I have seen blue plates take a lot of abuse where other plates would hae failed. I used them in my very first T-400 build over 10 years ago in the direct clutch pack. They did show evidence of slipping from the evidence on the steel plates(Hot spots and warped) and the clutches were turning black. My general opinion is that they are a great clutch for strength but maybe not the best as a shifting clutch. Since I didn't want to throw away those expensive clutches ,I moved the blue plates to the forward drum and since used Red Eagles in direct/intermediate with no issues.My experience with the redlined compared to the blue plates is that the blue plates are tougher. When the redlined plates get stressed to a certain point, they will sacrifice material and will thin out. The blue plates will burn, but material loss is much slower. The blue plates can take more heat and continue to operate, but the steels can't and ultimately the steels become the limiting factor. When the steels start to develop hot spots (hardened, raised spots on the surface of the plate) and warp, the clutch goes down hill fast. I have no experience with the other materials you're mentioning.
I like this one better.:biggrin:
I hope not Donnie. I've followed most of your threads and have found them very useful so I have to thank you for them.And if I did, you'd pay attention, wouldn't ya?
I'll take your word for it. I'm a rookie at metallurgy. I do have some references, but I really don't want to look it up. You guys burned me out.
Yes he is and the tech provided on the board has allowed me to understand more about these cars. I may still be considered a neby by some but understanding the way the systems work is laid out very well and has been explained more than once by quite a few members.:smile:I am glad to see this has been recycled again.There has been very little positive things going on around here lately.It is bizarre at times to see how much we evolve in in a years time.For the record Don is good people.
I was wondering if this was something anyone would care to explain? If this mod is employed does one NEED the billet forward drum? I am attempting to assemble a 2004r for my ride and doing it on a budget. Thank you for any info you could provide.I do not dual feed I remove the sleeve in the center support reposition and use the large side of the piston for 3rd clutch apply small side for reverse. Trans has very little overlap this way. Trade secret for those interested. Line 275psi.