I have a zillion dollars worh of bikes in my garage. 2 Pinarellos, 2 Blues, a road tandem, couple of mountain bikes and an old steelie Schwinn I bought to restore one day. Havent ridden any of them in at least 5 years.
Joe and Fred did not live close to each other so thats not surprising.
Im about 99% sure Joe did his chips. There werent a lot of guys doing them back then. Just like me, a whole bunch of places sold our stuff without saying it was our stuff.