Buschur Racing full interior Evo RS runs 9's on straight pump gas!!!

[86brick]

Buschur Racing RS - 9's on pump & LOW 9's on race!- Video

Supposedly this car was ran on straight Sunoco 94 octane pump gas WITHOUT alky injection, and then on race gas it runs low 9's @150+ MPH. That is some serious power for a little 4 cylinder on straight pump fuel, very impressive what these guys have accomplished with the 4G63 motor although I would be interested in knowing what all was done to this particular motor as well as a solid answer on how much boost he was running, heard he was running 30lbs on pump and around 40lbs on race but there seems to be some conflicting numbers so who knows.

[forcedfedv6]

Thats your worst nightmare right there imaging running into one of those on the streets and thinking you are all badAZZ with your 11sec GN , SImply amazing he must be making at least 700 to the wheels to be running that fast ..

[86brick]

Originally Posted by forcedfedv6

Thats your worst nightmare right there imaging running into one of those on the streets and thinking you are all badAZZ with your 11sec GN , SImply amazing he must be making at least 700 to the wheels to be running that fast ..

We have some very fast ones down here, the one guys shop is a few miles from where I live and his has been high 8's. Definitely gotta watch out for them the only thing worse then getting beat by a 6 cylinder is getting beat by a 4 cylinder!

[1BADTT]

Just plain sick Whether we like it or not these cars are just getting faster x the second!! I definitely have to stop going to my local track & hanging out @ the dyno ...I'm almost completely convinced that TBs suck!

[Rodney87GN]

That is very impressive...and the best part is it looks just like any other Evo on the street. I've seen a lot of Evo's here with more stickers and body mods, and I know they're not even close to running that fast.

[GNsnake]

Nice car and super quick. How much time and money are in it and how long will it last? Is it reliable as street car? I wish someone with big money would do that to a TB. Anyway don't street that dude.

[boostingbuick]

I am at a lost for words. The amount of money must be crazy. And the power is even more crazy. WOW.

[forcefed3.8's]

I remember the first time I saw an Evo, Buschur had one before you could buy them here, it ran mid 12's and I was impressed with that.
Those cars are very reliable. You just have to remember, the engines in those cars are far more advanced than our pushrod 2 valve V6's. They are able to run very high boost with pump gas (boost levels we need race fuel to acheive), and boost levels on race fuel usually reserved for diesels. The old DSM's have been in the 7's and 6's for years. It doesn't make our cars suck. Look at how many big inch tubbed Camaros are only running in the 10's. And as far as money goes, it takes alot to make anything run those times, no matter what it is. These newer turbo cars are getting all of the new turbo technology, technology our cars help develope. Turbo technology has changed so much in the past 10, even 5 years, and keeps getting better by the day. The big problem is the Turbo Buicks are such a small part of the market, it takes a minute for the new stuff to trickle down to us. Then we want everything to bolt on.

[david buschur]

Hi guys.

I'm David, the owner of the car. I've been a member here for quite some time, had a few turbo Buicks and a few old Buicks too.

Details on the car. For those of you wondering.
2004 Mitsubishi Evolution RS
122 cubic inch stock block
stock crank
stock head casting

Engine is our BR (Buschur Racing) Stage 3, which is all balanced, upgraded rods and pistons.
Head is our BR Stage 3, which is ported, upgraded springs/retainers, valves and o-ringed.

The turbo is just a new version of a GT35r. The car has made 700 whp on our Mustang AWD dyno in the past. This particular day it was dyno'd only in 3rd gear (which produces lower numbers as it is not 1:1) and it made 635 whp. Our dyno for reference reads very low compared to a Dynojet.

Back to the engine.

Engine runs a set of our custom ground cams, about .420 lift is all, hydraulic, stock lifters, stock rockers.

BR air to air front mount
BR 2.5" upper and lower i/c pipes
BR lightweight battery kit
BR coil on plug ignition
BR double pumper, stock fuel lines, stock fuel pressure regulator
1200 cc injectors (120 #'s)
BR fuel rail
Wilson Manifolds ported stock intake manifold
BR 65 mm throttle body
BR 3" turbo back exhaust with our bullet muffler
AEM EMS for fuel management, which I do the tuning on

The transmission is stock, it was rebuilt with new syncros in the spring of 2007. Transfer case, front axles, rear axles and rear differential are all stock. The driveshaft is a 2 piece standard steel unti from DEVO Tuning.

I have raced this car hard since it was new in 2004. In that time it has broken one stock drivers side axle and one aftermarket transfer case I tried. No other driveline parts have ever broken.

The car, if driven on the highway at 65-70 mph, will get 28+ mpg.

The boost on the 9.72 pump gas run was 31 psi peak. I turned it down for the next one to 28 and it ran the 9.78.

On the race gas passes the peak boost was 40, the datalog never hit 41.

I honestly didn't expect the car to go as fast as it did. I've been very stubborn in the past and refused to run a slick on the car because it is my street car. We've always run it on Hoosier QTP DOT's. The car ran a best of 9.42 at 155.78 mph with those tires.

The car was up 35 whp from the last time we ran it and we put the slicks on. I expected, on a really good run, to maybe see a 9.2X and that was my goal for this year. Needless to say three 9.1's in a row left me pretty happy.

How reliable is the engine? Extremely, you guys would be shocked. The last two problems I had were both from some failure that was a "freak". I lost a cam sensor which hurt the cylinder head. Just bolted another head back on. Right now two of the cylinders are down a little and it is probably from the sensor going, obviously it's not hurting it too much. haha

As for the 8 second EVO in Florida that was mentioned. There isn't one. I'm not sure who was being referred to but there are only 3, 8 second EVO8-9's in the country right now. They are all gutted tin cans, one of which I own. AMS, Buschur Racing and a guy named Brandon from New Jersey are the only EVO's to have run 8's. Our full blown drag car with a GT42r on it has only run 8.8 at 172.74 mph, MPH is there but the ET sucks considering how fast my car ran. My car is also quite a bit heavier than our drag car. We are going to work on that as the other car should be running in the low-low 8's but getting the suspenstion/trans to cooperate with 1,000+ whp is proving to be very difficult. As a matter of fact we put a small T67 Ptrim on the car and it ran 8.96 at 166 mph, nearly as quick with 250 less HP.

This car is no joke, it is extremely reliable is driven on the street, it drives extremely well, not really much different that stock other than the clutch being grabby and it being louder.

Thanks for the interest.

[Grumpy]

David... very impressive

[mr go fast]

Very nice car driven by one hell of a driver.

[david buschur]

Thank you!

I can't drive worth a damn, the driver is a very good, long time friend of mine Kevin Lawson. He's driven a few of our race cars over the years too, very good driver. Needless to say he's anxious for me to find another couple of HP to see if he can't drop it into the 8's.

I think just the cool fall air and another day with traction good enough we can get it there. I'm always on a quest for a more perfect combination though, so I'm sure next time it goes to the track it will have a few more HP.

I just don't want to go bigger on the turbo, a GT35r is pretty laggy on a 2 liter as it is and takes some of the fun out of driving it. Going bigger than that makes it just suck on the street in my opinion. Right now it makes 20 psi at about 4800 rpm, peak torque is about 6200 rpm, it will rev to over 10,000 rpm without a problem but the power band doesn't call for it for it to go fast. Shifts are made at about 9,000 and I think we'd have gone faster if we had dropped them down to 8500 rpm instead. We'll try that next time. Shifting at 9,000 had the car dropping to 7,000 on the gear change which was after peak torque and not ideal.

[86brick]

Originally Posted by david buschur

As for the 8 second EVO in Florida that was mentioned. There isn't one. I'm not sure who was being referred to but there are only 3, 8 second EVO8-9's in the country right now. They are all gutted tin cans, one of which I own.

Hi David,

Thanks for posting in this thread and giving us the 411 on your ride! You are also correct, I made the mistake of saying high 8's, the car I was referring to is Mike at USPMotorsports~ USP Motorsports - VW Audi Porsche Performance Upgrades seen in this vid.

YouTube Video

I know he has run some 9.30's maybe 20's @ somewhere in the 150-160mph range with his black Evo8 seen in the dyno vid. He has also won quite a few street races down here including beating a true high 8 sec (ran 8.90's @154mph at BMP) LS2 400+ cube N20 powered T/A. I think his goal is to eventually have it run in the 8's and it seems like he is making some good power.

PS: If I remember correct Mike's Evo8 was originally owned by Kurt Brown??

[S2V6RACER]

Damn, that car is plain sick!!!!! Time to get that car in TSO.

[Buicksx2]

Sick sure is the right word.........Congrats Dave.

[wile87]

are those cars all wheel drive to ? a ton of them things runnin around here on the nw side of chicago or should i say little poland. that's all you see ,those and the wrx's

[1BADTT]

Originally Posted by wile87

are those cars all wheel drive to ? a ton of them things runnin around here on the nw side of chicago or should i say little poland. that's all you see ,those and the wrx's

Beware my friend, north Chicago is AMS Performance territory. They have some wicked fast EVOs up there...

[wile87]

thier out in the burbs. these kids out here all have the garbage can mufflers on these things that mommy and daddy bought them. only a few of them are really runnin serious and you can tell who they are

[david buschur]

Yes, the cars are AWD.

Mike's, the shop posted about in Florida, is actually a good friend of mine and probably our largest wholesaler of our product line.

I built the shortblock in Mike's car He has gone 9.3's.

TSO, that would be great. See if you can talk Lasiter into letting me run the car in the class just for the fun of it I'll be there in a minute! Even just let me run qualifying.

[REAPER231]

WOW VERY IMPRESSIVE TO SAY THE LEAST , WHAT YOU WOULD SAY THAT BUILDUP COST TO DO ONE LIKE THAT .

[david buschur]

To duplicate everything on this car would cost close to $30,000 in parts and labor. A lot of it isn't necessary but it I added up all the parts, like I did for a quote today, that is about where it would be. That would dropping the car off and picking it up ready to run.

I know the comments will probably start saying, "Oh my God for $30,000 my car would run 7's." Rest assured it doesn't take long to get to that figure in a Buick, I know because I did it.

An EVO will run 12's for next to nothing, no tire change, boost, exhaust, an air filter and a tune. 11's don't take much more than that, similar to a well thought out and done right Buick. Dropping into the 10's costs a little more but can be done on a stock engine/shortblock with just a small turbo upgrade and injectors on top of what it took you to get to 11's. By that time you've spent about $7500 plus the clutch you chose which can range from $500 to $1600.

There's a guy from the east coast running 10.0's on the stock shortblock and doing it cosistently. Not common though. The stock rods/pistons in the car will make 500 whp and run up to about 8,000 rpm reliably for quite awhile but if either fails and rod breaks it will cost you a new block as it usually put a hole in the block when the rod goes. A new block is $1800, so most guys save that expense once they get the itch to fo fast and just build the shortblock first.

The shortblock in my car we sell for $3,000. It will make 1,000+hp, can be driven anywhere and will go to 10,000+ rpm no problem.

The head is $1600 and has the same description as the block.

There is always a way to shortcut things but we don't believe in that, so if we do the engine it gets a complete new Mitsubishi engine gasket kit, new timing belt, new tensioner, new oil cooler, new front cover, new oil pump gears, oil, antifreeze, filters etc., all that ends up costing another $1100.

Engine management, we use the AEM EMS the most often, there are a few cheaper options but this is what we prefer, you can find it cheaper piecing it together through Ebay or some douche bag company but getting support.............good luck. The complete kit with support from us is $2150.

Double pumper fuel system is $500. Drops in, uses stock fuel lines.

Ignition upgrade is $985, it's a coil on plug CDI ignition, we build it. Cheaper options on that too but good luck on warranty and reliability.

Suspension for all 4 corners is $1100. Good enough to road race, autocross or drag race on, full single adjustable coil overs. Adjustable ride height etc.

The $30,000 price tag also includes all the lightweight components we make, like a rear mustache bar (holds the rear differential in place), rear differential supports, front center member. Light weight 2 piece aluminum hat rotors for the big stock Brembo brakes.

If a guy could do all the labor himself and had a machine shop he could trust the build price would go down pretty substantially. The price I quoted, like I said, is completely built, tuned and ready to drive home to wherever you lived and go race it at any type of event you chose. The car will knock out over 25 mpg, I'd gaurantee that and if it got as high as 32 mpg on the highway I wouldn't fall out of my chair in shock if you called and told me.

The only thing that price wouldn't include is the tires/wheels you wanted to run.

A good friend/customer of mine we built a car for over the winter recently ran his car. It has non of the lightweight stuff on it we build, stock heavy rotors, A/C, power windows, power door locks, an amp. He drive his car every single day it's nice outside. He has gotten 28 mpg driving from the Cleveland area down to Cincinnati which he does pretty often. The week before I ran these times he ran a 10.1 at 143 on straight pump gas. After 2 years on his transmission his 4th gear syncro gave up, so he couldn't get 4th gear. The car had a 1.43 sixty foot, had it not given up, he'd have gone 9's on pump gas too. It has also gone 9.8 at 149 mph on race gas.

I personally, loved my Buick, had a WE4. I also had zero luck with the car. Everytime I thought I'd figured it out, something else would happen. I know I had $60,000 wrapped up in it by the time I was done. Bad luck I guess cause I sure know of a lot of fast ones. I sold it for about a 1/4 of what I had in the entire project, just disgusted.

This car though, has been a freak for me and my luck really couldn't have been much better. It's nice when it goes that way. Literally hundreds of hours have been spent developing it all though.

[V6RACER]

WOW... How much would you sell the car for?

[REAPER231]

thanks for the info dave , that is cheap at that level of performance , when you figure my 535 pontiac mountain motor alone cost 20,000 + . but its also good to 1600+ hp. If i were to own a nasty import , only 3 come to mind to me that i would want .

1. skyline
2.supra
3. nasy evo (no spoiler)

all everyday drivers of course

[GNBRETT]

It must be because of the "Stock carpet". That explains it! J/k.... That is not a pretty car to say the least. Maybe ugly is a little extreme but I Know the new ones are wicked nice and totally better looking then that model year.

Good mph tho no matter what kinda power adder it has or hasn't. Impressive I guess but anyone can write anything about their car in a YouTube video. How would anyone know? Maybe it has hidden nitrous plumbing? Reguardless, impressive for a 4,6 or 8 cylinder for sure. It's a wicked sleeper for sure. No doubt about that.

As much as it kills me to say this I could see myself getting out of the TR world someday and getting into one of those new EVO X's maybe. Unlikely, but maybe. Like everyone my interests shift from time to time. The problem is if I ever sold my car I might beable to buy a stock EVO X and have to put another $20-30k into it. Car is fast there is no doubt about that. But owning a TR is more then just going fast. For a lot of us it brings us back to the 80's when life seemed much less trying. If I see an EVO X on the street it gets my attention but how often do you see a nice TR on the street? I can honestly say I have maybe seen (10) on the street over the last (5) years that I would consider impressive.

Go to McDonalds on North Ave. in Bridgeport, Connecticut on a Wednesday night and you will see (10) EVO's in one night. Maybe not EVO X's but in a couple of years im sure the lot will be full of EVO X's. Nothing wrong with that. I love Supras as well. Hell I love any fast car with a turbo. I don't hate on the imports by any means but owning a TR is more then going fast. It's about owning a piece of history with a car that basically started the turbo world as we know it today.

I think it all comes down to your age. But like any new car these days there will another model out next year to replace the current model. That goes for Vetts, Mustangs, etc... You can't say that about a TR.

[KevinB]

Originally Posted by david buschur

A good friend/customer of mine we built a car for over the winter recently ran his car. It has non of the lightweight stuff on it we build, stock heavy rotors, A/C, power windows, power door locks, an amp. He drive his car every single day it's nice outside. He has gotten 28 mpg driving from the Cleveland area down to Cincinnati which he does pretty often. The week before I ran these times he ran a 10.1 at 143 on straight pump gas. After 2 years on his transmission his 4th gear syncro gave up, so he couldn't get 4th gear. The car had a 1.43 sixty foot, had it not given up, he'd have gone 9's on pump gas too. It has also gone 9.8 at 149 mph on race gas.

I beleive you are talking about Tim's car. B@D@SS for sure. Everyone on our local board is pulling for him to get that first 9 second pass

Originally Posted by V6RACER

WOW... How much would you sell the car for?

That car mentioned above is for sale for around $40K.

[ts87ttype]

No bar

[1BADTT]

Thanx 4 laying out the cost on the buildup Dave ! That should erase anyones doubt that a 9.1 TSM TR is cheaper than this EVO...PERIOD!

[86brick]

Originally Posted by GNBRETT

It must be because of the "Stock carpet". That explains it! J/k.... That is not a pretty car to say the least. Maybe ugly is a little extreme but I Know the new ones are wicked nice and totally better looking then that model year.

Good mph tho no matter what kinda power adder it has or hasn't. Impressive I guess but anyone can write anything about their car in a YouTube video. How would anyone know? Maybe it has hidden nitrous plumbing? Reguardless, impressive for a 4,6 or 8 cylinder for sure. It's a wicked sleeper for sure. No doubt about that.

As much as it kills me to say this I could see myself getting out of the TR world someday and getting into one of those new EVO X's maybe. Unlikely, but maybe. Like everyone my interests shift from time to time. The problem is if I ever sold my car I might beable to buy a stock EVO X and have to put another $20-30k into it. Car is fast there is no doubt about that. But owning a TR is more then just going fast. For a lot of us it brings us back to the 80's when life seemed much less trying. If I see an EVO X on the street it gets my attention but how often do you see a nice TR on the street? I can honestly say I have maybe seen (10) on the street over the last (5) years that I would consider impressive.

Go to McDonalds on North Ave. in Bridgeport, Connecticut on a Wednesday night and you will see (10) EVO's in one night. Maybe not EVO X's but in a couple of years im sure the lot will be full of EVO X's. Nothing wrong with that. I love Supras as well. Hell I love any fast car with a turbo. I don't hate on the imports by any means but owning a TR is more then going fast. It's about owning a piece of history with a car that basically started the turbo world as we know it today.

I think it all comes down to your age. But like any new car these days there will another model out next year to replace the current model. That goes for Vetts, Mustangs, etc... You can't say that about a TR.

I personally would NEVER sell my TR for an EVO for pretty much the same reasons that were stated above, but I will give them credit where credit is due as it is pretty darn impressive in my opinion to see this kind of performance from a little 122 cubic inch 4banger! Regardless of whether or not you like the looks of the car or the fact that it's an import, it's pretty hard to argue with those numbers on straight pump gas from a full interior street car.

[GNBRETT]

Tru that.

[Limited87]

Originally Posted by GNBRETT

It must be because of the "Stock carpet". That explains it! J/k.... That is not a pretty car to say the least. Maybe ugly is a little extreme but I Know the new ones are wicked nice and totally better looking then that model year.

Good mph tho no matter what kinda power adder it has or hasn't. Impressive I guess but anyone can write anything about their car in a YouTube video. How would anyone know? Maybe it has hidden nitrous plumbing? Reguardless, impressive for a 4,6 or 8 cylinder for sure. It's a wicked sleeper for sure. No doubt about that.

I was gonna let David do all talking about this car but I have to chime in here. I was there helping out with the car and doing some of the video taping. (You can see me in the one pict on the video with my blue Buick Motorsports shirt on ) Kevin the driver of the Evo and I have been friends for 30 years.

Let me state for the record this car has NO NITROUS or any other power adder that isnt mentioned! PERIOD! David builds sick fast rides and knows what he is doing. I have known David for many years and he is an extreamly honest person and is a man of integrity! To say his Buick WE4 he had for years was nice is an understatement. Hopefully he will be back someday to the TR world!

Brian

[ts87ttype]

Again and to the point, the video shows a car with no cage then shows a car running several sub 9.99 passes. At what track is this allowed?

[KevinB]

Originally Posted by ts87ttype

Again and to the point, the video shows a car with no cage then shows a car running several sub 9.99 passes. At what track is this allowed?

There's a track here in Cincinnati that allows that. I have been to a few others too.

[ts87ttype]

I'm living on the wrong coast! We have to pack around a few hundred pounds of cage to do that

[Limited87]

Its a little hole in the wall place called Summit Motorsports Park in Norwalk, Ohio. Same place the Buick race is put on by the Michigan chapter. You may have seen the NHRA tour stop there a couple months back also.

[ts87ttype]

All the tracks need to look into changing the requirements given the fact that there are stock cars running below 11.50. I just thought all NHRA tracks followed NHRA rules. Learn somethin new everday