marleyskater420
still needs to learn
- Joined
- Aug 14, 2004
I hear ya man.
Not to sound all cocky or whatever, but until we (RPS) came around, there wasn't really any pushing Borg Warner turbos, and definitely no one selling WORK custom units for the Buicks.
Sad part is that Reed, the owner of WORK turbo, has more experience building turbos, designing his own custom billet wheels and housings, and testing these units on Buicks that any other person/company that is offering turbos for the Buicks right now. And I mean any person.
Yet because no one has really heard of WORK turbos in the Buick V6 world, people don't give them a shot. In the turbo V8 world they are all over the place, and you can even see WORK turbos being one of the supporting sponsors at the end of Urban Hillbilly videos on Youtube-just search for "Urban Hillbilly Street Racing" or No Prep, and at the end of the video you will see WORK turbos as one of the sponsors of their videos....I say this to emphasize the point that WORK is out there winning races and kicking ass, but because no one has pushed their stuff until we at RPS came around, people don't realize just how much experience WORK really has.
I mean dude..their custom billet 6465 turbo just made 932awhp horsepower at the wheel...ON AN ALL-WHEEL-DRIVE DYNO!!! That is fucking nuts for a 64mm turbo!!!! If you figure the drivetrain loss for an all-wheel-drive car is between 25% - 30%, that means that the WORK 6465 turbo was pushing between 1,250-1,300hp at the crank on that Evo...that is just ridiculous...
For comparison purposes, Precision rates their Gen 2 CEA 6466 turbo at 900hp at the flywheel.....
Anyway, sorry for my rant...it gets frustrating sometimes because people are so resistant to change, or scared to try something new..but hey, to each their own!
I do hope that if you ever are in need of a Borg Warner, Garrett, or a custom WORK unit, that you hit us up and at least let us throw our hats in the ring and show you just how competitive the WORK turbo pricing is compared to the equivalent turbo from PTE...
Back to the OP's setup...
I still am of the opinion that if all he wants is mid 9s, good street manners, and to not have to push the car past 30psi, his Gen 2 CEA 6870 turbo will give him more flow than he will need.
Unless there is something seriously wrong with the OP's turbo that he hasn't mentioned, or I didn't catch, it makes absolutely zero sense for him to spend $2,600 on a brand new turbo other than him wanting to have the new "flavor of the week" and PTE's latest turbo release.
I see absolutely no reason, based on the parameters he set forth in his original post, that his 6870 will not suffice for his needs.
After re-reading his posts, it NOW makes sense why he is being told to buy the latest and greatest turbo...forget the fact their customer already has a turbo that will be more than sufficient for his needs, let's try to sell him something new at full price and get some more money out of him...
Fucking depressing that people get roped into this type of shit like the OP is going through.
Your money would be better spent getting an excellent aftermarket boost controller like an Eboost 2, Boost Leash, or an AMS 1000 if you can find one for a great deal (I can refer you to a reputable site where there is a barely-used AMS 1000 with wastegate solenoids for $475) than wasting your money on a new turbo. OR convert your turbo to a 4 bolt twin scroll housing, pick up some twin scroll 4 bolt headers, or have some made for you, and use those for your setup. You will see more of a gain in your car from a proper boost controller and a great set of headers that provide minimal backpressure while decrease the spool time so that you reach peak boost quicker.
