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Owners with GT6152's combo's and times please.
Borrowing the success of the TE45-a thread..........
I am really considering what to do........ I have a TE 60 that needs a freshening. I have the tools and a machinist to help me take it apart and put it back together if I decide to buy a 360 deg rebuild kit from Limit Engineering...... That is the cheaper alternative. Option 2 would be to send the turbo in and upgrade it to something else. My current mods are in my sig. I have read great things about the GT 6152 and think this would be the perfect turbo for my car. I am currently running a stock longblock, but have aspirations to install a set of ported Champions w/ported intake and a hyd roller cam at some point when the engine has to be freshened........ but currently the longblock is stock. My goal is to go low 11's.... maybe dip into the high 10's on 93+alky. Eddie Brewer has been 11.37 on the stock turbo on a full weight stock longblock car..... so this motivates me to really get what I can get out of my stock setup.....I'm looking for high 11's soon with the changes I have made since my last track outing.....still with the stock turbo. I need to get the TE60 ready for whatever I am going to do (rebuild it vs. upgrade it). Jay at Limit is suggesting to go to a TE62.... So..... need to see some combos and some times..... to help me decide. Is anyone running the 4"/2.5" version of the 6152? I think this is what I could best utilize if I go that direction, because I have a 3-1/2" MAF pipe and LS1 MAF sensor and big mouth cold air kit that will go on when I get the kinks worked out. Let me know what you guys think.
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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im gonna give ya a TTT as im very interested in the 6152
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11.03 at 122.7 (22 psi) (best mph:124.1 on my old setup) 87 GN, .030 over 109 with RJC girdle, PT61, 60#s, PTC 3000 9.5" n/l ported irons, 210/215 hyro roller, GN1performance SE headers, 2.5" ATR exhaust, 3" ATR DP ,ebay fmic, moser axles, Ls1 MAF, fuel mods, home built billet tranny, umi lowers CAs, ATR rear sway bar, 1LE 36mm front sway bar, QA1 economy coil overs, Howe longer ball joints, SPC front upper control arms, bilsteins, Richmond 3.23s, eaton posi, ls1 brakes front and rear. Dads 86 GN-ported heads, 204/214, ATR headers/exhaust, PT61, 60s, alky, 3400 9/11, ebay front mount (supporting mods...) 11.09 at 126 24 psi. 87 T- 12.1 at 117.3 ... new combo now girdled 109/ported heads/215/220 roller, old 60-1 stage 5 turbo etc.... modded 85 GN |
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I've got the 6152E with the mods in my sig. I am running the stock intercooler and stock exhaust minus cat. Unopened engine with stock valve springs.
I've only run my car in the 1/8, and I'm not totally sure what the boost was. The gauge would only read to 16lbs, but probably somewhere between 18-22 lbs. I had my TurboTweak chip set at 21 degrees of timing. I was only able to get one run in at near full throttle because all of my vaccuum hoses were blowing off (including the fuel pressure regulator ), I'm luck to still have headgaskets.Anyway I ran a 7.9 at 90 mph with a 1.95 60'. Pump gas and alky. The turbo spools just fine with my converter. I drove it for a little while on the stock converter and was not impressed.
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I plan on running my GT6152 on a stock engine combo except for the injectors and dutt neck. Just put it in last week. I'll run about 25lbs boost on alky with 26/21 timing on a Turbotweak chip with alky. With a 1.6 60ft or better I'm hoping to start out in the high 11's and bring it to mid or lower 11's with a good tune. We'll see how much the stock IC and heads limit me. I want to try for 11's on the stock turbo (a good one this time, not the POS I just took out) before I upgrade everything. I'm interested to see how much boost this turbo can take before it starts to drop off. The 26/21 timing is what I read alot of people are using on alky. Would like to hear if anyone has tried higher timing.
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'86 White T Type: 10.19@129.1mph, 1.47 60ft, 22lbs boost. Pump gas and alky. '87 GN: 11.97@108.1mph, 1.58 60ft, 22lbs boost. Pump gas and alky. Stock turbo. '87 Regal clone: 11.58@113.9mph, 1.62 60ft, 25lbs boost. Pump gas and alky. TE44 turbo.
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It will be interesting to see how well my T runs with the 6152S once the new motor goes together and gets broken in. I decided to step it on up a bit....206/210 roller, 1.6 rockers, forged pistons, main caps, pte fmic....after hurting the high mile bottom end. I'm hoping for some 11's on pump gas and radials.....then turn it on up with some race gas and drag radials to see what she's got....
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Don, Does PTE use the GT wheel on the compressor and 52 exhaust wheel on their PT61? Do they have the 4"/2.5" housing option available? Can you get the garrett exhaust housing..... or the precision housing? TIA
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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I love this Turbo!!! See sig... When I get some more seat time, Tune up the timing and my new ET streets she may break in the 10's!
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'87 TR - White Hardtop - GT6152, PTE Stock Location, 65lbs inj, Postons Headers, ATR 3” DP & 3” Crossflow, 3000 Precision, Extreme, MAFT+ w/ Truck Maf, 206/206, Ported Irons, Champion Lower – With a 27/25 tune – 10.834 @ 124.29 with 1.567 60’ – Stock Wheels! Sold http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...9FC6327663.htm 87 Limited TR - Black/Gray Leather - Stock 68 Chevelle SS 396 4 speed |
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When I had that turbo, ported heads, 206/206 roller cam, 17 row I-C, 3400 stall 9/11 converter, one of my transmissions, the car went 11.20`s @121 consistantly with only 21 psi and easy 1.6 60fts. With all else being the same with my combo, it went 11.20 @ 121 with 22psi with a TE-45a.
My opinion is that is the best quick spooling, most powerful "street" turbo I have used. And have have used almost all of them. Brian
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87 Turbo T, Silver with maroon interior, and 35K miles. PTE 61-52E, CAS V-4, 42lb inj, 65mm t-b and HEMCO upper, TINMAN cold air kit. Powered by ALKY control. 11.77 @ 114, 23 psi (resting on jackstands )87 Turbo T, Blue on blue, ex DEA car, 9.5 PTC N/L 2800 @ 0 boost conv, Champion ported heads and intake, stock cam and bottom end w/ 117K, ESP front mount, PT62-65DBB, 55 inj, Hemco, 3.42 gears with a locker, 10.82 @ 125 @25 psi 1.61 60ft on Hoosier drag radials. Need a Hi Perf trans? Email me... hipsibri@cs.com |
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Just thought I'd put some pics in of my new GT6152 turbo and some pics of it next to the stock turbo I took out.
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'86 White T Type: 10.19@129.1mph, 1.47 60ft, 22lbs boost. Pump gas and alky. '87 GN: 11.97@108.1mph, 1.58 60ft, 22lbs boost. Pump gas and alky. Stock turbo. '87 Regal clone: 11.58@113.9mph, 1.62 60ft, 25lbs boost. Pump gas and alky. TE44 turbo.
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I REALLY want to upgrade mine. I need to call Chopper and finalize the details. Is anyone running the 4"/2-1/2" version? Does it have any HP advantage over the run-of-the-mill version? It appears the stock wastegate actuator will work?
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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Don,
What's your best price on one with a 3" inlet? .63 Pte housing, HD actuator, thanks
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87 Astroroof GN, GNX dash, .30 over forged TRW's, Billet caps, Champion iron's, beehive springs, T&D Roller Rockers, Comp Cams 206/206 roller, 60lb injectors, Eric Marshall chip, PTE FMIC, John Craig TE45A, Jannis tranny, PTS 9x11 3200, THDP, Racetronix 340 kit, OGS Propane, Hooker dual 2.5" 06 VW GTI, 6 speed, Newspeed Cold Air intake, APR Stage 1 tune, 250hp/300ft lbs Pics: http://community.webshots.com/album/118524452IqWxEM |
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Don.... sent you a PM.....
On a related note... I talked (tonight) to a guy I got my wheels/tires from in Michigan that has a 6152GTQ (He wasn't sure why they called it that...???) he got from Precision..... He was running a well tuned TA49....he loved the 49.... but after riding around with the 6152.... he couldn't believe the difference..... He can't wait til the thaw up there when the track opens back up. It really gives me something to look forward to... since I still have the stocker on..... if I get it into the 11's...... it is really going to motivate with the larger hairdrier on it.....
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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I bought the gt 6152gtq from aggressive last year. They could not explain the gtq. I believe i also talked to don @precision.But same response. probably just a gt6152? But it is a great turbo. I can't wait until the powerstroke is completely installed. I'll talk at ya later Brian good luck with turbo probably the best street turbo . Not too big and laggy and not too small.
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Years ago, I had a TE63, P-Trim on my stage motor. It had a large compressor cover, with a 2.5" exducer, but a 3" inducer....... Can a 6152 be made with this cover? Would it fit and still work with the integral wastegate?
I have a regular 6152 (PT61) that I bought the year they came out. (bought at the Nats) works fantastic. Bob |
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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Nice picture Don!!!
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Somebody in my backyard turning times This Thursday night..40-50's.. time to turn it up
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Every part you change has a consequence.. its tough to get the combo to work.. My old TTA has the TE67 with the 3 in 2 out. My new TTA has the TE67 with the 4 in 2.5 out. Both cars were running similar times at lower boost levels like 22-23 PSI. Like low 11's. Tuning has taken mine way further than any bolt on part. So keep working on the tuneup.. it is the key to making power.. assumming the motor is sound. Meaning has low leakdown, valve springs are tight, cam is healthy, etc.. HTH PS.. get some sticky tires and leave under boost.. your 1/8 will drop like a hammer.
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Ohh, what a day!!! This turbo continues to amaze me!! I was so close to that 10 sec slip, but Moroso kindly asked me to stop running Well next time..
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'87 TR - White Hardtop - GT6152, PTE Stock Location, 65lbs inj, Postons Headers, ATR 3” DP & 3” Crossflow, 3000 Precision, Extreme, MAFT+ w/ Truck Maf, 206/206, Ported Irons, Champion Lower – With a 27/25 tune – 10.834 @ 124.29 with 1.567 60’ – Stock Wheels! Sold http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...9FC6327663.htm 87 Limited TR - Black/Gray Leather - Stock 68 Chevelle SS 396 4 speed |
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As far as the 4"/2.5" ..... Do you think this is worth the $50 price difference? I will eventually put my big mouth cold air kit back on which has a 3-1/2" MAF pipe and necks up to 4" before the air filter itself. I guess you just run a 3-1/2" to 4" reducer off the turbo into the MAF pipe? I am getting closer to pulling the trigger on one of these units. I might have someone locally interested in my 60 (which has just sat in a box since I got it). If I move this soon, I will probably go on and get one.
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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When- Yesterday (Sunday) Where- Moroso Not exactly your backyard (Bradenton), if it was I'm sure Dave would've probably gotten that 10 sec. timeslip and would've made more than two passes... When you say turn it up you mean jet it up right??
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Just wanted to add.. its my "In case of Laz" button
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Just do it brian you won't be disappointed. I probably will stay will this turbo until i do heads. It's gotta be good for high 10's. I will call you with the results after the powerstroke is installed can us say BBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTT
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I'm liking that Sig alot. Damn, and that's with the stock cam. I just want to get a the roller 212/212, roller rockers and the entire bit installed at Cottons and hit the track. 11s or bust on 93 octane.
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87 GN bought 6/10/04 Grooms Lvl 3 Short .040, H210/205, PT6152E, VPE Stage 3 Heads/I, 3K 9/12 TC, Extender(19/17), THDP, 65lb Inj, FMIC, ATR 3" Dual Crossflow, Kirban front/seat braces, Bilsteins, UMI UCA/LCA, Trans/LT1, Big Mouth CAI, RJC Boost Cont., Custom Servo, PTS shift kit, RJC DSOP, DS poly Mount. SOLD - 1/26/2007 |
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Just when I think I have made up my mind to wait a little longer....... my goal is to go mid to high 11's on the stocker before I change turbos anyway.......you guys keep giving this turbo some more kudos...... LOL ....... I guess I need to sell my TE60..... then I won't have a choice.... except to go buy one of these.............
Who is running the S cover on theirs? besides Don? .... 4" inlet seems like a good upgrade for $50..... especially if I am planning on running my big mouth cold air kit with a 3-1/2" MAF pipe and LS1 MAF meter.......
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1987 GN Just coming out of a coma.... N/A 109 block bored .030 over with head studs, main studs #2 and #3 billet main caps, cometics, TRW forged .030 over slugs with hastings moly rings, ported stock heads with stainless valves, RJC FMIC, T&D 1.65 roller rockers, Comp Custom Ground Hydraulic Roller 218/218@.050 .590/.573 (with 1.65 rockers), champion ported intake, Hemco stock appearing doghouse, 60# injectors, PT70 P-trim turbo with H comp. housing, 3" TH DP with test pipe and hooker cat back, Walbro 340 pump, Razor's Alky, TT Chip, 3-1/2" MAF pipe with Big Mouth CA Kit and LS1 MAF, Translator.... yada yada New times soon. (1/8) 8.002 @ 86 mph 12.650 @ 106 mph with a 1.71 60' time with the stock turbo/dutt neck intercooler (best mph was 107.69 mph) |
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i just got me a set of the old kenne bell 1.65 roller rockers too. just gotta order some RJC spacers for the valve covers then i'm set
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