Looking for a bump box and possibly an e-transbrake Any experts out here?

87GNALKY

Active Member
Any info on bump boxes and what is involved in installing an electronic trans-brake? You can save the gay jokes for the GS Nationals on the 23rd -26th.... :)
 

dank GN

BlackArts Automotive (661)993-8277
Any info on bump boxes and what is involved in installing an electronic trans-brake? You can save the gay jokes for the GS Nationals on the 23rd -26th.... :)
For the 200 it’s not a super complicated install . Just follow the direction and you have to have some Basic tools . Now the bump box is also a easy install just wiring up a control box to the trans brake . It will pulse the brake off and on super fast . I’m running one that is built into my boots leash boost control that I really like and have had no issue with it .
 

87GNALKY

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For the 200 it’s not a super complicated install . Just follow the direction and you have to have some Basic tools . Now the bump box is also a easy install just wiring up a control box to the trans brake . It will pulse the brake off and on super fast . I’m running one that is built into my boots leash boost control that I really like and have had no issue with it .
Can you make me one if I pay you for it? A bump box along with trans brake? I will bring the car to you.. If you are not busy at the GS Nationals due to any number of issues that may arise, I would have the tools there and the $ to pay you as well.
I am planning to bring my Comp Cam980-12 Valve springs and fel-pro gaskets as well if anyone knows how to install valve springs. I already have 24 brand new keepers as well because some folks tend to loose them. I also have this handy tool for your use. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...2pkVrihu4ZyRn-Ar5hsX5bOOsuaLdvHxoCV8YQAvD_BwE

I saw a girl change all the valve springs in a V8 in like 20 min. with this tool. I will have it with me at the GS Nationals. Anyone that gets some bad luck in the races and wants to earn some cash, I need this stuff done. Thanks
 

turbobuick

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lol I would slow your roll if you have a stock 109 with valve springs that need replaced. I am also assuming you have a stock drivetrain? First of all do you realize how much shit you will break in a stock drivetrain with a trans brake and how dangerous it can be it?

My advice if your car is mostly stock is to look at the gnttype.org recipe
https://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/Staged1.html follow it with attention to detail and basics.

Yes if you follow that recipe you can get in the 10's and the original was written in the early 90's. While some tech has changed the process has not and the recipe works. Also learn how to work on your car, if you want it to preform well and don't have an unlimited budget you will need to know how to do this stuff, like changing VS. Youtube is fantastic and didn't exist when many of us starting messing with these cars in the 80's, there is also ton of info on this board and many willing to help, and for free!

In case you are wondering, IMO the minimum you should have for a TB is a driveshaft loop along with a complete CM or 3.5" alum DS with 1350 u-joints and billet yokes for the trans and rearend, C-clip elims, at LEAST 30 (33's would be safer) spline axles and a spool would be a really good idea. In otherwords it is an expensive upgrade and will require you to upgrade your entire chassis and drive train for it to work right.
 

dank GN

BlackArts Automotive (661)993-8277
Can you make me one if I pay you for it? A bump box along with trans brake? I will bring the car to you.. If you are not busy at the GS Nationals due to any number of issues that may arise, I would have the tools there and the $ to pay you as well.
I am planning to bring my Comp Cam980-12 Valve springs and fel-pro gaskets as well if anyone knows how to install valve springs. I already have 24 brand new keepers as well because some folks tend to loose them. I also have this handy tool for your use. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...2pkVrihu4ZyRn-Ar5hsX5bOOsuaLdvHxoCV8YQAvD_BwE

I saw a girl change all the valve springs in a V8 in like 20 min. with this tool. I will have it with me at the GS Nationals. Anyone that gets some bad luck in the races and wants to earn some cash, I need this stuff done. Thanks
A boost leash with bump box is right at 760 it went up a lot from when I purchased mine https://www.leashelectronics.com/Boost-Leash-Pulse-Leash-combo-unit-BLPL.htm
 

dank GN

BlackArts Automotive (661)993-8277
Where are u located? I’m in Socal and truthfully I believe you should focus on other maintenance before u do a trans brake as there are plenty of ppl running fast as F**K on the foot brake
 

87GNALKY

Active Member
lol I would slow your roll if you have a stock 109 with valve springs that need replaced. I am also assuming you have a stock drivetrain? First of all do you realize how much shit you will break in a stock drivetrain with a trans brake and how dangerous it can be it?

My advice if your car is mostly stock is to look at the gnttype.org recipe
https://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/Staged1.html follow it with attention to detail and basics.
Where are u located? I’m in Socal and truthfully I believe you should focus on other maintenance before u do a trans brake as there are plenty of ppl running fast as F**K on the foot brake
Ohh" That's cool. I'' see if I can get my 2step footbrake combo to be consitant

Yes if you follow that recipe you can get in the 10's and the original was written in the early 90's. While some tech has changed the process has not and the recipe works. Also learn how to work on your car, if you want it to preform well and don't have an unlimited budget you will need to know how to do this stuff, like changing VS. Youtube is fantastic and didn't exist when many of us starting messing with these cars in the 80's, there is also ton of info on this board and many willing to help, and for free!

In case you are wondering, IMO the minimum you should have for a TB is a driveshaft loop along with a complete CM or 3.5" alum DS with 1350 u-joints and billet yokes for the trans and reared, C-clip elims, at LEAST 30 (33's would be safer) spline axles and a spool would be a really good idea. In other-words it is an expensive upgrade and will require you to upgrade your entire chassis and drive train for it to work right.
Actually, you make a wonderful point to everyone interested in preserving what most of us consider one of the finest specimens of early intuitive Buick innovation. saying "****YOU to those in the GM world that said "you beat the Corvette and watch what happens" ???
We watched and we "Fell in Love With the TR. Which Year DID YOU LOVE?
My point is, I am sitting in front of my 87 WE2 With an unbroken HG. Without a single inch of breakage..
Here is Why!! You should never Break Your Seal! All 209 engines; were all torqued -at -the -exact -same -time. All bolts were tightened at the exact same time and PSI. That is why they say,, Don't break the seal for preservation purposes..; Or' "IT'LL HANDLE 30+ # if you never break the seal...
I certainly appreciate as many,, as,, possible, keeping as,,, many as possible,,,;:,,, as sane as possible.....,,,,,,,,,
I guess my point would be. I ask a lot of questions. When I ask questions, I tend to be looking wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwWWWWWWay in the future..
Of course I will make some of the same mistakes others have.. But I believe winter is for learning what https://bangshift.com/general-news/...-how-to-screw-with-pro-stock-using-a-4-4l-v6/
Yeah, there are some alky kits, there are updated and tweaked trans.. I am
 

87GNALKY

Active Member
I will break some stuff and Yes, i have 1 109 block. I can appreciate you thinking you have it all figured out.. What you may not understand is, I just don't give a ***ck. I will continue to pay folks that want to earn a living working on these cars f their time. It may come as a suprize that. I do everything that is under a 3 hour job... I have many projects beyond the 87,, Breaking a HG would be a great excuse to prep for 2021 GS Nationals.. Always look on the bright side of life!
 

No disintegrations

Well-Known Member
Can you make me one if I pay you for it? A bump box along with trans brake? I will bring the car to you.. If you are not busy at the GS Nationals due to any number of issues that may arise, I would have the tools there and the $ to pay you as well.
I am planning to bring my Comp Cam980-12 Valve springs and fel-pro gaskets as well if anyone knows how to install valve springs. I already have 24 brand new keepers as well because some folks tend to loose them. I also have this handy tool for your use. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...2pkVrihu4ZyRn-Ar5hsX5bOOsuaLdvHxoCV8YQAvD_BwE

I saw a girl change all the valve springs in a V8 in like 20 min. with this tool. I will have it with me at the GS Nationals. Anyone that gets some bad luck in the races and wants to earn some cash, I need this stuff done. Thanks
That tool is no good for the Buick head layout. People use the shaft mounted home made one or the screw clamp style.
 

87GNALKY

Active Member
how big of a Turbo are you running ?what convertor ?
Stock turbo and a 2800 I think.
lol I would slow your roll if you have a stock 109 with valve springs that need replaced. I am also assuming you have a stock drivetrain? First of all do you realize how much shit you will break in a stock drivetrain with a trans brake and how dangerous it can be it?

My advice if your car is mostly stock is to look at the gnttype.org recipe
https://www.gnttype.org/techarea/recipes/Staged1.html follow it with attention to detail and basics.

Yes if you follow that recipe you can get in the 10's and the original was written in the early 90's. While some tech has changed the process has not and the recipe works. Also learn how to work on your car, if you want it to preform well and don't have an unlimited budget you will need to know how to do this stuff, like changing VS. Youtube is fantastic and didn't exist when many of us starting messing with these cars in the 80's, there is also ton of info on this board and many willing to help, and for free!

In case you are wondering, IMO the minimum you should have for a TB is a driveshaft loop along with a complete CM or 3.5" alum DS with 1350 u-joints and billet yokes for the trans and rearend, C-clip elims, at LEAST 30 (33's would be safer) spline axles and a spool would be a really good idea. In otherwords it is an expensive upgrade and will require you to upgrade your entire chassis and drive train for it to work right.
Im not really trying to compete persay. Just running down the track for fun. I would expect more like 15s instead of 10s.
 

BobbyBuick

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this guy is sponsoring Turbo Pro Bracket
My Smooth Stage is on the way !
Ryan is also is taking 50 off the price on his web site through october to november 3rd 249 .PROMO BUICK .Ryan is a great guy and wants to help the Buick Folks with staging there cars

Promo Code BUICK on check out
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87GNALKY

Active Member
this guy is sponsoring Turbo Pro Bracket
My Smooth Stage is on the way !
Ryan is also is taking 50 off the price on his web site through october to november 3rd 249 .PROMO BUICK .Ryan is a great guy and wants to help the Buick Folks with staging there cars

Promo Code BUICK on check out View attachment 348354
Damn! that looks a lot smother than anything I have seen out there.. I cant wait to start amassing some of this stuff for when I get the car gone through from ass end to front end. I wish I had already got the car out to Steve but time is at such a premium right now. I way actually take a trip up to the est coast in a couple of months or so and drop it off with him. I do like me some of that smooth Stage box!! Thanks BB! for the info and I will be bookmarking his website for the near future..
 

turbobuick

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Staff member
I looked at this last year and I believe he is also selling the ready to install for $99. I picked one up but haven't installed it on anything yet. Pretty straight fwd.
 

BobbyBuick

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yea you can get a smart launch for 100 bucks basicly a timer .im going with something a little better for 150 more and someone that is supporting racers . on smooth stage facebook page there is a video showing the process of amking these its not just a digital timer
 

87GNALKY

Active Member
yea you can get a smart launch for 100 bucks basicly a timer .im going with something a little better for 150 more and someone that is supporting racers . on smooth stage facebook page there is a video showing the process of amking these its not just a digital timer
Do I have to have a trans-brake for these types of things? The trans-brake will come after the new staged trans and diff down the road.. I really just want to have help getting a good stage, some would say deep staged I think. Im just a bit worried my foot will slip off the brake or something and I will break the second beam. I will need all the help I can get since it will be my first time ever trying to stage and launch. I know in a couple of years all these questions will sound stupid to me once I learn how this all works, but for now, I just want to try and do well and not just sitting on the line for 5 minutes while Mr. Nitros says I am intentionally burning him down or just plain ole red lighting because I am shi**ing myself due to the excitement. Bringing extra underwear BTW. I guess I will have a little time to figure some of this out during test and tune.... Needless to say, I will for sure need some folks that don't mind coaching me a bit.. Unless you Sceard of loosing when I smoke you with the Black Blur! Unless that name is taken already,, Then When I smoke you with Ole Black Betty! I am almost certain that name was taken in the late 80s.. Flam da Lam... Well the wife keeps asking what I am going to name the car... Purchased it a year ago so I guess BG will be a good place to come up with a name.. You no name you ca life sava, you name you ca shithead.. For the Steve Martin fans....
 

turbobuick

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Staff member
I will need all the help I can get since it will be my first time ever trying to stage and launch. I know in a couple of years all these questions will sound stupid to me once I learn how this all works,
Please re-read my first post. Seriously, make sure your car is mechanically sound and learn how to race it stock or semi-stock first before trying to light the world on fire. Believe me it will be more enjoyable experience that way.
 

Mr.Spool

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Any info on bump boxes and what is involved in installing an electronic trans-brake? You can save the gay jokes for the GS Nationals on the 23rd -26th.... :)
if your sig is right you have alot of things to upgrade before before a transbrake should even be considered stock 200s dont like modded buicks ;)and fyi the transbrake is not needed if the car is properly setup.
 
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