FREEDOM OF SPEECH

seedling

Well-Known Member
#1
FREEDOM OF SPEECH - IT'S NOT POLITICAL - IT'S FACTUAL

Most of you may not even know me, as I don’t post a whole lot and I try to steer clear of trouble. As a matter of fact, I usually try and help keep the rule of law, and stop, or point out injustices whenever I can. However, for the record, I am a very traditionally southern raised, a Veteran, who is an Avid Outdoors-man, and a Prior Athlete who bleeds RED, WHITE AND BLUE! Most of my family have military backgrounds, a couple even have purple hearts and are highly decorated soldiers. And just as I am sure many of you have, I have friends who have died serving this GREAT NATION OF OURS. I’m not telling you this to invoke emotion, as I’m simply telling you this in hopes that you might somehow understand “MY REVERENCE FOR THE FLAG AND WHAT IT AND THIS GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS MEANS TO ME”.

The reason for my soap box today is because (in my opinion we are all under attack), yet again in this Great Nation! But, this time it is not some jihadist flying airplanes into the twin towers. No sir (or ma’am), it’s far worse than that! For you see, these ATTACKS are “PERSONAL”, and they are attacks upon our “PERSONAL LIBERTIES”, themselves. As these folks are ATTACKING THE VERY FREEDOMS THAT OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS HAVE GIVEN THEIR BLOOD (AND LIVES) FOR. What’s worse still is that they are doing so, whilst they are sitting right next to you and to me!

If you haven’t figured it out by now, I’m talking about “CENSORSHIP”, “ATTACKS UPON ONE OF OUR MOST PROLIFIC FREEDOMS – THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH”. Please know that they are doing so under the guise of “Political Correctness”, by suggesting that having a differing political opinion from theirs is wrong or offensive. The simple-truth is that if we are to continue to allow these attacks on our “FREEDOM OF SPEECH” then the nearly 3,000 that died on 09/11/01 will have done so in vain! As this is an affront to the very freedom that we are supposed to be fighting to maintain and the tyranny and oppression that we are fighting against!

Now, I will readily acknowledge that what “FREEDOM OF SPEECH” is and or exactly what it means to you, will vary widely amongst all of us here. The reality is though, that much of our “Understanding” of “Freedom Of Speech” has been distorted by the lame stream media, or by the very people who have resorted to “Weaponizing” – “FREE SPEECH” (where it clearly doesn’t apply), and more often than not, they are invoking it / using it / holding it up as a shield (to hide behind) whenever they are being criticized. The truth be told, “FREEDOM OF SPEECH” has never been more important than it is right now. In that, there are a few (very small number) of folks out there who are attempting to stifle ANY FORM of “FREE SPEECH” THAT THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH! In other words, “Freedom of Speech” is great, just as long as it agrees with their philosophy, that is!

There is a reason why these wimpy few have resorted to weaponizing “FREE SPEECH” (by saying something offends them, or by asserting that we shouldn’t be saying something that is in opposition to some line they are touting) and it IS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT ARGUE THE FACTS WITH US. Therefore, they must resort to “INFRINGING UPON OUR VERY RIGHTS TO FREE SPEECH”, as they set about having our voices silenced. And they do so whenever they GO ABOUT THIS BY REMOVING ANY SUCH COMMENT THAT THEY FIND “NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH THEIR BELIEF, OR THEIR CANDIDATE”, or whenever we say something that does not line up with “THEIR POLITICAL PERSUASION”! Therefore, I would ask you, is that really fair? I mean, who gets to decide Whose “FREE SPEECH” to “VIOLATE” and Whose to “PRESERVE”? Hmmm????? Think about it folks, as this just is not right!

Plus, I always thought that anything goes in the Turbo Lounge, right? (THANK YOU PRONTO FOR SUGGESTING THAT THE TURBO LOUNGE RULE CHANGE WAS WAY BEYOND MY TIME - WITHOUT GIVING ME A DATE – EVEN THOUGH ITS REALLY FUNNY THAT I THOUGHT THAT, BUT, I GUESS I MUST HAVE JUST DREAMED THAT UP IN MY HEAD)? So, why is it that they are stifling our “Free Speech” here? Moreover, where is our Freedom of Speech considered Safe Here anymore? And by whose terms??

HERE’S THE FLIP SIDE TO THAT COIN, ONE THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE FORGETTING? WHERE DOES THIS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS END AND / OR WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF THE ORIGINAL POSTER, TO HAVE HIS, OR HER VIEW POINT HEARD? What about the Free Speech of the individual that you are stifling??

I MEAN, I GUESS, IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER SINCE THEY ARE CONSERVATIVE THEN, RIGHT? REALLY?? SO, WHO DIED AND MADE YOU KING? I’M JUST ASKING IS ALL!

And to those who would move “To STIFLE MY Free Speech”? Then, please remember that this is a Two-Way Street and one day, it very well may come to pass that you might be the one who is wishing that you had YOUR “FREE SPEECH” BACK! That is, whenever they come and sensor you! So, what then, Mr. Censor, what then?

Honestly, if you can’t step out of the shadows and stand up like a man and defend your political mindset, position (or whatever it is), then maybe, just maybe you have no business holding, or having that position, in the first place? I mean, has it ever occurred to you that open dialogue might be helpful to your country, or your own set of beliefs? Or that open dialogue might have helped to prevent things like the holocaust, etc.? I know that means that we must take an intellectual look inside, however, I’ll stand toe to toe with any one of you who is opposed to “MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH”. But, please know that I will have “The Facts”, on my side! So, if you want to suppress my freedom of speech, then why not just man up and say so?

The First Amendment to the Constitution says:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This amendment (and all of the other amendments to the Constitution) were added because the Constitution itself, according to its drafters (and the states, which had to ratify it), didn't offer enough protections for the civil liberties from the powers of government. This is very important: freedom of speech, along with the other freedoms in the first amendment, are designed to protect the liberties of the populace against an oppressive government that would seek to squash those rights in its own self-interest.
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In conclusion, I would only ask that each and every one of you consider my point. And perhaps its time that we work on having our civil liberties protected, not just on this site, but, others as well. Because, if we can’t stand at home, then where can we stand? Look around you folks, there is Censorship of Free Speech all over the internet. Facebook, Twatter, Reddit are but a few prime examples. And I don’t know about you, but, one of the main reasons that I come here is because I didn’t have to worry about that here. However, I am utterly disgusted at what I have seen over the past few weeks wherein seemingly innocent humorous posts were totally removed because they had even the slightest hint at some form of political slant! And that just is not right! As these were harmless, simple, humorous jokes and yet the masked marauder scooped in and removed the thread, because he or she didn’t agree with the slight political against their candidate, really? I mean, seriously "Mr. Easily Offended Censorman", are you really that small, that you can’t even stand behind the people you support in public? As that is obviously the case, otherwise, we wouldn’t be having this conversation then, right?

I SAY, LET FREEDOM RING!!

Ecclesiastes 10:2
King James Bible
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.

New International Version
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
 

TexasT

Texas, Where are you from
#3
Way too much there to read, but I do know the second amendment is the one that guarantees the first amendment.

And thanks for your service.
 

seedling

Well-Known Member
#5
Way too much there to read, but I do know the second amendment is the one that guarantees the first amendment.

And thanks for your service.
Yes Sir! Very Firm believer in the Second as well! So much so, that I am always I constantly / enthusiastically looking for ways to grow my collection.


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