Tesla semi truck goes 0-60 mph in 5 seconds without a trailer.

In this article the self driving car has gone 1.8 million miles and had 13 fender benders. 0 were caused by the car. All 13 were by other drivers - http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/googles-self-driving-car-is-ridiculously-safe

Another article that show self driving car is about 10 time safer than the safest driving demographic - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-safe-are-self-driving-cars_us_5908ba48e4b03b105b44bc6b

And mind you all this is still super new. They're only going to get better.
 
How much personal experience do you have with any automated system?

All you have, is agenda driven articles & wishes. :LOL:

Good luck with that.
 
Data can and will always be skewed to suit whomever or whatever the persons want to be put out there.
 
I work at the GM tech center and we have had autonomous cars driving around for a while now - the only accidents we ever have on the campus is from cars driven by a human
 
~JM~ said:
How much personal experience do you have with any automated system?

All you have, is agenda driven articles & wishes. :LOL:

Good luck with that.
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You're right. But I'm still waiting for you to produce just a single article that shows automated driving to be more dangerous than human (not just articles showing that they have been in accidents, most of which don't mention who was at fault). And there you go, buickjeff chimed in with real world experience. But you'll probably just ignore that too because it doesn't coincide with what you want to believe.
 
Rafs-T-Type said:
You're right. But I'm still waiting for you to produce just a single article that shows automated driving to be more dangerous than human (not just articles showing that they have been in accidents, most of which don't mention who was at fault). And there you go, buickjeff chimed in with real world experience. But you'll probably just ignore that too because it doesn't coincide with what you want to believe.
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There's no way to settle this until Skynet kills us all, by then who cares? Half kidding, half serious
 
No disintegrations said:
There's no way to settle this until Skynet kills us all, by then who cares? Half kidding, half serious
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Some of the top brains in the country are pretty worried about this too. Coincidentally Elon Musk being one that is hugely against AI. Stephan Hawking being another.
 
Rafs-T-Type said:
In this article the self driving car has gone 1.8 million miles and had 13 fender benders. 0 were caused by the car. All 13 were by other drivers - http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/googles-self-driving-car-is-ridiculously-safe

Another article that show self driving car is about 10 time safer than the safest driving demographic - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-safe-are-self-driving-cars_us_5908ba48e4b03b105b44bc6b

And mind you all this is still super new. They're only going to get better.
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Huffington Post is your frame of reference? :ROFLMAO:

A liberal rag produced by hysterical females?

Known world-wide as the pinnacle of journalistic integrity!

Guaranteed to cause impotence & blindness in the beta-males who read it.

A Seattle subscriber used it as a lining for her parakeet's cage.

The poor bird commited suicide.
 
~JM~ said:
Huffington Post is your frame of reference? :ROFLMAO:

A liberal rag produced by hysterical females?

Known world-wide as the pinnacle of journalistic integrity!

Gauranteed to cause impotence & blindness in the beta-males who read it.

A Seattle subscriber used it as a lining for her parakeet's cage.

The poor bird commited suicide.
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Still waiting for you to find 1 single source with data that shows human drivers to be better. How's that coming long? You know what...nevermind.

Arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good my points are you're just going to knock the pieces over, shit on the board, and strut around like you're victorious.
 
data must be shown to be skewed to prove the point of data can be skewed - just saying it doesn't make the data shown any less accurate
not trying to start anything with anyone , but it the data is skewed then it needs to be shown to be skewed
 
Pronto said:
AI will destroy many working class people. All the regular jobs that don't need a doctorate and even some of them will be all replaced by a machines that don't care about vacations, lunch or heath insurance. Glad I'm old and won't be around when the shit hits the fan.
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Me too
 
The cultural war will not be between races. It will be between humans and computers.
 
Of the 13 accidents that weren't the self driving cars' fault, how many could've been avoided if there was a human behind the wheel? A perfect example is that self driving shuttle running in Vegas. A couple of weeks ago, that stupid pos during its very first hour of operation, got into an accident. There was an 18 wheeler backing up at an extremely slow rate of speed and ended up barely kissing the front of the shuttle with its p/s fender. If I was that trucker I'd be pissed that I'm at fault for that one. Basically, the stupid shuttle is unable to comprehend road hazards and compute that it either needs to back up in reverse or maneuver around a super, slow moving big rig. Instead, it just stopped and remained stationary in the roadway. Basically, the self driving shuttle is unable to reverse or perform a low speed, evasive maneuver. Which makes you wonder about all the other wonderful self driving vehicles on our roadways.

Which brings me to that stupid Tesla rig, which obviously they didn't get any insight from real over the road truckers. Which, no surprise, Ellen Musk. First, why the hell would you have a center position seat? You already have blind spots, let's have more. Which makes me wonder, where are all the mirrors? Plus, how are you going to pay tolls or hand off paperwork? Forget about creeping in the lane next to you in order to get a view around another truck in front of you. Can't lean out the window to lookout for what's behind you or to keep an eye on your trailer when backing.

Next, that screen, no thanks. Could you even begin to imagine driving at night with that thing illuminated? Talk about a headache and probably going blind eventually. Now, walmart is the perfect tester for it, because it obviously isn't designed or intended for long hauls. It only seems suited for transporting cargo from one business hub to another.

Plus, why the hell does a semi need to go 0-60 in 5 seconds? What's the intended point? So, the driver can watch his load go dumping out the back. I'd tell you to get off the nuts, but Ellen Musk doesn't have any.
 
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Yes cause human drivers are doing a tremendous job of avoiding accidents right now - and about the tesla truck im taking a educated guess here based on what i hear thru the industry but the driver is only going to be along for the ride. the truck will handle everything for the passenger(driver) till the trucks can roll without even the passenger aboard. paying tolls can be done electronically as it is handled right now. and so can electronic hand-off of paperwork.
Mirrors are a thing of the past , cameras and proximity sensors are replacing them as we speak even on non autonomous vehicles , its just trying to make the federal regulators comfortable enough to legalize them for use. you wont believe what is capable by these technologies right now - no more blind spots , cameras that can adjust to objects around the vehicle to show things the driver isnt seeing and even not allowing the vehicle to move in the direction of something that can get hit.
will there be unseen issues with autonomous vehicles - of course there will , but those problems will be re-mediated thru further software and hardware development. it is the wave of the future and the roads will be infinity safer with it. do i like it? no i love to drive and hate to give that up , but on the way home form work today i had the joy of seeing an elderly woman who drove the wrong way around a round about , about a half dozen red light runners and someone who decided to stop in the middle of the road cause they got confused as to what driveway to turn into to get to mcdonalds. i cant help but look forward to autonomous driving in some way .
 
rodruckus said:
Of the 13 accidents that weren't the self driving cars' fault, how many could've been avoided if there was a human behind the wheel? A perfect example is that self driving shuttle running in Vegas. A couple of weeks ago, that stupid pos during its very first hour of operation, got into an accident. There was an 18 wheeler backing up at an extremely slow rate of speed and ended up barely kissing the front of the shuttle with its p/s fender. If I was that trucker I'd be pissed that I'm at fault for that one. Basically, the stupid shuttle is unable to comprehend road hazards and compute that it either needs to back up in reverse or maneuver around a super, slow moving big rig. Instead, it just stopped and remained stationary in the roadway. Basically, the self driving shuttle is unable to reverse or perform a low speed, evasive maneuver. Which makes you wonder about all the other wonderful self driving vehicles on our roadways.

Which brings me to that stupid Tesla rig, which obviously they didn't get any insight from real over the road truckers. Which, no surprise, Ellen Musk. First, why the hell would you have a center position seat? You already have blind spots, let's have more. Which makes me wonder, where are all the mirrors? Plus, how are you going to pay tolls or hand off paperwork? Forget about creeping in the lane next to you in order to get a view around another truck in front of you. Can't lean out the window to lookout for what's behind you or to keep an eye on your trailer when backing.

Next, that screen, no thanks. Could you even begin to imagine driving at night with that thing illuminated? Talk about a headache and probably going blind eventually. Now, walmart is the perfect tester for it, because it obviously isn't designed or intended for long hauls. It only seems suited for transporting cargo from one business hub to another.

Plus, why the hell does a semi need to go 0-60 in 5 seconds? What's the intended point? So, the driver can watch his load go dumping out the back. I'd tell you to get off the nuts, but Ellen Musk doesn't have any.
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Perfectly said!
Spill your drink Accel equals huge damage to cargo! Plus at that output the battery prob lasts 5 minutes
 
buickjeff said:
Mirrors are a thing of the past , cameras and proximity sensors are replacing them as we speak even on non autonomous vehicles , its just trying to make the federal regulators comfortable enough to legalize them for use. you wont believe what is capable by these technologies right now
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Jeff, do you really believe that the software won't eventually be cracked? Any idea what it would be like being in a computer controlled vehicle that can be accessed by someone else? I can assure you that you would be sitting on one butt cheek the whole way, say... over a bridge for instance. I can see the headlines in the paper now, especially from a terrorist perspective taking the credit afterwards.
 
Street Lethal said:
Jeff, do you really believe that the software won't eventually be cracked? Any idea what it would be like being in a computer controlled vehicle that can be accessed by someone else? I can assure you that you would be sitting on one butt cheek the whole way, say... over a bridge for instance. I can see the headlines in the paper now, especially from a terrorist perspective taking the credit afterwards.
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You make it sound like that's not already a thing - https://www.livescience.com/1938-police-disable-cars-demand.html
 
I cant say that cracking into the software can NEVER happen - gm I am sure is spending lots of money and engineering resources to keep that from happening tho. and if they crack the code having the ability to take over the vehicle would be incredibly remote - maybe shut it down but not take it over. that would involve once you get into the code to be able to quickly understand every line to comprehend what controls what . I guess that's why all the hijacking of computers you see basically are denial of access and not going in and changing everything. I am sure they are far more computer savvy people on this board that can expand upon that.
but right now with elements of our life that are connected on the web , none of those systems have been taken over. our power grid , defense , heck most places have traffic lights that are web connected . can you imagine a terrorist taking over our traffic lights and turning them all green? that would be far worse then a single car out of control.
Also why haven't the terrorists take over one of the military's autonomous drones? would that not be the greatest victory for them?turning one of our weapons of war against us and taking out a couple jets on one of our military bases.
 
To be honest, I think streets full of driver-less vehicles would be a complete waste of time and effort anyway, especially in the metro areas. Buses and subways always had the right idea, but again, you're subjected to other vehicles being on the road, as well as questionable drivers. I personally would like to see a Monorail system, that would essentially fix everything if you think about it since we're talking about accident prone drivers. A monorail system up above the streets, with the main ones making local stops every few blocks, as well as express lines getting you further distances in half the time, not to mention creating more jobs for people. Commuter cars would be a thing of the past. I'd also like to see a rival train to that of the one in Japan that goes 300 plus miles per hour going from the East Coast to the West Coast, and everywhere in between, though I know they are in fact considering it under Trump. We wouldn't even need Domestic planes anymore...

Hell seeing someone driving a commuter car on the road, or even a driver-less commuter car for the matter, after commuting with these two images below on a daily basis would be like watching someone playing an arcade game, prehistoric lol... ;)

WDW_Monorail_2006.jpg


fast-train_1024.jpg
 
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