago when I got into Buicks I never thought it would be this easy to swap to a 4 bolt. I remember that only those with the most money and all-out race cars ran 4-bolt setups. Now it is something everyone has access to.
Btw, we do sell Gee M Racing headers and WORK turbos.
You're gonna tell me you wouldn't want this beauty sitting in your engine bay??!
I run the turbonetics billet stuff they make a ton of power spool up fast and hold up to a real beating.the guys up here run different types of turbo so I have seen a lot of different combos built and pushed for power and not just setup for some class that's limits the combo.it seems any newer style turbo on the right combo can be in the winners circle depending on what circle it is.i just like turbos that are durable and pte falls short of that from what I have seen maybe that will change with their new parent company.all of them make power