I hate to do to this but I feel everyone should beware as it seems we are not the first to have problems with Burhead Headers!
As I stated in a previous thread Waylon Adkins of Burhead Headers was contracted by us to build a Twin Turbo Kit for a Turbo Regal. The agreement was to build two kits and we would own the rights to the kit. I sent him $$ up front a turbo, a Cotton's IC (Thanks for letting us borrow it Jack) and a Gbody Parts IC, two waste gates and some flanges.
This project was started about a year ago with a delivery promise date of being here in time for the Pinks episode at Rockingham NC in 07! That date passed... Then it was supposed to be ready in time to go the Nats at BG 07. Weeks and weeks go by still nothing. Waylon sent Jay an email saying he needed some more money. Well Jay emailed Mr. Adkins basically getting into him about missing delivery dates and what was the problem. This email is what is what Jay owes an apology to him for according to Waylon... Waylon returned with an email with several "options" we had at "this point" plus threatening to send the stuff to china....
So I got on the phone and tried to salvage the project! I got the same thing, it will be ready soon, soon, soon, etc.... Then I was promised in early fall it would be ready with pics of it installed on a car. You can go back and look in the ESP thread and see where he posted he had "seen" this kit and pics would be up in a few weeks or soon (not sure on the quote)...
In the meantime he calls me for advice on another project he was working on and I gave him my honest opinion, don't mind saying it here but irrelevant (sorta) at this point. He says everything is great I am done all accept cool air inlet pipes for the turbo's. Well at this point we had waited so long I said just send what you got we will make that. He said great it will be there in a week or so....
A few weeks later I get a PM saying I owed him more money. I couldn't get him on the phone or by email but was getting messages through "others" from him. So I sent the money.
I called him the following Sat to ask when he was shipping the stuff. He said stuff will start to go out next week. I was ecstatic, finally something was happening. Well I had heard that Waylon made a few nasty remarks about Jay. I simply asked him "Have you been talking **** about Jay." I wasn’t mad or ill just asked. He said No. I said fine and I dropped it. Apparently he didn’t!
Well a week later I get just the IC's we sent him out and nothing else. I tried to contact him and only got some discouraging responses. I tried to work it out find out what his problem was etc.... So finally couple of weeks or so later he sends the headers. Still, no full kit mind you. I tried to email him because he woudn’t talk on the phone. I get some more weird emails back. He says "I did all this work and Jay gets to treat it like his prize winning hog!" I was floored, we hired him to do this the way Jay wanted it done and now he is mad because he didn't get enough credit. So I went back and added to the thread thanking him for all his hard work etc.... He was holding parts hostage over all this
Finally another week or 2 later the DP comes in! Still we have no IC piping, remember that....
I would receive emails not to contact him one day then next day saying call email or blah blah for help, I was
So I sent him another email trying to work out this problem. Well somebody other than Waylon wrote me an email back with a lot of legal ease in it. Waylon claims we only bought the one set of twin turbo headers and that was it...
So Brian puts the kit on a motor in his shop. It looks great on the stand but we noticed certain problems right off the bat. But they appeared minor at the start.
Well Jay went to start the install on my car today and the stuff just doesn't fit in the car Another well known Turbo Buick member was there to verify this.....
Here is the bottom line. He screwed up the job, never test fitted on a car. He still hasn't sent the IC piping and according to his email he doesn't them owe it to me. Why did he have me send him two different I/C's to make piping for if he didn't make it
I asked for my turbo back and the valves for the wastegates, I only got the turbo back, SHIPPING C.O.D….
This seems to be a pattern for him. I know of two other Turbo Buick members whom had similar experiences with, and you can find back in 02 where the LS1 guys had problems with him.
People shouldn't promise what they can't deliver, especially AFTER getting paid for it.
If you will notice he is NOT BANNED never has been, as he claims for some reason. Check his sig line. That was while I thought things were good
Not taking advantage of my position here. I placed it in feedback as any member can. I just don't want to see anyone else get the shaft.
On a side note I am not so sure this kit hasn't already been sent to China btw, if so good luck making it fit:biggrin:
We are going to complete this kit, DON'T worry! It is going to the fab shop that is local to Jay and making our 1 3/4 headers for us. Not going to say we have to start from scratch but close enough IMO....
Sorry for the wait everyone. It shouldn't take long with the new team working on this. Pics and video will be up as soon as possible!!
As I stated in a previous thread Waylon Adkins of Burhead Headers was contracted by us to build a Twin Turbo Kit for a Turbo Regal. The agreement was to build two kits and we would own the rights to the kit. I sent him $$ up front a turbo, a Cotton's IC (Thanks for letting us borrow it Jack) and a Gbody Parts IC, two waste gates and some flanges.
This project was started about a year ago with a delivery promise date of being here in time for the Pinks episode at Rockingham NC in 07! That date passed... Then it was supposed to be ready in time to go the Nats at BG 07. Weeks and weeks go by still nothing. Waylon sent Jay an email saying he needed some more money. Well Jay emailed Mr. Adkins basically getting into him about missing delivery dates and what was the problem. This email is what is what Jay owes an apology to him for according to Waylon... Waylon returned with an email with several "options" we had at "this point" plus threatening to send the stuff to china....
So I got on the phone and tried to salvage the project! I got the same thing, it will be ready soon, soon, soon, etc.... Then I was promised in early fall it would be ready with pics of it installed on a car. You can go back and look in the ESP thread and see where he posted he had "seen" this kit and pics would be up in a few weeks or soon (not sure on the quote)...
In the meantime he calls me for advice on another project he was working on and I gave him my honest opinion, don't mind saying it here but irrelevant (sorta) at this point. He says everything is great I am done all accept cool air inlet pipes for the turbo's. Well at this point we had waited so long I said just send what you got we will make that. He said great it will be there in a week or so....
A few weeks later I get a PM saying I owed him more money. I couldn't get him on the phone or by email but was getting messages through "others" from him. So I sent the money.
I called him the following Sat to ask when he was shipping the stuff. He said stuff will start to go out next week. I was ecstatic, finally something was happening. Well I had heard that Waylon made a few nasty remarks about Jay. I simply asked him "Have you been talking **** about Jay." I wasn’t mad or ill just asked. He said No. I said fine and I dropped it. Apparently he didn’t!
Well a week later I get just the IC's we sent him out and nothing else. I tried to contact him and only got some discouraging responses. I tried to work it out find out what his problem was etc.... So finally couple of weeks or so later he sends the headers. Still, no full kit mind you. I tried to email him because he woudn’t talk on the phone. I get some more weird emails back. He says "I did all this work and Jay gets to treat it like his prize winning hog!" I was floored, we hired him to do this the way Jay wanted it done and now he is mad because he didn't get enough credit. So I went back and added to the thread thanking him for all his hard work etc.... He was holding parts hostage over all this
Finally another week or 2 later the DP comes in! Still we have no IC piping, remember that....
I would receive emails not to contact him one day then next day saying call email or blah blah for help, I was
So I sent him another email trying to work out this problem. Well somebody other than Waylon wrote me an email back with a lot of legal ease in it. Waylon claims we only bought the one set of twin turbo headers and that was it...
So Brian puts the kit on a motor in his shop. It looks great on the stand but we noticed certain problems right off the bat. But they appeared minor at the start.
Well Jay went to start the install on my car today and the stuff just doesn't fit in the car
Another well known Turbo Buick member was there to verify this.....Here is the bottom line. He screwed up the job, never test fitted on a car. He still hasn't sent the IC piping and according to his email he doesn't them owe it to me. Why did he have me send him two different I/C's to make piping for if he didn't make it
I asked for my turbo back and the valves for the wastegates, I only got the turbo back, SHIPPING C.O.D….
This seems to be a pattern for him. I know of two other Turbo Buick members whom had similar experiences with, and you can find back in 02 where the LS1 guys had problems with him.
People shouldn't promise what they can't deliver, especially AFTER getting paid for it.
If you will notice he is NOT BANNED never has been, as he claims for some reason. Check his sig line. That was while I thought things were good
Not taking advantage of my position here. I placed it in feedback as any member can. I just don't want to see anyone else get the shaft.
On a side note I am not so sure this kit hasn't already been sent to China btw, if so good luck making it fit:biggrin:
We are going to complete this kit, DON'T worry! It is going to the fab shop that is local to Jay and making our 1 3/4 headers for us. Not going to say we have to start from scratch but close enough IMO....
Sorry for the wait everyone. It shouldn't take long with the new team working on this. Pics and video will be up as soon as possible!!
