Warp6
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Military won't sell used brass any more - hang on shooters!
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Man that was two weeks ago! I thought the fury over that had gotten the policy returned to normal. Tho I've yet to see a direct link to that effect.
I see new stuff seems to be starting to level off and even be more available again. 223 is everywhere it seems. But the $60 for 100rds of unprimed new brass is sitting very still on them shelves! Some crazy crackhead marketing guy musta dreamt that price up! 7.62 x 39 & 51 can be found plentiful at growing places, and 54 has dropped back to it's price of over a month ago @ Sportsman's Guide already. Now if there was more small pistol ammo...
I see new stuff seems to be starting to level off and even be more available again. 223 is everywhere it seems. But the $60 for 100rds of unprimed new brass is sitting very still on them shelves! Some crazy crackhead marketing guy musta dreamt that price up! 7.62 x 39 & 51 can be found plentiful at growing places, and 54 has dropped back to it's price of over a month ago @ Sportsman's Guide already. Now if there was more small pistol ammo...
The only ammo I see a problem getting is .380 pistol ammo! The rest of it is out there, may be a little higher but it is there...
Do enough searching and you can find it... The biggest price jump I have seen is in the Federal .223 stuff. Some places have 1000 bulks listed at over $850
I talked to a gun shop owner and he said he wishes he would have bought an 18wheeler load full of it 6mnths ago
Warp6
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Here is some proof that brass was restricted by DOD. Looks like NRA and some others really jumped on it and DOD rescinded the orders.
STATEMENT FROM NRA CHIEF LOBBYIST CHRIS W. COX
Military Surplus Cartridge Case Issue Resolved
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Yesterday morning, the Department of Defense informed NRA-ILA that fired military small arms cartridge cases are once again eligible for sale, following a temporary suspension in such sales instituted last week. NRA-ILA began discussions with DoD shortly after the suspension took effect, and we were assured from the beginning that efforts were underway to resolve the issue favorably.
Yesterday afternoon, DoD additionally confirmed the lifting of the suspension to pro-Second Amendment United States Senators Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who sent the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) a joint letter vigorously opposing the suspension, on the grounds that it had "an impact on small businesses who sell reloaded ammunition utilizing these fired casings, and upon individual gun owners who purchase spent military brass at considerable cost savings for their personal use."
Everyone who would have been impacted by the suspension, had it become permanent, owes thanks to Senator Baucus for his leadereship on this issue, as well as to Sen. Tester and U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), who also weighed in strongly on behalf of gun owners and the suppliers from whom they obtain ammunition reloaded with surplus military brass.
In announcing that the suspension has been lifted, DoD also made clear that no cartridge cases that, in the absence of the suspension, would have been sold for reloading purposes were destroyed while the suspension was in effect. Such cases were instead protected by DoD during the suspension, and are again eligible for sale. With ammunition currently in short supply, that was welcome news, to be sure.
DLA also put to rest various theories and rumors that were circulated on the internet, concerning the reason for the suspension. As DLA explained to Senators Baucus and Tester, and to NRA-ILA, DoD officials responsible for the demilitarization of military property temporarily halted the release of the cartridge cases last week, pending review of a policy change issued last year by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which, in the interest of national security, halted the sale of items within a broad category of government property including, but not limited to, surplus small arms cartridge cases.
To make cartridge cases eligible for sale once again, DoD demilitarization officials verified that the cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for use within the United States, and then executed the recategorization. Whereas during the brief suspension, fired cartridge cases would have been releaseable only if the purchaser crushed or smelted them, now the cases may be sold as before, intact and reloadable.
DoD also assured NRA-ILA that companies previously authorized to purchase cartridge cases under Trade Security Controls need no further vetting at this time, and are eligible to resume purchasing cases under the policy adopted yesterday.
In sum, a problem that could have had serious repercussions for the remanufactured ammunition industry and the countless gun owners who support it, appears to have been resolved quickly.
STATEMENT FROM NRA CHIEF LOBBYIST CHRIS W. COX
Military Surplus Cartridge Case Issue Resolved
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Yesterday morning, the Department of Defense informed NRA-ILA that fired military small arms cartridge cases are once again eligible for sale, following a temporary suspension in such sales instituted last week. NRA-ILA began discussions with DoD shortly after the suspension took effect, and we were assured from the beginning that efforts were underway to resolve the issue favorably.
Yesterday afternoon, DoD additionally confirmed the lifting of the suspension to pro-Second Amendment United States Senators Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who sent the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) a joint letter vigorously opposing the suspension, on the grounds that it had "an impact on small businesses who sell reloaded ammunition utilizing these fired casings, and upon individual gun owners who purchase spent military brass at considerable cost savings for their personal use."
Everyone who would have been impacted by the suspension, had it become permanent, owes thanks to Senator Baucus for his leadereship on this issue, as well as to Sen. Tester and U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), who also weighed in strongly on behalf of gun owners and the suppliers from whom they obtain ammunition reloaded with surplus military brass.
In announcing that the suspension has been lifted, DoD also made clear that no cartridge cases that, in the absence of the suspension, would have been sold for reloading purposes were destroyed while the suspension was in effect. Such cases were instead protected by DoD during the suspension, and are again eligible for sale. With ammunition currently in short supply, that was welcome news, to be sure.
DLA also put to rest various theories and rumors that were circulated on the internet, concerning the reason for the suspension. As DLA explained to Senators Baucus and Tester, and to NRA-ILA, DoD officials responsible for the demilitarization of military property temporarily halted the release of the cartridge cases last week, pending review of a policy change issued last year by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which, in the interest of national security, halted the sale of items within a broad category of government property including, but not limited to, surplus small arms cartridge cases.
To make cartridge cases eligible for sale once again, DoD demilitarization officials verified that the cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for use within the United States, and then executed the recategorization. Whereas during the brief suspension, fired cartridge cases would have been releaseable only if the purchaser crushed or smelted them, now the cases may be sold as before, intact and reloadable.
DoD also assured NRA-ILA that companies previously authorized to purchase cartridge cases under Trade Security Controls need no further vetting at this time, and are eligible to resume purchasing cases under the policy adopted yesterday.
In sum, a problem that could have had serious repercussions for the remanufactured ammunition industry and the countless gun owners who support it, appears to have been resolved quickly.
Do enough searching and you can find it... The biggest price jump I have seen is in the Federal .223 stuff. Some places have 1000 bulks listed at over $850
Why is that Federal stuff so special?
Sportmans guide has it for $879. per 1000.
Why is that Federal stuff so special?
Sportmans guide has it for $879. per 1000.
Federal XM and K (bulk) stuff is Military spec ammo. That is why the price is so high... Same stuff they and the police use, training for sure! Not sure if they use that in the battlefield but I know that is what they train with...
I've wiped out the last of 39 brass case ammo on the local shops shelves at about the same as those 223 prices. It's the stinkin BRASS!!!! Try gettin paid @ the scrap yard like these guys are for it tho! All I've seen of new stcok Rem is the empty cases baggies. Guess that's part of what makes the Fed special, you can buy it already loaded! I ran across 60rds of old stock oddball Rem with sm primers. weird...
And the sm pistol availability is why we're stocked and molding. Finally got the 9mm molds in from LEE Precision that'd been backordered since Jan, Last Week! Just more variety... and it can be swaged into a handful of sizes.
All I've seen of new stcok Rem is the empty cases baggies. Guess that's part of what makes the Fed special, you can buy it already loaded! I ran across 60rds of old stock oddball Rem with sm primers. weird...And the sm pistol availability is why we're stocked and molding. Finally got the 9mm molds in from LEE Precision that'd been backordered since Jan, Last Week!
Just more variety... and it can be swaged into a handful of sizes.I will take a 1000 .223 good brass quick for a decent price:biggrin:
