no start TTA urgh....help?

sdteb

trying to get it like you
ok, lets start with the obvious,
only recent changes,
1. ALKY control kit
2. 60lb injectors
TT chip

alky kit works at least testing it...with the test button

literally nothing else was done..

i have tried another ecm that works in my Limited and vice versa the tta ecm works in the buick
i have spark
i have fuel pressure
i have verified power to cam and crank sensor
i have pined the p and m on the module, it has 12 volts each
i have 12 volts to the ecm from the battery at the harness next to the battery
i have to go get a noid light / test light to test injector pulse. i tried to pin power to the injector harness, cant really determine this yet.
all fuses are good. as is the fuel pump relay

what the hell gives? what do i try next?

could it be the fuel pump? even though i have fuel pressure...?
 

Jerryl

Tall Unvaccinated Chinese Guy
Was the orange wire plugged back in after the chip and ECM ECM change? KOEO, does the SES light flash 2X on power up?

No start tree link in previous post. How far did you get on the tree?
 

SCOOBY DOO

I'M NOT A MONSTER, I'M JUST AHEAD OF THE CURVE!!!
been down it with my service manual.. other than dropping the tank and changing fuel pump and all these parts...:(
If all's well with that, then I'll assume you must have done something installing the alky kit.
 

sdteb

trying to get it like you
Was the orange wire plugged back in after the chip and ECM ECM change? i have 13 volts on the orange wire leading to the ecm, like the buicks i own, the tta looks different than my buicks at the batter KOEO, does the SES light flash 2X on power up? yes

No start tree link in previous post. How far did you get on the tree?
 

sdteb

trying to get it like you
I'm assuming he read Erics instructions for the correct FP at the rail...maybe not.
yes sir, actually talked to Eric last night. :). these injectors were new, just were in my toolbox for a few years as I was going to use them in my dads gn to step up from 50's, fp was fine and set prior to this 2 weeks ago and the car ran fine. ugh
 

SCOOBY DOO

I'M NOT A MONSTER, I'M JUST AHEAD OF THE CURVE!!!
That's 1 way to lock them up. Let them sit in open air, for years. New, or not.
Could be locked up, tighter than dicks hatband ;)
I've got $50 that says that's what's wrong. Put the old injs in, and it'll start.
Chuck, if you're correct...are they junk...or can they be cleaned.
 

sdteb

trying to get it like you
Well fuck ass, the 60’s I’ve never used that were in my tool box were the issue. Put the 50’s back in and bingo. The bastard runs. Albeit now with a miss. Guess I’ll change plugs and get new 60’s

Gonna take these to local shop to see if they can ‘unstick’ them.

Eric Marshall first said plugs that sit like that can go bad. As well as another board member.

Damn this was painful.


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sdteb

trying to get it like you
That's 1 way to lock them up. Let them sit in open air, for years. New, or not.
Could be locked up, tighter than dicks hatband ;)
I've got $50 that says that's what's wrong. Put the old injs in, and it'll start.
I owe ya 50 bones!
 

Chuck Leeper

Toxic old bastard
Staff member
Chuck, if you're correct...are they junk...or can they be cleaned.
I've had many sets that had some locked, or sticking open.
I can recall only 1 set, that had all 6 that were shut. These were new, Ford blu stripes.
It took a bit, but I got them working well.
The injs are made, and tested w/ a flow fluid, that has a lube in it. The lube gets sticky, and then....
Used injs are a different situation. The residue in the nasty gas we have, can be harder to clean out.
The injs I clean, have a lube pumped thru them. That expels the flow fluid. I cap them, after the lube.
Bottom line. They may be resurrected. My cleaning system can be heated. That helps dissolve the crud.
 

SCOOBY DOO

I'M NOT A MONSTER, I'M JUST AHEAD OF THE CURVE!!!
I've had many sets that had some locked, or sticking open.
I can recall only 1 set, that had all 6 that were shut. These were new, Ford blu stripes.
It took a bit, but I got them working well.
The injs are made, and tested w/ a flow fluid, that has a lube in it. The lube gets sticky, and then....
Used injs are a different situation. The residue in the nasty gas we have, can be harder to clean out.
The injs I clean, have a lube pumped thru them. That expels the flow fluid. I cap them, after the lube.
Bottom line. They may be resurrected. My cleaning system can be heated. That helps dissolve the crud.
Great info...thanks. :)
 
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